Joyce Gridland Vise?
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Outlawmws
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Pics?
lbgradwell
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bl00
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Here is a link to the only picture that was in the ad:
http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/dtep/media/JoyceCridlandVise.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
http://s1155.photobucket.com/user/dtep/media/JoyceCridlandVise.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0
Go buy that ASAP and post more pictures. Looks like it has some odd features.
Outlawmws
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I wonder what those screws are for in the slide? 
What are they asking?
What are they asking?
+1 . . . run out the door with your coat, pants and underwear over your shoulder, while running barefoot in the snow to your car !!
Get there before seller goes to bed tonight and snag that rare vise !!!
You could be scoring a new sacred spot in Vises of GJ thread !!
Good luck.
bl00
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It looks like they had a patent for a quick opening/closing mechanism.
http://www.google.com/patents/US349280
http://www.google.com/patents/US349280
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Outlawmws
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It's a double ended screw. half left hand and half right hand, and those screws hold the slide,'s "nut" the main screw head appears to float or possibly has a splined coupling to the head and handle assembly.
VERY cool!
VERY cool!
Fretters
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For the life of me, I can't figure the purpose of that twin direction leadscrew. Am I overlooking something blindingly obvious here?
Outlawmws
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Fret, It will double the speed of opening and closing the vise. what I haven't wrapped my head around yet is does it affect the force the jaws can make for given handle length and force on the handle, of does it remain the same?
drivesitfar
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Outlaw: are you saying the 2 screws on the side make the vise go in and out quicker? it also looks like there is a screw in the side of the static and a small half circle cut out on the back and bottom of the dynamic slide. or am i seeing things? I saw those 2 screws before Fretters posted and I still don't know why they would be there.
Edgar: thanks for the assist on the picture because B100's catalog page is a bit small.
B100: not sure how big your vise library is, but you seem to have it well organized. thanks for posting that page.
Dtep: more pictures of it would be great especially from the other side and top. it almost looks like it either has jaw covers or Parker style jaws. also want to see if those screws to through to the other side.
nice interesting vise
Edgar: thanks for the assist on the picture because B100's catalog page is a bit small.
B100: not sure how big your vise library is, but you seem to have it well organized. thanks for posting that page.
Dtep: more pictures of it would be great especially from the other side and top. it almost looks like it either has jaw covers or Parker style jaws. also want to see if those screws to through to the other side.
nice interesting vise
Fretters
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Cheers. I was having a devil of a time figuring that.
Now that Outlaw has mentioned its purpose, and looking over that diagram and description again, I think I may have twigged.
Those screws retain a second nut in the front jaw which is for the purpose of screwing the front jaw out rather than just making it follow the leadscrew, as is the norm, hence doubling the opening/closing speed.The part which originally threw me was as to the how, but looking it over again, the sleeve over the front end of the screw isn't round. It'll likely be either triangular, square, hex, splined, maybe even just a keyway and key, or similar. That allows the sleeve on the front end of the screw to slide in and out of the handle ball whilst still transmitting drive to the screw.
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wild cowboy
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wow - good catch!
(More pix to come. Photobucket seems to be dead.)
As Paul Harvey used to say "And now, the rest of the story..."
A couple weeks ago, I went to the Joyce Dayton (formerly Joyce Cridland) company website and sent an email telling them what I had and asking if they could tell me when they manufactured vises. An hour and a half later, I get a call from the President of the company who also acts as the company historian. He tells me that when the sales person who got my email walked into his office and told him of my message, his response was "We never made vises." I directed him to this thread and as he read through it, he got noticeably more excited. The oldest sales catalog that they had was from 1910 so the 1888 ad and the patent posted by bl00 were news to him. First he asked if I could send him pictures of the vise, then he offered the company's services to restore it so that some of the folks could actually see it, and finally told me that if I ever want to sell it, I should call him.
As Paul Harvey used to say "And now, the rest of the story..."
A couple weeks ago, I went to the Joyce Dayton (formerly Joyce Cridland) company website and sent an email telling them what I had and asking if they could tell me when they manufactured vises. An hour and a half later, I get a call from the President of the company who also acts as the company historian. He tells me that when the sales person who got my email walked into his office and told him of my message, his response was "We never made vises." I directed him to this thread and as he read through it, he got noticeably more excited. The oldest sales catalog that they had was from 1910 so the 1888 ad and the patent posted by bl00 were news to him. First he asked if I could send him pictures of the vise, then he offered the company's services to restore it so that some of the folks could actually see it, and finally told me that if I ever want to sell it, I should call him.
oldldh
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That phone call---
That vise---
Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!
That vise---
Ya Dun Gud, Bubba!!!
It's rare in this day and age where a company truly cares for it's history.
Were it my vise I would sell it to them. Price would be a restored Reed swivel jaw from Balane or KMScott LOL. Something in the 4 1/2 jaw width would be perfect.
Were it my vise I would sell it to them. Price would be a restored Reed swivel jaw from Balane or KMScott LOL. Something in the 4 1/2 jaw width would be perfect.
drivesitfar
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Dtep: nice story and great looking vise. at the very least you should show up at the company if not too far and bring in the vise to show the guys even if you want to restore it yourself. 
Mark in Indiana
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Dtep: Thanks for sharing your story. I'm really there are groups like this one to keep interest in old arn alive.
Outlawmws
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AMAZING STORY! 
Ask him to join, and tell us what he does with it! this is SO cool!
And where better to get expert advise on restoring it!
Ask him to join, and tell us what he does with it! this is SO cool!
And where better to get expert advise on restoring it!
jreb10
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I think I am going to sell the vise to them. It means a lot to them and to me, it is VERY cool, but is just a vise.
Photobucket is back so here goes...
Looks like there may be a crack at the base of the static jaw where the dynamic jaw enters it. Good idea to sell it to them as they will not care about it. Its a historical piece not a tool to them.
Outlawmws
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So what is happening with this?
Youngguns
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I think you're making the right call.
drivesitfar
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DTep: nice gesture. did you get tools or cash for the vise? now that is finding the right buyer for a vise at its finest.
Fred. What you bring to this thread can't be measured.
drivesitfar: I just got back what I paid for it plus a few bucks for gas to go buy another vise. They were pretty excited to get it back so I can enjoy that.
BTW, the president of Joyce/Dayton Corp. is now a member of GJ! Where do I pick up my recruiting bonus?? :-D
BTW, the president of Joyce/Dayton Corp. is now a member of GJ! Where do I pick up my recruiting bonus?? :-D
drivesitfar
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Dtep: you should feel good about that and good story for the grand kids too. what vise did you buy or are you still looking.
Bl00: i second and third and forth AutoPts comment. thanks for all you do.
Bl00: i second and third and forth AutoPts comment. thanks for all you do.
drivesitfar: Here is the vise that I bought http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=4608895&highlight=dtep#post4608895
drivesitfar
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Dtep: didn't you take that vise apart and find a problem or maybe that was somebody else. it looks decent from the one side of the vise so i hope yours isn't the one i'm thinking about that was welded or cracked.
again nice gesture with the Joyce vise and i'm sure Karma will be good around your house for a while for that one.
cheers
again nice gesture with the Joyce vise and i'm sure Karma will be good around your house for a while for that one.
cheers
drivesitfar: Thanks for the kind words. The "new" vise has a crack in the slide, but it is just lying on the floor of my garage as I haven't gotten around to building a workbench to put it on yet. Too many projects, so little time...