Jaguar landrover tools

[toolman101]

Hi everyone,

Got a job at a jaguar land rover dealer and was hoping if there are any specific tools i need to work on them,

thanks

toolman

 

[malykaii]

Hammer. Big hammer.

Honestly, if you don't know, then your not a Jaguar specialist. In turn they will start you off with things like brake pads and work you up. Buy the tools they tell you to get and the tools you find out you need.

I had a buddy who's an Audi specialist. Couldn't find a relevant job anywhere so he went to a Chrystler dealership. Despite being an A tech he started from the bottom. Soon enough they had him start doing a lot of diff rebuilds. He owns no tools for that and has no prior knowledge, yet they think he's good at the task and they are training him.

 

[toolman101]

Hammer. Big hammer.

Honestly, if you don't know, then your not a Jaguar specialist. In turn they will start you off with things like brake pads and work you up. Buy the tools they tell you to get and the tools you find out you need.

I had a buddy who's an Audi specialist. Couldn't find a relevant job anywhere so he went to a Chrystler dealership. Despite being an A tech he started from the bottom. Soon enough they had him start doing a lot of diff rebuilds. He owns no tools for that and has no prior knowledge, yet they think he's good at the task and they are training him.

cheers mate they are gonna train me to, just wondering if i needed anything specific

 

[malykaii]

Buy some British standard whitworth wrenches. You'll get an A for effort lol.

 

[Justanoldguy]

And plenty of rags to wipe up the leaky oil under every car.

 

[K-Dog]

Body wise lots of torx stuff. Triple square stuff too.
If you dont have a set of long torx drivers, get some.

 

[RedRabbit]

Am I the only mech that likes to work on Jags?

 

[K-Dog]

Am I the only mech that likes to work on Jags?

I think so...

 

[OHMS LAW]

Yea even the Lincoln LS masquerading as a 3.0 xtype

 

[Scott r c]

And plenty of rags to wipe up the leaky oil under every car.

This, plus a AAA membership.

 

[malykaii]

Yea even the Lincoln LS masquerading as a 3.0 xtype

Eh, not exactly. Its more jaguar than ford. The suspension is clearly Jaguar. The stick is getrag and auto is ZF, both euro brands that jaguar buy a from, but not ford. The v8 engine is a jaguar engine. The v6 is a ford block with jaguar heads. A v8 Lincoln LS is basically a jaguar under cover.

However, the x type is a mondeo running a ford focus trans modified to take a transfer case. I forgot who designed the t case. The suspension is ford designed. The motor is again ford block with jag heads. That, is totally a ford pretending to be upscale.

I had plenty of x, s, and ls customers at my last job. All decent to work on. However, the xj and range rover were something else. Kind of hard to fix something no,ones trained you on.

 

[RedRabbit]

I think so...

Yea I'll agree on that.

 

[OHMS LAW]

Most jags I see are worn out on the fourth owners and are ready to give up the ghost. We changed the motor in one and the customer only paid half up front. So the transfer case will be connected once he pays up

 

[Dimitri]

Soon enough they had him start doing a lot of diff rebuilds. He owns no tools for that and has no prior knowledge, yet they think he's good at the task and they are training him.

No body wants to do Differential rebuilds unless they absolutely have to as a Chrysler Tech.

As for tools, other then basic hand tools and a 1/4" drive beam torque wrench, everything is mandatory special tools the dealerships must have. So you don't need anything special.

Dimitri

 

[malykaii]

Most jags I see are worn out on the fourth owners and are ready to give up the ghost. We changed the motor in one and the customer only paid half up front. So the transfer case will be connected once he pays up

I agree. Cars like that need to be maintained well. Once they fall into disrepair it can get costly to get them back out of beater status.

Fortunatly op won't be working on those.

The lady and I are considering the x type as an extra car. Very hard to find a decent one. Saw one with 50k miles, and it sold before I could even go see it. Otherwise, all four owner beaters,

 

[merbie]

I used to work at a jaguar specialist before moving to the classic car trade, iv worked on all years of jags, s types suffer from terrible electrical problems due to faulty looms on the bumper, removing a side light involves removing the bumper pretty much, as for tools, get some good bolts extractors, and a torx t47 for the wheel wells, also get a real good dmm you won't regret this one, there's also some speciality sockets but the dealership will have them I would have thought, also on the new xf's the caliper bolt is a 9mm hex bit, buy the gold snap on socket in 3/8 you will need it, also on the aluminium bodied cars they suffer from earthing problems due to the bolts holding the wires to ground breaking in the inner wheel wells, so if one half of the cars electrical fail that will most likely be it, also rust! Lots of it and get used to it, the x type suffers really bad also on the subject of the x type diesels the injectors go all the time! Also get to know your air con systems they always leak on jags, also on s types doing the spark plugs is a real pain the the *** on the v6 and 8 models so have a good array of extensions and be really careful tightening them down, Also jaguar love to thread steel bolts into aluminium so watch out for stuck bolts, other than that have fun shoot me a pm if you want any more information good luck!


