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308guru

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Hello all,

I'm looking for a recommendation for jumper cables. Something up to the task of jumping your average SUV, nothing crazy. Bonus points for USA made and reasonably priced, but not sure if those two can be used together.

Thanks.
 
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Just adding one thing I would really like, is something that's soft and flexible, especially in colder temps.
 
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Looks like Spartan cables are made in the USA and not crazy pricing.

I love seeing the Amazon cheapies that have copper colored "paint" or some coating on the clamps. :rolleyes:
 

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I like the welding wire idea, it's quite flexible, you know exactly what the real "gauge" is, and you can roll your own ends.

I RARELY jump a battery anymore. I use those battery booster deals... If you have a wife/kids that ever need to "jump" their car, the boosters are pretty idiot proof.
 

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Same here, but with new clamps from the parts store. Also have been known to use them to extend my welder's reach.
I grew weary of crappy jumpers. I bought some #2 welding wire and salvaged the clamps from my last (crappy) set. Bring on the dead batteries!....I'm loaded for big game!
 

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Hello all,

I'm looking for a recommendation for jumper cables. Something up to the task of jumping your average SUV, nothing crazy. Bonus points for USA made and reasonably priced, but not sure if those two can be used together.

Thanks.
F&F near you?
  • Flexible to -40 C
  • Length: 20'
  • Gauge: 2
 

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I have a set of the Deka but I have only used them once or twice since buying a Gooloo 4000 off Amazon for $100. I'm not sure where I currently have them since the small jump box is much handier and has no problem jumping my completely dead truck, tractors, and combine. It started a 755 cubic inch pulling tractor so it'll start about anything I'll run across.
 

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I'd personally avoid the "copper clad aluminum" wire models. Pure copper costs more, but they will be more flexible and hold up to higher amps (if that matters to you).
Not only that but with pure copper you can use smaller gauge wire to carry the same current. Making them more flexible and easier to carry around.
 

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Welding cable all day , and long enough to go from left hand to right hand side of the vehicle
and wood quality clamps
ideally, long enough to go from the front of one car to the front of the other, when the nose of the dead car is in a parking lot, and you can only pull up to the trunk. I made a set of not quite 50' long cables out of a piece of 0 or 00 welding cable a customer gave me (it was a 100' length, cut almost perfectly in half on a job site, the offending sub paid for the replacement.) when I was driving a tow truck. The boss thought it was ridiculous, until one of the other drivers raved about being able to start a box truck wedged into an inaccessible spot. We normally used the JNC pack, but sometimes you need more uumph.
 

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I can give you a few tips:

Welding cable, the lower the number the better,
Pure copper wire, much better than the copper coated aluminum wire.
20 feet in length, longer is better.
Special coated outer jacket, that will hold up to very cold weather.
Copper clamps, stay away from the copper coated clamps.

Things to watch out for:
Look for a number 6 or lower, again lower is better, but you will pay out the wazoo.
No matter how good the price sounds beware of the copper coated aluminum wire.
You will never know how a dead car is parked, I have seen guys struggle to go around several objects in order to jump a dead battery, long cables for sure.

I know of one company, but the cheapest price is way out of your price point, polar wire company.

It took me a long time, but I bought three used sets for myself and my two boys off of craigslist, the deals are out there. Like someone pointed out those jumper boxes do work very well, but after a few years the batteries tend to die off.
 

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I made a set of jumper cables out of welding cable circa 1982 and I still have ‘em (and use them, albeit increasingly less often).. That’s a fine way to go.
 
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One advantage of adapting your own jumper cables out of proper gauge copper cable is that the positive and negative leads are not siamesed together in a pair, but instead are individualized conductors.

This avoids shorts from the cable clamps inadvertently touching one another, such as when one end of siamesed store bought pair of jumper cables is connected to a battery, while the other end is being wrestled about to connect to a battery, or if there is a mis-communication between the person being jumped and the person doing the jumping.

The advantage of individual positive and separate negative leads is that the there can be a greater distance between where ground is connected on the engine block from where the positive is connected, either on the provisioned jumper lug (with GM vehicles) or at the battery.

