Ktmrider83
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Is this the right tool for this fastener?
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ca90ss
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Looks like a mortorq.
Agreed. Many mfrs are going to them for seat mounting bolts. No idea why, anyone can buy the tools online.
redwrench60
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PelicanPines
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Don't have that bit... Damn... I hate manufacturers. Most likely will never need it but will file away the knowledge.. Thanks
four.cycle
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A long time ago, right after they invented dirt, the mechanic did the engineers's wife.
Ever since, the engineers have been getting even.
Ever since, the engineers have been getting even.
Many a time I wished I could slap the **** out of stupid engineers
Yup. Mortorq Superbit.
And to answer your question of why auto manufacturers do this ****??
Because **** you.
Does that bit actually work or does it cam out when loosening the bolt. Looks to me like they tried for a one time use thing. Once installed then fug off
four.cycle
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^ my first thought when I looked at the photo was the same thing and I was thinking "cut-off wheel".
Dick in Wisconsin
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You just can't make this **** up.
redwrench60
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Does that bit actually work or does it cam out when loosening the bolt. Looks to me like they tried for a one time use thing. Once installed then fug off
It actually works fine loosening. I use it on a 1/2” impact with a drive reducing adaptor to blast late model 4L60/70-E bellhousing to Case bolts out and haven’t had one slip yet like the previous Torx Plus bolts they used there. It does look like **** though.
Roberts210
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It's not the engineers fault--the bean-counters and the LAWYERS kill lots of good designs and dictate mediocrity.
kctyphoon
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My thought is it's suppose to deter people that shouldn't take seats out, from taking seats out.. safety concerns and what not..
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kctyphoon
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It also probably pisses off a lot a people that steal newer cars just to gut the seats out... manufacturers are doing more and more to try an keep people from messing with their products..
DC73
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Time for a revolution. I'm getting damn sick and tired of being inconvenienced in the name of crime control. Punishments just aren't harsh enough to be a deterrent.
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redwrench60
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We could add this one to the Tools I bought because of Garage Journal thread lol
It's not security. It's correct assembly. Mortorq supports higher torque loads than Torx plus does, and that reduces the chances of a bolt stripping. That reduces assembly costs (it costs a lot to take a car out of the line to drill it out.). Bits last longer, too. I think the fasteners are cheaper to make too, they require fewer machining steps. They can also have heavier rust resistant coatings.
What was wrong with the tried and true 6 sided hex bolt fastener?
HighPlainsWrencher
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Absolutely. Dont blame the engineers they are just doing what the accounting dept. told them to do.
454ragtop
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Snap On wouldn't subsidize the bolts manufacture unless they came up with a new design.
You can make a Mortorq(tm) fastener with a flush head. Can't do that with a hex head. Hex bolts aren't self centering, and can jam in the socket under high torque as well. They also don't carry as much torque as socket head screws can (almost any drive can out perform a hex head).
There are some other advantages (smaller heads means lighter weight). Stronger drive means higher strength screws can be used, which can be smaller saving weight, or you can use fewer of them (saves weight, and machining operations).
Mortorq is also supposed to have a lower radar profile than other screw heads, but I don't think that matters to seat bolts.
Coach James
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Come on now, don't try presenting facts. It must be those pointy head bean counters and spawn of Satan lawyers!
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