Merb

 

[Brunel]

However, the x type is a mondeo running a ford focus trans modified to take a transfer case. I forgot who designed the t case. The suspension is ford designed. The motor is again ford block with jag heads. That, is totally a ford pretending to be upscale.

I drive a Mk3 Mondeo. A couple of weeks ago I was at a tyre dealer getting a puncture (flat in americanese) fixed. A guy pulled up in a Jaguar that he'd just bought. We got talking and he let me open the bonnet (hood) on his Jag, and I opened mine as well. He was amazed to see the exact same 2 litre diesel engine in both cars. And yes, the injectors don't have the best reputation on Ford either.

The rear wheel bearings failed on mine and the same part (made by SKF) is used on Jaguars as well.

The Mondeo chassis handles very well and it's no surprise that they use it in on a Jaguar.

 

[Justanoldguy]

They have a chassis?

 

[malykaii]

Everything I said/know about x and s types pertains to the US market. For example, the reference to a focus transmission comes from the fact that the US model x type in stick comes with a variant of the mtx75 transmission bolted to the only available engines, a 2.5 and 3.0

Regarding the non awd and diesel x types, no idea. Kind of jealous you guys over there get that.

 

[ZRX61]

First job out of HS was as an apprentice at a Jag dealer, years later I spent two years working on Land Rovers.
You will need Standard, Metric AND Whitworth... often on the same vehicle, sometimes even on the same part....

The most important thing you're going to need is a sense of humor...& the aforementioned BFH.

 

[Adam.C]

I currently drive a Land Rover LR3 "discovery" and it's one of the best cars I've ever owned. It's reliable, easy to work on (with a few quirks). I dont believe the newer models have whitworth fasteners in them, as the new discos were designed by Ford.

My cars engine is a jag 2.7 diesel v6. It has belts on both ends.so a couple recommendations from me, by NO MEANS an expert on these cars:

Gold Snap On torx bit sockets. Also consider a swivel torx set, maybe long Torx sockets. I'd get some torx drivers as well.

Panel poppers (plastic pry-bars). Snap on makes a set. These are no better than cheaper sets I've seen (ok maybe a little bit better) but if you are a pro, you can get new as you break or tear up your snappies. Whole interior on a disco3/4 is held in with poppers. An expired bank or credit card is also helpful to separate trim, or use under a metal popper to prevent paint damage. Just be careful about any private information that may be on the card (so, use something like a bank card, but maybe not a bank card)

Discos are really trucks, and have some pretty serious hardware. Get yourself a really long ratchet like a SHLF80A. Brake caliper bolts have 21mm 12pt heads torqued to 300nm. You're gonna need at least a 1/2 drive set of 12pt (bi hex) sockets. I really like my cordless impact gun.

Pick up decent impact sockets when you can. Need 1/2 drive up to 27mm at least.

Long pry bars for checking suspension bushings.

Fuse buddy, power probe3. As mentioned, good DMM

Battery tester ( hopefully you can borrow) and battery terminal cleaner brush (These cars are a computer on wheels and are sensitive to battery power, clean grounds etc.)

Long ratcheting wrenches (for belt work) flex heads can be good. I have SO XDHLM and they kick ***. The blue point version is popular at the Land Rover dealer near me.

Don't listen to old Americans spew prejudice and misinformation about English cars. Their information is 30 years old. Modern jags and land rovers were warmed over by ford in the earlier 2000s. They are seriously good, high performing cars. The computer controlled actively managed air suspension on my disco is awesome. It's one of the most comfortable cars I've ever driven, and I've driven some great cars. Owners love these vehicles. Treat the owners and cars with respect and you'll be successful.

 

[Brunel]

They have a chassis?

You know what I mean

 

[Robbie UK]

As a former LR3 and now a current LR4 (Discovery 4 over here) I can testify that they are very good to work on with very good access to everything save the rear of the engine. Only takes around 2 hours and a 2-post lift to remove the entire body from the chassis and then the access is exceptional (!).

Everything is metric with lots of torx fasteners too. As already said, with over 20 ECUs and multiple busses it really is a computer network on wheels; so get ready for SDD and perhaps an aftermarket diagnostic tool to fiddle with things that JLR locks-out from dealer level SDD.

 

[malykaii]

You will need Standard, Metric AND Whitworth... often on the same vehicle, sometimes even on the same part....

Whitworth? At the dealer? Dealers rarely take on classic cars. I would think that if they want you to use Whitworth wrenches once every other year for that random vintage piece, then they should provide it. Plus training, as how would you know how to service a car older than you when you spend half your days working with a scan tool.