J H Williams Mammoth Complete tool set.. worth it?

[fasteddie313]

say if you were a career mechanic, and you got all of your tools stolen, or you wanted to stock your bisiness with tools, and it was within your budget, would it be a wise decision in any way to buy something like this?

http://www.snaponindustrialbrands.com/Cat-20-1-26/mammoth-tool-sets.htm

I see it online for about $21,000..

is there any bulk discount on something like this verses buying it all separately?

would it be worth it to not have the hassle of needing and getting things you don't have? like if you were to build a set up over time?

if this one isn't quite the best deal as far as a mostly complete tool set of unquestionable quality then witch would you recommend?

or is there just plain no substitute to buying what you need along the way?

just curious..

you know, tools are something I expect to be serviceable twice as long as I am, for the most part, atleast there warranty and quality..

would I regret it if I got something like this on payments for like the next 10 years, used it for the next 50 years, and passed it on to someone that appreciated it?

I see getting the best bang for the buck on something like this means the more years I spend with it the better deal I got, so if I got them now on payments it would be like getting a better deal look at that justification..

ha ha, yeah right...

just hypothetical..... I think...

it might be worth more in 50 years than it is brand new right now with everything going to china like it is...

 

[ADSR]

Doesn't a tech student pay like half price?

 

[ihateminimumwage]

That is a pretty insane amount of tools.

In 10 years of working on all kinds of stuff, I've still never needed the 16 Hammers, 63 pliers, or 41 gear pullers in that set. As well as 312 wrenches, 187 impact sockets (and I have 1/4"-3/4" drive), or 417 regular sockets.

I wonder which of it is USA and which is Taiwan.

 

[fasteddie313]

http://www.industrialsupplydenver.com/wi352pimamas.html

or maybe something like this??

and im not a tech student but taking a class or two to get the deal is a great idea..

wonder if you could get the deal taking a machining class? hmm

in all reality im not going to buy something like that, I already have far to great of a collection to need half of that stuff...

just curious, thinking, and wanted an opinion or two..

 

[ADSR]

http://www.industrialsupplydenver.com/wi352pimamas.html

or maybe something like this??

and im not a tech student but taking a class or two to get the deal is a great idea..

wonder if you could get the deal taking a machining class? hmm

in all reality im not going to buy something like that, I already have far to great of a collection to need half of that stuff...

just curious, thinking, and wanted an opinion or two..

Stick around for the "hot deals" here and build your collection up slow. You'll be way ahead in the end.

 

[Danglerb]

No, not something I think I would ever do, rich or poor, its a waste in my HO.

Stuff like that exists for people with too much money and not enough knowledge. What's your most expensive set, two please.

 

[Thegratenate]

Those sets are going to be bought by companies in order to tool up a new hire they poached from another company. The only scenario I can think of an individual buying a set like that would be if they were changing jobs, tools like that are required at the new job and had been supplied at the old job. Industrial companies do supply a lot of tools, and I doubt they pay retail when they submit a PO for a pallet or more of tools

 

[rsanter]

No, not something I think I would ever do, rich or poor, its a waste in my HO.

Stuff like that exists for people with too much money and not enough knowledge. What's your most expensive set, two please.

Typically those sets are bought by companies. Managers make the decision and it easier for them to buy a set than figure out all the separate tools that will be needed.
Also the sets like that are generally leased and written off.
Or,they are bought on capital and depreciated

Bob

 

[Fcvapor05]

I can also tell you straight up- I work for a very large industrial firm and we spend 7 figures yearly with snap-on- we have ordered large sets like that before, for applications like creating gang boxes for manufacturing floors. The price we pay for a set like that is much, much, much less than what's listed. Granted that's on a high volume industrial account.

 

[franzdom]

Generally Snap-On sets are no discount, exactly the same price as ordering all that stuff separately.

No way you can generally justify buying it on credit.

There will definitely be other things you will need, don't you think?

 

[IFMJohn]

When I bought my master diesel power set (much much cheaper than that) through the student program, we got 3% off of our normal price. I broke up the set and lost the 3% discount.

