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Is there a sealer (not a coating) that has any gloss?

hbus1300

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Is there a sealer on the market or one coming to market that has any gloss?

I've got it in my mind that a perfect solution for me would be a color dye/etch followed up with a sealer like ghostshield. The only problem i've seen is that the dye/etch doesn't look great without some sort of gloss over it.

I've got serious coating trust issues (real or imagined) so the sealer to me seems like the best solution, I just don't think a dye/sealer combo is going to look like I want.

Unless there's a miracle sealer I haven't found I'm either going with a dye/polyurea clear or just saying eff it and using a densifier/sealer combo on the bare concrete.

800 sq ft garage, will have things dragged across from time to time hence my concern with the coating. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Shea

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You have two choices when sealing a garage floor. You can use a penetrating sealer or topical (film forming) sealer.

Penetrating sealers penetrate into the concrete and form a sealed barrier at the subsurface that does not change the look of the concrete. Some may slightly darken the concrete, but that is it. Applying a penetrating sealer to stained or dyed concrete will not enhance the look, nor will it protect the stain very well.

Topical sealers form a sealed barrier on top of the concrete. This is what you need for concrete that has been treated with a dye or stain. The sealer wets out the color which makes it pop. It will also create a glossy surface which can also make the colors more vibrant.
 

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We have sealers (great over stains) that come in Matte, Satin and Gloss.
Stains look much better when coated topically.

They also need the protection.
 
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hbus1300

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Shea,

Thanks for providing some insight there.

If I want the dyed/stained look that allows me to refinish the topcoat which of these systems is best? While cost is not "no object" I don't want to do things that are unnecessary. My biggest concern is i'm getting a 4 post lift that has casters that I can roll it. I don't want to scratch the **** out of it if I need to roll that over to the adjacent bay

Systems I'm considering now
Dye or Stain then Clear Polyurea
Dye or Stain then Clear Epoxy then Clear urethane (Idea here is I can more easily refinish the urethane if something goes wrong)
 
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Shea

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If you will be getting any U.V. light on the floor, such as garage doors that are open for long periods of time, I would recommend the polyurea system since it is U.V. stable. Though urethane (polyurethane) is U.V. stable, it will not prevent the epoxy base underneath from eventually ambering. The process for refinishing the surface (adding another coat) is the same for both.

Just make sure your casters and the floor are clean before you start rolling the lift around and you should be fine. Grit on the surface of the floor or on the casters is the main culprit for abrasion and scratching.
 

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We've had a lot of success with Wolverine Coatings AcryliSeal 3501. Shoot me an Email and I'll forward you more info.
 

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We have had outstanding results by coating over stained floors with our clear SPGX coating. Protects the floor fantastic, easy to apply/ no mixing, and won't yellow. Gives a beautiful gloss too.
 
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