JIS screwdriver recommendation

[greasegunn]

Looking for some recommendations for a decent set of JIS screwdrivers. These would be primarily for use on my cars. I’m a weekend mechanic type. Also what sizes would I need? – do they follow a similar numbering scheme like Phillips? Should I just buy singles and build what I need? Thanks.

 

[Tepid87]

Hi and welcome, great you are looking for JIS screwdrivers. It always good to have more tools
The sizing system is identical to Phillips. Starting at 000 to 4. The most common sizes on cars and motorcycles will be 1 and 2.
I would recommend to have a look at the site of Vessel. http://www.vesseltools.com/hand-tools/screwdrivers/view-all-products.html
I think a set with sizes 1, 2 and 3 will get you covered for 99%. Maybe some stubby ones in size 1 and 2 for use in tight places. The handle type is something of your favor.
The ball handles may look odd by they have great grip and good value for the price.

And most (but not all) JIS screws can be recognized by a little dimple on the head of the screw.

 

[flying eyeball]

These are pretty dang good for the $$

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272024585335?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[1foxracing]

These are pretty dang good for the $$

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272024585335?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Cheaper on Amazon and actually in stock.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003F63WI8/?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[Sine Swept]

I have the black Hozan set, seems to be of decent quality. They are exactly the same (looking) as my Thailand Vessel set, except that the quality of the handles seems better on the Hozans.

http://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/6-pc-screwdriver-set/A-p8606642e

 

[dnschmidt]

I sell TOPTUL screwdrivers and all of them meet the JIS standard (which doesn't actually exist anymore but has been included into the DIN 5260 and subsequent international standards). TOPTUL primarily services Japan and Asian markets so they have to work on JIS screws as that is what their customers primarily deal with. Here's the listing:http://www.ebay.com/itm/111850770987?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

I have 4" and 6" power bits that are JIS + ACR these I've never gotten up on EBay yet since I'm lazy. The TOPTUL part numbers for these are FSMB0802GM and FSMCO802GM
they come four to a package. I'll eventually sell these for $6 for the four and $7.50 for the six inch packages. Maybe I'll get off of my dead *** today and actually list these today. Thanks for the inspiration.

 

[cjn1014]

Vessel Megadora

 

[wyo george]

I do a lot of work on motorcycles and my Hozan set gets a ton of use and has held up very well.


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[kelpaso1]

I sell TOPTUL screwdrivers and all of them meet the JIS standard (which doesn't actually exist anymore but has been included into the DIN 5260 and subsequent international standards). TOPTUL primarily services Japan and Asian markets so they have to work on JIS screws as that is what their customers primarily deal with. Here's the listing:http://www.ebay.com/itm/111850770987?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

I have 4" and 6" power bits that are JIS + ACR these I've never gotten up on EBay yet since I'm lazy. The TOPTUL part numbers for these are FSMB0802GM and FSMCO802GM
they come four to a package. I'll eventually sell these for $6 for the four and $7.50 for the six inch packages. Maybe I'll get off of my dead *** today and actually list these today. Thanks for the inspiration.

Which would explain why you don't ship to Canada?? WTF?
What is with people who sell RETAIL but won't ship outside THEIR country. Why the F bother then? Just loosing out on millions of potential customers

 

[Rogue1987]

Vessel Megadora

I've got one in each shop. They are awesome.

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[redvalkyrie]

Believe it or not, Canada is hell to ship to. I once had a box of DigiBetas (think oversize VHS tapes) get held up in customs because there was no way for Canadian customs to verify that the tapes belonged to ESPN and had horse racing one them. I had to go to the border with a DigiBeta play deck and show them. Apparently, **** tapes are a serious issues for those guys.

 

[iScream]

I sell TOPTUL screwdrivers and all of them meet the JIS standard (which doesn't actually exist anymore but has been included into the DIN 5260 and subsequent international standards). TOPTUL primarily services Japan and Asian markets so they have to work on JIS screws as that is what their customers primarily deal with. Here's the listing:http://www.ebay.com/itm/111850770987?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

I have 4" and 6" power bits that are JIS + ACR these I've never gotten up on EBay yet since I'm lazy. The TOPTUL part numbers for these are FSMB0802GM and FSMCO802GM
they come four to a package. I'll eventually sell these for $6 for the four and $7.50 for the six inch packages. Maybe I'll get off of my dead *** today and actually list these today. Thanks for the inspiration.

