jacking up newer car ?

[hmardown]

hope i'm in the right forum.

I'm looking for a way to use my floor jack or bottle jack to lift a mustang. these newer cars have pinch welds you're suppose to lift up on. and by the way the car came with no spare or jack. anyway, I need something to adapt to jack pad that will have a wider grip on the pinch weld. maybe somebody on here came up with something they'll share ? or where's a good place to buy what I need ? there's stuff online, but I much ratter buy something I can inspect first. I couldn't find anything online when I searched harbor freight.
thanks, hmardown

 

[Stuart in MN]

If you do a google search on 'mustang pinch weld jack pad' a bunch of stuff turns up. There's this style: https://lmr.com/item/LRS-01002001/mustang-magpad-jack-pad And then there are a lot of rubber pads like this: https://www.ebay.com/p/1pcs-Cross-F...and-Jackpad/811247865?iid=163065399395&chn=ps

If it were me I'd simply buy a couple hockey pucks, saw some grooves in them, and call it done.

 

[fao110]

If you do a google search on 'mustang pinch weld jack pad' a bunch of stuff turns up. There's this style: https://lmr.com/item/LRS-01002001/mustang-magpad-jack-pad And then there are a lot of rubber pads like this: https://www.ebay.com/p/1pcs-Cross-F...and-Jackpad/811247865?iid=163065399395&chn=ps

If it were me I'd simply buy a couple hockey pucks, saw some grooves in them, and call it done.

No jack. Is this something new?

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[Locker537]

While you can lift on the pinch weld, there USUALLY are other safe locations to support the car as well. Have you checked the owner's manual for this specific car?

 

[bonneyman]

No jack. Is this something new?

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Yep. Car makers replaced real spares with those stupid tiny donuts years ago, and along with that came the chinzy scissor jacks.
Now they've eliminated the spare tire and jacks entirely - saves space, weight, and costs, and nobody wants to get dirty anymore. Everyone "supposedly" has AAA and just calls them for help when they have a flat.

 

[CJM8515]

They have little crappy air compressors and tire slime if your lucky now


Me Id put it on the pinch weld, but I have a pro type floor jack with a wide pad similar to the HF ones.

 

[AA/FC]

these newer cars have pinch welds you're suppose to lift up on.

Pinch welds on the bottom of car bodies have been around for many decades..... and cars have been jacked up via pinch welds ever since.

 

[AA/FC]

Everyone "supposedly" has AAA and just calls them for help when they have a flat.

I would say the majority of the population in the US has some sort of Roadside Assistance or motorclub coverage. Either through their automotive manufacturer warranty, through their full coverage insurance policy, through their credit card company, or even through their cell phone plan. Some people even just flat-out pay for AAA every year. However, tow truck drivers generally do not perform roadside tire repair.... they change tires. Tow trucks also do not carry any spare tires. It would be impossible to carry a spare for every make and model of vehicle on the road. So basically, if you don't have a spare, the only choice is to have your vehicle towed to a tire repair shop. No way would I buy a new vehicle without a spare tire.

 

[decableguy2000]

Steeda jacking jails, looking at set for my 2016.

https://www.steeda.com/Steeda-S550-Mustang-Full-Length-Ultra-Lite-and-Low-Profile-Chassis-Jacking-Rails-2015-2019-Coupe_p_15941.html

 

[Jazzman442]

If it is not a Track pack Mustang you can get a Real tire and a jack to fit in the trunk.

I own a few Mustangs. Buy this or something like this:

https://themustangsource.com/forums/f726/new-premium-magnetic-jack-pad-review-533314/

 

[benny27]

this is the one I have for pinch welds
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1ID2KZ/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[WWheeler]

I just use a hard rubber jack pad with slots for the pinch welds

 

[AffableCurmudgeon]

I use hockey pucks with a groove cut in the middle. Fits on every floor jack.

 

[BroncoAZ]

I use hockey pucks with a groove cut in the middle. Fits on every floor jack.

A single hockey puck cost as much on Amazon as the purpose built jack pad.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVRV1NA/?tag=atomicindus08-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MA232WY/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Even in quantities of 4 there is only a couple buck difference.

 

[AffableCurmudgeon]

A single hockey puck cost as much on Amazon as the purpose built jack pad.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MVRV1NA/?tag=atomicindus08-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MA232WY/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Even in quantities of 4 there is only a couple buck difference.

Unless you live where I live, Chicagoland, where hockey is God’s game and you have a never ending supply of pucks for very limited money.

 

[Diy2fault]

You have to raise then support said car. Read the owners manual and or search the interweb for jacking points. If this is a front engine rear drive car there should be one or more substantial cross members in the engine area. These can be jack points but you need to verify. The pinch weld points could then be the place for a jack stand and a pad such as the hockey puck with a dado in it. Again you need to verify that. I have to drive a friends 2013 Oddysey up on 2 by material to get the jack under it.

