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Kevins89notch

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For good lighting? The garage is 22 wide and 20 deep. I'm looking to pick up some fluorescent lighting. I found a business that's shutting down, and they have 8 foot, dual bulb units. I'm gonna see what kind of price I can get. Any idea on how many I should go for if I get a good price? 4, 6, 8, 10?
 
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I have four 4' double bulbs in my 20x20 garage. Ample light, but I want/need more. I'm thinking another 4 fixtures aimed more in between the cars. With that said, I would think 6 of those 8-footers would get the job done. Of course, there are people on here that will tell you that you'll need 64 of those fixtures. lol.
 

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10-4 on the 64 of these!!!! I am a firm believer that too much light is a myth, it just can't be done. But first you need to ask yourself, and then answer honestly, what exactly do you intend to do in said garage? If it is just for storage, one or two will probably do the trick. Anything more will require more light......... period.
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Sorry, I'm a car guy, so rebuilding a transmission is my next goal. I also need to fix an oil leak on one of my mustang's valve covers. Soon a clutch job will be in order, etc.
 

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10-4 on the 64 of these!!!! I am a firm believer that too much light is a myth, it just can't be done. But first you need to ask yourself, and then answer honestly, what exactly do you intend to do in said garage? If it is just for storage, one or two will probably do the trick. Anything more will require more light......... period.
Tim

It's the sad truth. I started with 2, then 4, and now I want 8. I don't know if there is such thing as too much light. I was actually trying to figure out if I could mount some on the wall to get light under the car. lol.
 

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I have attached a short version IES lighting table which gives recommended illumination levels for different activities. Actually, you can have too much light. It can cause eye strain when too bright. The good thing about fluorescent lights is that because they are linear they cause less shadowing and they are relatively inexpensive so it is easy to get a good level of light.


The recommendation for a repair area is 100fc, which would take 8 2lamp T12 std fixtures. In my experience that is usually more than what most people need/want for a residential garage and 60-70fc should work very well.

I ran your garage layout through a lighting calculator and got these results:

4 2lamp 8' T12 fixtures will get you about 56fc, 6 fixtures will get you about 80fc.

Hope this helps
 

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Kevin54

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For good lighting? The garage is 22 wide and 20 deep. I'm looking to pick up some fluorescent lighting. I found a business that's shutting down, and they have 8 foot, dual bulb units. I'm gonna see what kind of price I can get. Any idea on how many I should go for if I get a good price? 4, 6, 8, 10?

Buy 8 just for spare ballast if you get them cheap enough. 4-8' fixtures in a garage that size should be more than adequate. Two mounted end to end (16' long) on one side and two, end to end on the other side (16' long). I have 13- 4' fixtures in my garage spaced out evenly which givers me 52' of lighting. You would be looking at 12 more feet than that. My garage is 22x28' long. Before that, I had some incadescent fixtures that did not seem to put out too much light. I put one row of 8' fluorescents (16') and it was like daylight in there.
 

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as destroyer points out, your garage needs 100 foot candles to do repair work. AND , also take into account the reflectivity of the surfaces (walls, ceiling, floor).

by laying out a grid of 5' by 5'6" "boxes, you could mount 16' of strip centered on each of the 22' runs in the field, 5' between them (and 5' off the wall) thus using 6 fixtures. consider switching the center run separate from the flankers for ambient vs work lighting

what's a cubit?
 
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I would recommend to use 6 each 8' dual bulb fixtures and get two more as spares. Make sure the fixtures work on 120VAC not some other voltage.

Run two fixtures in a row with three rows. One row on the outside of each of the two vehicle spaces and one row between the vehicle spaces. Put each row on it's own switch.
 

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Try and see it. :)

If I and doing it myself that is my principle. but most of the time I ask my friend contractor for advice.
 

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I think I would run 3 rows 2 units long one in the center of the car bays and each other about 2' - 4' off each side wall. (depending on shelfs and benches). I would take two more units and hang them centered between the rows about 2' - 4' off the back wall. A couple extra for replacements would be a good idea if you are picking them up really cheap.


so I would think 8 to 10 would do you fine. Unless you have a basement in the house or something you may want more.
 

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The magic number is 1-2.

For general area lighting you will need at least 1 watt of lighting per square foot. This will be adequate light for cleaning and most tasks.
For more detailed work, 2 watts per square foot would be appropriate. Ceiling height also has to be taken into consideration, as does the reflectance of the interior surfaces.

Determining light levels, based on foot candles, typically is done by a computer program, operated by someone with experience in lighting requirements and specific lamp/fixture performance. Not something accurately done by an amateur. Frequently even the "experts" screw it up.

My recommendation is to plan for 2W in the area of the workbench, where you may be reading manuals or working on small parts such as carburetor jets, with 1W throughout the remainder of the space. Use supplemental portable lights if you require additional light in the remainder of the garage.

Plan for lighting patterns to overlap, minimizing shadows. 4 foot tubes are much easier to handle than 8 footers. Decide early on how important color rendition is for you. Some fluorescent fixture lamps really don't work for color sensitive projects.

Lighting costs, both to purchase as well as to operate. Correct lighting comes from proper planning, not simply adding as many fixtures as you can. Take your garage plan to a lighting rep or consultant and get a professional opinion. Typically they are happy to provide their input, no charge, especially if you are shopping with them.

American made products seem to have better ballasts and lamps will last and perform better.

Offered only as opinion
 
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I had 6 3 footer in my 24x30 evenly spaced now I add one more right above the truck I'm puting a motor in and I'm sure I'll add another right above the work bench and the welding table.
 

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I am not an electrician or engineer- but having head a shop for almost 50 yrs with a # of additons-I can tell you it is more about the placement than the size of the lights.
I would mount lights at angle where ceiling meets the wall ( \| 45*)- Probably one on each side- one in center-one in ft of each bay - one in rear of each bay - so 7 lights
If you mount light so that when you open hood or trunk they block the light it defeats the purpose
This is assuming a 2 bay garage and you did not mention work bench
 

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I belive if you are getting them for the right price it's hard to put too much light in. Just put them on more switches so you only run what you need in the area you need. YOu can always run the power feed of the switches to a master switch near the door so you can shut all of them off when your finished.


I do agree onewelder about placement being important. However wall space always seems a premium in a small garage so that is why I had recommended mounting them 2 -4 feet from the walls. I believe this still gives enough angle light bye being offset to work under a hood as to also give enough so your body and head do not block the light if you have a bench
 
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