Listen to this guy. You don't need to pay a premium for drivers that specifically say JIS.

 

[404]

Which would explain why you don't ship to Canada?? WTF?
What is with people who sell RETAIL but won't ship outside THEIR country. Why the F bother then? Just loosing out on millions of potential customers

You sound like a customer any vendor would cherish.

 

[kelpaso1]

Believe it or not, Canada is hell to ship to. I once had a box of DigiBetas (think oversize VHS tapes) get held up in customs because there was no way for Canadian customs to verify that the tapes belonged to ESPN and had horse racing one them. I had to go to the border with a DigiBeta play deck and show them. Apparently, **** tapes are a serious issues for those guys.

LOL. Ok but that is quite a different situation. But tools?? I don't see it being any more of a hassle to ship out of country. Might cost the buyer more for shipping, duty etc, but if I can't get something from a Canadian retailer then I have to shop US, UK, China, whatever. Thousands of retailers ship out of country, and those that do not, well, they ain't getting MY money are they?

 

[kelpaso1]

You sound like a customer any vendor would cherish.

Bullshite! My money not good nuff? I was actually looking to buy some of these drivers and I would have bought some from him but I guess that dude won't see any of MY cash.

 

[Rory Bellows]

Which would explain why you don't ship to Canada?? WTF?
What is with people who sell RETAIL but won't ship outside THEIR country. Why the F bother then? Just loosing out on millions of potential customers

Shipping to Canada is more burdensome than shipping to almost all other countries. I used to sell a lot on eBay. I've shipped things all over the world. Without a doubt Canada was the worst place to have to ship anything.

 

[John T]

Listen to this guy. You don't need to pay a premium for drivers that specifically say JIS.

Or touch the end of a phillips to yer bench grinder wheel...



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[knobby]

Which would explain why you don't ship to Canada?? WTF?
What is with people who sell RETAIL but won't ship outside THEIR country. Why the F bother then? Just loosing out on millions of potential customers

If you are looking for some JIS screwdrivers and not just ranting about some vendors shipping policy these folke have some vessel screwdrivers on clearance for a very reasonable price. JS.

http://www.princessauto.com/en/

http://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/7-pc-screwdriver-set/A-p8606626e

http://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/6-pc-impact-screwdriver-set/A-p8606592e

http://www.princessauto.com/en/detail/6-pc-screwdriver-set/A-p8606642e

 

[kelpaso1]

Shipping to Canada is more burdensome than shipping to almost all other countries. I used to sell a lot on eBay. I've shipped things all over the world. Without a doubt Canada was the worst place to have to ship anything.

Ok maybe I'm a bit misinformed? Why is it more of a hassle to ship here? Don't you just take the package to the post office or shipper, pay them for the shipping and charge me? I don't see what the big deal is. Ya it costs ME more but that's my problem isn't it?

 

[dede2897234]

Vessel Megadora

I too share the same enthusiasm for the Vessel Megadora drivers. I own some myself! Vessel packages a set of Megadora stubby and regular length drivers (Phillips and slotted tips); and includes an Impacta driver. It calls it the Megadora 8pc Japanese Motorcycle & ATV Repair Set. webBikeWorld wrote up a review on this set here: web article.

There are 2 vendors that sell this set: one from eBay precisionproworks and another named Phone Tech Supply. The eBay seller has a 100% feedback rating. He also sells other Japanese hand tools that are worth looking at including the Vessel Impacta P2 driver here: precisionproworks other Japanese tools offers.

Phone Tech Supply used to sell on eBay and had a 100% feedback rating. I would not hesitate to buy from them.


Good luck,

Dave

 

[rice rocket]

I have the Vessel ball drivers and the Megadoras, I don't get the whole balldriver ergonomics. It just introduces hand cramps for me.

