Italy Vs German :-)

[Filippo]

Hello everyone, I'm looking for tools for my garage to work on the bike, on my vespa. I like tools, Italian, German and here in Italy and beta usag are widespread.
I read a long time and I document on Stahlwille, Hazet, Gedore, do you think there is a difference in quality with the Italian brands?
I have several beta keys and some usag, but I also want a good set of socket and ratchet from 1.2 and 3.8.
thanks to whoever wants to answer me and advise me.
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[Hootbro]

If I had a choice between German and Italian made, it would be German hands down. Not to slam Italians but the German work ethic and drive for attention to detail and quality is a pinnacle standard for most of the world.

 

[nieuport17]

Same here. German over Italian tools.
For food, Italian over German hands down.

 

[BK13]

I dunno, Italian food every day would get old. Variety is the spice of life and all that. I'd are like to try out the various Italy brands, but mostly I like German stuff more.


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[motofool33]

i used beta tools when i worked in tialy only the higher line was nice, the lower line is china made quality.

the hazet stuff ive seen seems higher quality i didn't get to use much usag

 

[willhollin]

Be patriotic and buy tools made in your own country!

I would if I had the choice....

 

[sonvolt]

German tools all the way, no doubt

 

[oldtools]

German tools, Italian women.

 

[Filippo]

Ok I have decided that for the tools and for women will follow your advice
I have been a seller of tools that gave me the catalogs STAHLWILLE, Hazet, koken.
In particular showed me the set of half STAHLWILLE, Hazet, koken saying that as quality are equal.
I am undecided.
The vannditore showed me also a ratchet wrench with number 10 STAHLWILLE, beautiful.
What do you advise me friends?

 

[ctb]

Don't know much about Italian tools since I only own some Italian homeowner screwdrivers, but I'd advise that if you drive an Italian car to get the best tools that you can because you'll be using them a lot

 

[knobby]

At least when you order stuff from Germany it arrives....now the Italian postal system well the best of luck comes to mind

 

[BDT/NWMN]

Now I have a question....... This past winter, I bought a new ProTo long handle flex head 1/2 drive ratchet.. J5457F. It was one of the GJ promotion deals, and the price was great. Nice finish, nice to hold, I just smile every time I look at that thing.... There is no coo markings on the ratchet, but the plastic wrapper said "Made in Italy.".. So the question is, are ProTo tools common in Italy, and does ProTo fashion tools with the qualities of Italian women??

 

[willhollin]

Now I have a question....... This past winter, I bought a new ProTo long handle flex head 1/2 drive ratchet.. J5457F. It was one of the GJ promotion deals, and the price was great. Nice finish, nice to hold, I just smile every time I look at that thing.... There is no coo markings on the ratchet, but the plastic wrapper said "Made in Italy.".. So the question is, are ProTo tools common in Italy, and does ProTo fashion tools with the qualities of Italian women??

That's a Facom ratchet, most of which are made in Italy.

 

[FMC1959]

German tools are awesome, can't go wrong.

I don't see enough Italian mechanics tools, but in woodworking, here in Canada, many big workshops with industrial size woodworking shops have a fair amount of Italian machines. They have a great reputation. I also have many CMT and some Freud made in Italy router bits, also top notch workmanship.

if you are good with German, you have a lot of choice and great quality to choose from.. If being Italian, you would prefer to go with Italian tools, ask Monte and others on the "Tools from the old world", they have more exposure to the Italian made tools

 

[Filippo]

Thank you all guys ...
I wanted to know which ones are able to choose between the socket and the koken STAHLWILLE, or Hazet-)

 

[Monte]

Thank you all guys ...
I wanted to know which ones are able to choose between the socket and the koken STAHLWILLE, or Hazet-)

If you have a chance take a look at them in a store or order one socket/wrench from each manufacturer and see/feel how you like them.

 

[OctoMan]

German beer, now that's a no brainer!

 

[Dave455]

Italian tools are fine. Not quite 'top end', but pretty good. The problem is finding them! As regards socket wrenches and handles, the 'mid range' Beta is Italian made and seems to be fine. Their top end all steel tools are made in Japan by KoKen, (which are great, but you might as well buy KoKen and cut out the middle man) and the cheapest 'Beta easy' could be Taiwanese or Chinese - I couldn't say but wouldn't bother buying them!

I have some Facom wrenches that were made in Italy by USAG. They are quite nice, and have lasted well!

Being realistic, the top German manufacturers have the edge here, and you don't need to play detective to determine exactly what 'grade' you are getting! I love Stahlwille. It's superb to use and mega durable. Hazet is different, but just as tough.

I'd prefer either to Beta!

 

[Jim C.]

I dunno, Italian food every day would get old.....

Hardly. Having grown up in a first generation Italian household where everything was made from scratch (bread, pasta, sausage/salami, sauce, wine, etc.), grown in the backyard (tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, zucchini, grapes, figs, etc.), and bought fresh from the butcher (not the grocery store... the butcher shop) everyday, I'd have to completely disagree with you. If you're talking about Olive Garden food, Ragu from a jar, and factory made pasta from a box, then you're probably correct....

As for tools, I'd probably go with the German made stuff.

Jim C.

 

[Bigplum]

Italian food mmmmm , there was a Italian language program English TV awhile ago
Big old Italian woman making a family feast , now she was rather a plain (F ugly) old lady but the food , I'd marry her in a heartbeat !

I like Beta tools , toolboxes are nice too, just go and buy what feels or suits you best , mix and match , there are no rules in my toolboxes apart from no sh*ty cheap stuff

 

[WVBrady]

...The vannditore showed me also a ratchet wrench?

I think that you misspelled venditore, but your English is excellant.

 

[swissguy]

German (or Swiss) Tools; Italian Girls!
https://www.facebook.com/Italian.Girls

 

[BK13]

Hardly. Having grown up in a first generation Italian household where everything was made from scratch (bread, pasta, sausage/salami, sauce, wine, etc.), grown in the backyard (tomatoes, peppers, eggplants, zucchini, grapes, figs, etc.), and bought fresh from the butcher (not the grocery store... the butcher shop) everyday, I'd have to completely disagree with you. If you're talking about Olive Garden food, Ragu from a jar, and factory made pasta from a box, then you're probably correct....



As for tools, I'd probably go with the German made stuff.



Jim C.

Now you're just making me hungry!


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[spoon671]

German tools, Italian women.

Agreed.

 

[Monte]

German tools, Italian women.

and italian cars (at least Lambo + Ferrari )

 

[Filippo]

guys are great, thanks for the advice, I decided to tools and Germans agree with the great Italian food!
Monte, lamborgini, ferrari, maserati ... fantastic car, but also my VW Golf 1.6 2003 does its dirty work ehehehe
I will keep you updated on my purchases!

 

[oldtools]

and italian cars (at least Lambo + Ferrari )

Fine Italian women are like fine Italian cars. They are very expensive to maintain.