By not connecting both leads directly to the battery, one can avoid a spark upon connection that can ignite the local cloud of hydrogen gas that outgasses from flooded lead acid batteries.... so individualized jumper cables make it easier to be safer when jump starting vehicles.

I've had individualized jumper cables unpaired for the last 30 years (same cables too). I connect each cable one at a time. Most of my jump starting has been as a Good Samaritan, dealing with unpredictable strangers who often don't know any better. Individual positive and separate negative leads helps keep me safer from them.
 
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of course, the GJ overkill answer is fabricate some 2 AWG copper welding leads as jumper cables. But realistically, how often do you use jumper cables? Yes, you want them to work when you need them, but any decent gauge CCA set from Amazon is going to work; you're not going to wear them out from fatigue, and they'll flow more current than the clamps will transfer thru their limited contact area. I have a 2 ga CCA set by Energizer, and they've started the several V8s that needed a jump. Since then, I bought a Noco jump pack and that worked just fine on a V6 Nissan last time.
 

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I grew weary of crappy jumpers. I bought some #2 welding wire and salvaged the clamps from my last (crappy) set. Bring on the dead batteries!....I'm loaded for big game!

I made my heavy-duty 25' set out of a 50' coil of 1/0 AWG welding cable and Associated Equipment's 6205 800 Amp Clamp Kit. They weigh almost 30 lbs and surprisingly fit easily in a Bucket Boss AB30070 cable bag thanks to the 100% copper being so flexible and easy to coil up. They don't fight you like the copper-clad aluminum cables that are just about all you see these days.

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Bigger the gauge the better. Wire gauge numbers go down with thicker cable, but then back up for the really thick stuff.
Even a small engine starter motor will take over 100 amps. I measured my old small car's 1.6L engine as taking about 135 amps to start give or take, in the heat of summer when it's easy to turn over an engine. Bigger engines will be much more, several hundred amps.

There are awful sets of jumper cables at stores, some being only 10 gauge. That's going to burn up quick. They're also useless lengths, about a few feet. Some cables trick you into thinking it's thick wire, but just the cable jacketing is thick. Always pay attention to the actual wire gauge, which should be listed on the package.

To jump a car, you need minimal voltage drop from the donor battery to the dead one. Voltage drop really matters for 12-volt electrics, as drop doesn't care what voltage you start with, it's about the flow of amps over the wire's resistance, with more amps causing more drop. Having 5 volts drop over 120v doesn't matter much. That same drop at 12v can make the difference between cranking and not.

The answer is thick, thicc copper jumper cables. Big and thick. I have a set of 20-foot 2/0 (two-aught) gauge cables. That's not 2 gauge, it's several gauges thicker. They have solid copper clamps and have never failed me. The dead car cranks at full speed and starts right up, no slow cranking here. Of course that depends on the donor and dead car's levels of terminal and internal cable corrosion. I've seen some nasty unloved cabling, probably causing their dead battery in the first place.
If I was getting cables again, I'd get a set of 25-footers, as there have been situations where the donor car could only get behind the dead one, and 20-foot is just barely enough. It wouldn't be if the dead car was a large pickup, and you could only get behind it (some of the cable's length goes into each engine compartment, reducing the useful length).

Even the largest cable gauges aren't for cranking continuously. Check wire gauge ampacity tables if you're interested, and factor in engine cranking amps. But you just need to crank long enough to get the engine started, without melting the cable or clamps.

I have two sets of 2/0 cables, but I like the ones from https://www.centurytool.net the best, as they use genuine welding cable and solid copper clamps. Cables this good are expensive compared to a jump pack, at about 3x the cost. But you don't have the concern of the jump pack failing to deliver in the cold, or overheating, or spontaneously catching fire due to lithium battery chemistry, or just wearing out over time. Cables just sit there, at the ready. ProjectFarm has good videos on jump packs.

Getting cables again, I'd get the 602400 which is 25 feet of 2/0 cable with Parrot clamps. They have other models with Mechanic clamps.
Or you could buy the parts and make the cables yourself.