Megadoras all the way.

 

[Rory Bellows]

Ok maybe I'm a bit misinformed? Why is it more of a hassle to ship here? Don't you just take the package to the post office or shipper, pay them for the shipping and charge me? I don't see what the big deal is. Ya it costs ME more but that's my problem isn't it?

First of all you must use USPS. UPS costs ridiculous $$$ to ship to Canada plus exorbitant fees additionally to ship cost. People routinely refuse packages because of the excessive fees. Zero tracking once it crosses the border. Packages routinely disappear in customs with no recourse. Packages get lost with zero recourse. Excessive ship times. Forms, forms, forms. Appears the Canadian postal service is backwards compared to everyone else in the known world.

I have successfully shipped to Japan, Australia, Italy, France, Spain, Brazil, Portugal all with zero issues. Every time I shipped to Canada I had issues. Therefore I preferred not to ship to Canada when I was selling a lot on eBay. I am not alone in this experience. That is why people refuse to deal with Canada all together. It is a pain and lots of time you end up losing money on a sale because of the way shipping in Canada is handled.

 

[biowrench]

I have the Vessel ball drivers and the Megadoras, I don't get the whole balldriver ergonomics. It just introduces hand cramps for me.

Megadoras all the way.

Any Vessel. Though Sunflag 888s are also amazing.

Didn't get the ball drivers either, until we screwed a bunch of 1/8" x 1' x 8' steel panels to the ceiling with drywall screws. I know... not my call, ok? Couldn't trust the 18V driver with the final seating, no clutch setting would serve, so we did the last bit by hand. And shoulder.

 

[Grant Gunderson]

Believe it or not, Canada is hell to ship to. I once had a box of DigiBetas (think oversize VHS tapes) get held up in customs because there was no way for Canadian customs to verify that the tapes belonged to ESPN and had horse racing one them. I had to go to the border with a DigiBeta play deck and show them. Apparently, **** tapes are a serious issues for those guys.

Those over paid desk jockeys just wanted to watch what they hoped was ****.

 

[404]

Bullshite! My money not good nuff? I was actually looking to buy some of these drivers and I would have bought some from him but I guess that dude won't see any of MY cash.

You already sound like a pain in the *** to deal with. If you were buying millions then it might be worth the hassle. For some screwdrivers where the profit might be 50 dollars US it is sooo not worth it.

 

[kblee27]

DIN5260 supercede JIS.

So I presume buying a DIN5260 screwdriver is better than anything as it can also drive JIS and phillips without damaging the screw.

It's strange that I don't see many advertising screwdrivers as DIN5260 or why would any manufacturers wants to make the "old" phillips anymore.

 

[greasegunn]

Or touch the end of a phillips to yer bench grinder wheel...



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How much do you need to grind off? Have you done it? I could give it a try on a freebie HF set.

 

[John T]

How much do you need to grind off? Have you done it? I could give it a try on a freebie HF set.

I did it one day working on an old KZ1000 ..... (after stripping a couple screws) You just grind the tip off so it doesn't bottom out. ( probably about 1mm)

I was in the middle of something, and didn't feel like running out to the tool store...

It's probably smarter to buy the proper bit ahead of time.

But all that said, I still have that modified snap on phillips in my drawer...

 

[rlitman]

DIN5260 supercede JIS.

So I presume buying a DIN5260 screwdriver is better than anything as it can also drive JIS and phillips without damaging the screw.

It's strange that I don't see many advertising screwdrivers as DIN5260 or why would any manufacturers wants to make the "old" phillips anymore.

DIN5260-PH is dimensionally identical to JIS (though tolerances may have changed). Both are compatible in the same way with both JIS and Philips screws. There is no difference to the end user between these standards. It was just essentially renamed, so no, one is not "better" than the other.

As for Philips: well the industry in the US likes paying royalties for Philips patents I guess.

While grinding the tip off a Philips bit will allow it to seat further in a JIS screw, the fluke angles are still off, and a real JIS screwdriver will have better engagement.