 

[ttpete]

I was the buyer for the shops in my department at my company. There are various levels of pricing depending on the amount of business done over time. As one of the big 3, we did a large amount of business with SO, and probably paid 50% off retail price. Anyone who worked in our shops could buy tools for their own use through the SO rep for wholesale price less 25%.

 

[d.mcfarland]

In the company's defense, it seems like almost every dam tool is there. It really does seem "complete".

 

[Garage Junky]

No, not something I think I would ever do, rich or poor, its a waste in my HO.

Stuff like that exists for people with too much money and not enough knowledge. What's your most expensive set, two please.

+1, i know a guy like this. Has the best garage in town, never even changed a windshield wiper in it.

 

[AndrewV]

Not a chance in hell.
Could build up your own set, with what you would need for half that. Let a lone pick and choose pieces.
This may be blastphame, but S-O doesn't make the best of everything. Either does Mac, Matco, Cornwell and who ever for that matter.

 

[sberry]

I bought a master set back in the day but it was Sears. If you got to make payments the next 10 yrs its not worth it.

 

[Outlawmws]

You know, I don't think I've got 21K invested in every single tool I own.... (Including power tools)

 

[cheechi]

You know, I don't think I've got 21K invested in every single tool I own.... (Including power tools)

This is the first thing I thought of when I read this thread. Then I thought, best keep that to myself because it will become a challenge. And we might not like the results... what if you did have that much?

 

[IFMJohn]

This is the first thing I thought of when I read this thread. Then I thought, best keep that to myself because it will become a challenge. And we might not like the results... what if you did have that much?

Most journeyman auto technicians that I talk to have at least 50k in tools. Some I know have over 150k in tools.

 

[Outlawmws]

This is the first thing I thought of when I read this thread. Then I thought, best keep that to myself because it will become a challenge. And we might not like the results... what if you did have that much?

Most journeyman auto technicians that I talk to have at least 50k in tools. Some I know have over 150k in tools.

Replacement value I'm definitely over 21K, I'm not done inventorying (been doing that off and on for 3-4 years) and replacement value est. stands at near $190K and will definitely go over 200 if I ever complete the dang inventory. My estimate of what I've spent is at a bit over 16.5 K

 

[Zeroek]

Takes the fun out of buying tools here and there for your set. Now if you were going to supply a shop with tools and had the money sure but not that mammoth set.

 

[cheechi]

Replacement value I'm definitely over 21K... My estimate of what I've spent is at a bit over 16.5 K

See that's what I meant, what I've spent vs replacement value is a huge gap. Hot deals section here has definitely helped with that quite a bit.

Just like the one member's signature he hopes his wife doesn't sell his tools for what he says they cost.

 

[woody 73]

That is one very nice set of tools, it took me forever or so it seems to build up a set of tools from just about every company out there. I must say if someone has the money and not the time to build up a set then more power to them.

 

[Advan]

Most journeyman auto technicians that I talk to have at least 50k in tools. Some I know have over 150k in tools.

That ridiculous. Do they need to supply their own hoist, air compressor, and electricity supply FFS?

 

[cheechi]

Ridiculous is overstating it a bit. If you get specialty tools when they first become available, you can add it up really quick. I'm sure some guys that have their own shop are going to include their air, lifts, etc with it. Others might include their box and everything in it. Some might just include what fits in the box.

FFS.

 

[AndrewV]

Some are adding boxes, and scanners. The set is only hand tools. Not front end serv. kits, scanners, specialty sockets(oil press. switch, ect...), and so on.
So account for chromes, nonimpact torx, wrenches, impact sockets,and the insane hammer set with this set.

 

[OutsideMachinist]

I don't think any of those ''complete'', ''master'' , or ''pro'' whatever sets are worth it regardless of the brand.

 

[IFMJohn]

That ridiculous. Do they need to supply their own hoist, air compressor, and electricity supply FFS?

Look at some of their $20k+ boxes, full then with tools, add scanners, an oscilloscope, specialty tools, etc etc. It gets up there fast.

 

[AndrewV]

Yeah, but the cost of this set doesn't have x $4-$6k scanners(i have a $200 mac one, and rest are shop supplied). And has a $2k box, with top. Diffrent situation on op's post.