 

[Y00PER]

Tried jacking up my minivan with the pinch weld using the supplied jack. Got the rear tire off the ground when the jack went through and down came the van... rust *****

 

[Nova231]

I've never used a "grooved" hockey puck but I've seen one that isn't altered split, so be careful using those.

 

[hmardown]

thanks for all the input guys. I know where all the jack points are. getting my floor jack where I want is a problem. the floor jack end won't fit where the pinch weld opening is. well not without crushing the plastic trim that runs under the doors.
Benny
that link you put up is one that I was looking at. I just need to see if it'll fit into the recess part. there's a lot of plastic trim that's close to the small opening. I'm going measure what will fit and do a search from there. they make plastic ones but I read where they are spreading out once weight is put on them.

now as far as the jack situation: I do have the performance package that comes with bigger wheels & tires. so the appropriate spare won't fit in the notched spare tire wheel well. let's not forget about the cost of that luxury. now they give you a little compressor so you can blow fix a flat in your tire. but get this, if you use it you need to replace the valve stem & the low air sensor . also you need a wheel that will clear the brembo brake calipers. there is a company now that's making a spare that will fit in the spare wheel well & clear the brembo brakes. I think they're north of $450-. thanks, hmardown

 

[ex-x-fire]

Some of these newer cars **** when it comes to putting them on a hoist, the front subframes are totally covered when sheets of plastic or fiberglass type panels.

 

[Wamsutta]

In my situation, the pinch weld is recessed up inside the rocker panel. The only jack that can access it is the onboard scissor jack. I need to figure out a way to use the pinch weld locations without destroying the rocker panels.

 

[Skin]

Tow points on the sub frame and frame areas where suspension components are connected are generally strong enough to lift on if its just a matter of keeping the pinch weld free for a jack stand.

 

[5ktq]

Yeah I typically jack on a suspension mounting point (on subframe or body, somewhere with beefy bolts) with a block of 1x3 or whatever

and then put the stand (also on a piece of wood) on the pinch weld

 

[Ole Slewfoot]

I use an oldfangled chunk of wood usually.

 

[BroncoAZ]

Chunks of wood split eventually and allow the car to shift, not good. I’d rather use hockey pucks than wood, but a proper rubber block or adapter is best.

 

[hmardown]

In my situation, the pinch weld is recessed up inside the rocker panel. The only jack that can access it is the onboard scissor jack. I need to figure out a way to use the pinch weld locations without destroying the rocker panels.

yeah exactly what I'm talking about. I'm going measure what'll fit in there and make some kind of spacer. Benny put a link up check that out. if it's small enough(not to wide) I'm going to go with that. also I'm going to check the depth. it would be nice to make contact on both sides of the pinch weld also. this would keep it from crushing the pinch weld over time & stop it from slipping off pinch weld. it shouldn't be hard to make up a couple of these U type spacers to surround the pinch weld. I'll let you know how i make out when i get to it.
hmardown

 

[MikeF2316]

My dad built 4 of these for his Infiniti G35. A chunk of wood, a groove, some red paint and a couple of magnets so they stick to the car in exactly the right place.

 

[tym]

While you can lift on the pinch weld, there USUALLY are other safe locations to support the car as well. Have you checked the owner's manual for this specific car?

My stealership "lifted on the pinch weld" of my 2013 Mustang and managed to peel one layer of steel away from the other, essentially ruining the pinch weld in that area.

They made a ham-fisted attempt to fix it after I raised holy hell.

I use a block of wood just inboard of the pinch weld and a standard floor jack. Works like a charm and doesn't deform the pinch weld.

Failing that, a hockey puck with a groove in it would work too.

 

[Tonyuk]

Depending on the design most unibody cars can be lifted by 4 spots on the lower pinch weld, usually a few inches back from each wheel arch. Not every bit of the pinch weld should be jacked on however since it can bend quite easily, especially with a heavier vehicle.

You can also find jacking points further in designed to be used with a lift, usually with some kind of manufacturers attachment.

The plastic undercovers that run along the pinch weld and the majority of the car are there to cut down on noise and improve airflow to reduce fuel consumption, if you want to jack on a point underneath them your going to have to take them off of they'll be damaged. Not an issue for us as we use the lift arms with a pad on the pinch weld and then take them off with the car in the air. The suspension can be used to lift the car but be careful where you put the jack. We've had a load of cars in over the years with sheared suspension arms because some idiot put the jack in the centre of one of them to lift the car.

 

[mr.lemons]

Newer cars? Been in a fuzzy daze since the 60s?


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