 

[methomas70]

Which would explain why you don't ship to Canada?? WTF?
What is with people who sell RETAIL but won't ship outside THEIR country. Why the F bother then? Just loosing out on millions of potential customers

Kelpaso- this is opportunity knocking. YOU need to be the JIS shipper to Canada!
Don't just sit there on the sidelines, get in the game.
Tap that customer base that's in the millions.
Be the change you'd like to see!

 

[biowrench]

As for Philips: well the industry in the US likes paying royalties for Philips patents I guess.

Those patents are long, long, long run out. Must be something else, really compelling, I've never known the US to keep using primitive and ineffective standards long after everyone else moves on.

 

[jvitez]

Everyone should grab the Princess Auto Vessel deals before they're sold out. If they're putting them on clearance I assume they must be getting rid of them. Maybe too pricey for the usual Princess Auto customer? Or it might be out sinking peso of the the north..... Or maybe just a nice pre-Christmas sale?

Anyway, I bought this set earlier this year to work on a 1977 Yamaha. The Megadora looked very nice, nicer handles actually than these, but I already have an impact set:

 

[Rogue1987]

Those patents are long, long, long run out. Must be something else, really compelling, I've never known the US to keep using primitive and ineffective standards long after everyone else moves on.

Wait. What about imperial measurements?

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[rlitman]

Those patents are long, long, long run out

Actually they're not. There's Philips ACR2 for example and lots more. There is a LOT of development in the Philips field.

 

[PJNJ]

I too share the same enthusiasm for the Vessel Megadora drivers. I own some myself! Vessel packages a set of Megadora stubby and regular length drivers (Phillips and slotted tips); and includes an Impacta driver. It calls it the Megadora 8pc Japanese Motorcycle & ATV Repair Set. webBikeWorld wrote up a review on this set here: web article.

There are 2 vendors that sell this set: one from eBay precisionproworks and another named Phone Tech Supply. The eBay seller has a 100% feedback rating. He also sells other Japanese hand tools that are worth looking at including the Vessel Impacta P2 driver here: precisionproworks other Japanese tools offers.

Phone Tech Supply used to sell on eBay and had a 100% feedback rating. I would not hesitate to buy from them.


Good luck,

Dave

Actually there is a third vendor and they are supposed to be the North American distributor, JDV Products. Being an authorized distributor may make it easier for warranty claims. I purchased the Motorcycle repair kit from them.

Here's a link to them -
http://www.vesseltools.com/hand-too...ir/motorcycle-repair-kit/flypage_sku.tpl.html
Very easy to deal with.

 

[biowrench]

Actually there is a third vendor and they are supposed to be the North American distributor, JDV Products. Being an authorized distributor may make it easier for warranty claims. I purchased the Motorcycle repair kit from them.

Here's a link to them -
http://www.vesseltools.com/hand-too...ir/motorcycle-repair-kit/flypage_sku.tpl.html
Very easy to deal with.

Lower prices on the same kits Princess is selling too.

 

[mrborohachi]

Any Vessel. Though Sunflag 888s are also amazing.

+mutha Fing 1. My father found me 1 In Taiwan. It's got a hammer capped end. Handle profile is better than Wera

 

[Hootbro]

Ok maybe I'm a bit misinformed? Why is it more of a hassle to ship here? Don't you just take the package to the post office or shipper, pay them for the shipping and charge me? I don't see what the big deal is. Ya it costs ME more but that's my problem isn't it?

Maybe you are that 1 in 10 of Canadians that is a gem to deal with, the other 9 of your fellow countrymen are tools (no pun intended) in my experience of shipping stuff to Canada.

Most Canadians I have dealt with on private party sales and shipping from the states want you to lie on the customs deceleration to either what the item is and/or stated value. When you follow the law and correctly declare on the customs form, then you have said Canadian bitching about the customs fees and taxes they had to pay and wanting to rip you on feedback because of it.

Also, once it crosses into the Canadian Post system, it is like a proverbial black hole. Irony is that stuff shipped from Canada to the States is like only 10% of the ******** of shipping to Canada.