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Phillips and straight screw driver slips out. Drag link socket too thick. There must be a specific tool for this.
 
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Phillips and straight screw driver slips out. Drag link socket too thick. There must be a specific tool for this.
That looks like the one on my Hyundai. Put a short length of flat stock in a pair of vise grips. I just used a big screw driver. It should not be that tight. It is just plastic.

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Try a quarter.

It's deep into the radiator tank, quarter wont fit.

That looks like the one on my Hyundai. Put a short length of flat stock in a pair of vise grips. I just used a big screw driver. It should not be that tight. It is just plastic.

Sure, I can cobble together something but the head is almost gone even for that. It IS tight. Plus to loosen it out you have to press in hard so as not to strip out the head. Can't believe there isn't a specific tool made for this.
 

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I am thinking, if you can find a Philip screwdriver with the shank made like a cross, I would cut off the tip. Now you have the proper screwdriver. This is my opinion as I have the screwdriver but have not tried it as I don't need it. When I encounter this problem this will be my go to solution.
 

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I am thinking, if you can find a Philip screwdriver with the shank made like a cross, I would cut off the tip. Now you have the proper screwdriver. This is my opinion as I have the screwdriver but have not tried it as I don't need it. When I encounter this problem this will be my go to solution.
I can tell you from mine, it is a lot bigger that the widest part of a #2 phillips head but it might be worth a shot.

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It's deep into the radiator tank, quarter wont fit.



Sure, I can cobble together something but the head is almost gone even for that. It IS tight. Plus to loosen it out you have to press in hard so as not to strip out the head. Can't believe there isn't a specific tool made for this.
I don't think it is usually stuck that badly. I think the cross thread is just to give you two places to put a big flat blade screw driver. Mine was accessed through a hole in a cross brace.

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What about a Milwaukee ECX screwdriver or bit set?

Just google Milwaukee ECX and you'll see pics of the bit style..
They are made for the flat/Phillips combo screws on electrical boxes.

It's a flat "x" style tip. The smaller flats keep the large flat head from slipping off the screws.
 
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I guess I don't enjoy a scalding shower of antifreeze as much as you do.

I rarely open radiator drains anymore and many newer vehicles don't even have them anymore. What do you think happens when customers bring their cars to the shop for any repairs or maintenance that requires coolant draining? Nobody will drop their cars off anymore, they all want to wait on it and they start foot tapping and fussing if it takes more than 30 minutes. Their husband said it's just a thermostat and it's a 10 minute job...what's taking so long?

Pull the lower hose and be done.
 
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I rarely open radiator drains anymore and many newer vehicles don't even have them anymore.

That's because newer cars have 100,000-150,000 mile coolant changes. I'd rather have a drain pan under the plug and have the hot coolant come out cleanly than pull a hose that is often in a difficult to access location and hot coolant all over my arms and shirt with half of it spilling on the ground. Guess it's just me. I'm never in a hurry to do something quick, I'd rather do it right.
 
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I would just loosen the lower Rad hose. While removing it you could damage the it, and you may needing a new part or even a new radiator
 

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I'd rather have a drain pan under the plug and have the hot coolant come out cleanly than pull a hose that is often in a difficult to access location and hot coolant all over my arms and shirt with half of it spilling on the ground.

I don't think I have ever seen a radiator drain like you describe, it always ends up hitting something, then running down something else and coming out right next to the drain pan, then I move the drain pan and it comes out another spot just to the other side.
 
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If you could access it from above it wouldn't be too bad, but most of the time I have the car up on ramps and on my back on a creeper. To pull the lower hose off I'd pretty much have to pull it straight back while I'm right under it. Sure, I could maybe move to the side in just the last second, but that never works like you think it will.:willy_nil
 

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Reminds me of plastic plugs on pumps and sprayer parts, you try various screwdrivers and then end up using a Vise-grip to remove them.

Snap-on and other company's make 1/4" to 1/2" drive screwdriver bit sockets that would fit that slotted size.

Regarding Strouty's response, has anyone drained coolant in a shop and not got some on the floor?
 

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My 99 s10 has some nylon wingnut type thing for a drain and of course i spun the head right off it so i had to pop the lower radiator hose...stupid design. Why couldn't they put a bolt like my Toyota Corolla is? Draining the corolla is easy peasy


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I'm not sure why folks are mentioning hot coolant. We never messed with stuff like that on hot engines. I'm not going to burn myself for a customer nor did I expect my techs to do that..
 
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I'm not sure why folks are mentioning hot coolant. We never messed with stuff like that on hot engines. I'm not going to burn myself for a customer nor did I expect my techs to do that..

When you are doing a coolant flush you have to warm it up enough for the thermostat to open. Otherwise remove the thermostat, but that in itself is more trouble than it's worth when they are located deep inside the engine bay.
 

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I don't even mess with them anymore.If I can get to the block plug,that is where I drain it sometimes if it comes out.I do pull a hose as well
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frearson#Cross That double-slotted cross type is eithre a cross-sloted or a frearson, not a phillips or ecx

snap on makes some marine-plug screwdrivers that are large slotted types in 3/8 and 1/2 if those sizes correspond to your size...thicker than normal ones but not as thick as drag links. SO should work on double slotted head.

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Home > hand tools > general hand tools > screwdrivers > special application > marine plug screwdriver >Medium Marine Plug Red Screwdriver

if its a frearson/reed& prince, they make drivers and bits for that, too....
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http://www.instructables.com/id/When-a-Phillips-is-not-a-Phillips/
 
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Before you buy a $75 tool to take it off, get a new plug for $5.99 and plan ahead for a new radiaor for $175.
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Reminds me of plastic plugs on pumps and sprayer parts, you try various screwdrivers and then end up using a Vise-grip to remove them.

Snap-on and other company's make 1/4" to 1/2" drive screwdriver bit sockets that would fit that slotted size.

Regarding Strouty's response, has anyone drained coolant in a shop and not got some on the floor?



Yes, several times. With a collection of hoses, funnels, and a big drain pan, it can be done. Of course, I've also had a hot upper hose rupture in my face, which makes quite a mess.



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