However, thick jumper cables are heavy. I believe mine are over 40 pounds or so. So that could be considerable for the less able-bodied of us, or it could impact gas mileage hauling them around. They also take up space. So there's definitely a convenience trade-off from a jumper pack.

Using the cables is interesting. For longer cranks, I noticed the connection point between the copper clamps and the battery terminals is the weak point. More so with corrosion. The point at which they touch may start smoking due to low contact surface area. Don't let that go too long, hah.

Edit: Also if you have a helper, make sure they don't touch the connected clamps together as they move the cables around. Ugh. Follow correct connection procedure.
 
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of course, the GJ overkill answer is fabricate some 2 AWG copper welding leads as jumper cables. But realistically, how often do you use jumper cables? Yes, you want them to work when you need them, but any decent gauge CCA set from Amazon is going to work; you're not going to wear them out from fatigue, and they'll flow more current than the clamps will transfer thru their limited contact area. I have a 2 ga CCA set by Energizer, and they've started the several V8s that needed a jump. Since then, I bought a Noco jump pack and that worked just fine on a V6 Nissan last time.
I've jumped a bunch of cars with my crappy harbor freight cables. Not sure if they are 6 gauge or 8 gauge, and every time I use them, I swear I will get better ones, but every time they just work and then they coil up, go back in the original pouch and tuck neatly under the front seat of my car. Can't do that with a 20+ ft 2 or 4 gauge set.

I also don't own or care about jumping diesel trucks in sub zero temps and don't mind if a jump takes a little longer than with thick cables or a jump pack
 
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I also don't own or care about jumping diesel trucks in sub zero temps and don't mind if a jump takes a little longer than with thick cables or a jump pack
People don't seem to realize that if you connect the jumpers and give the dead battery a chance to pick up a bit of a charge before trying to start the dead car, you don't have to have 10000 amps going through the jumper cables.
 

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CCA (copper clad aluminum) will work fine, and will be significantly lighter than copper cables, IF it's for occasional use. CCA cables will work harden faster over time, and IN GENERAL, it's not good for copper and aluminum to be in contact with each other due to galvanic corrosion (over time). Aluminum easily gives up ions when exposed to more noble metals (such as copper), which makes it a good sacraficial anode - which is why sacrificial anodes for water heaters are made of aluminum many times, versus more expensive magnesium. Also be aware that REALLY cheap CCA cables may not be properly annealed, so will work harden faster. For example, I have seen some CCA cables made from cables made for automotive stereo wiring. Such wiring will likely not be annealed properly for jumper cables, as the intended use would not be to constantly move/bend.

Current capability is current capability regardless of whether the conductor is CCA or pure copper.

Copper cables will be less prone to work hardening over time with constant bending, coiling/uncoiling, etc., will not experience galvanic corrosion (but WILL corrode over time - the green stuff), and will be significantly heavier than CCA, and of course, will be quite a bit more expensive.

For an SUV, I would PERSONALLY recommend at least 4awg (6awg is a little thin). 4awg will be acceptable, especially where jumper cables do not carry current for more than a few seconds at a time (you're not trying to run a power grid).

A 20ft set will usually allow you to jump a fairly large SUV with the 'donor' vehicle parked in front of or behind the 'recipient' vehicle (versus having to be side-by-side).

Although I do have 2 little lithium "jump boxes," I also have the Performance Tool W1667, which is copper 4awg and 20ft (rated for 500 amps). Made in USA (at least when i bought it). I was debating about using welding cables as well like others, but came across a deal where for whatever reason it was being sold for $47 on Amazon (it's $91 now), which made it much cheaper than using welding cable.
 
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NOS Craftsman Diehard booster cables from the 90s-00s are awesome quality of you can still find them
Agree on the Sears cables. Don't remember if they are Diehard but 30 years ago bought a set from Sears that are 18' , 5 gage. Only 5 gage I've ever seen. Maybe "Sears exclusive". All copper with white insulation that's still flexible. They've been good through the years but sometimes wished I'd stepped up a level and got 20' with a bit better clamps. That extra 2 feet would have been nice more than once. I believe they cost about $30 back then.
 

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Lots of good suggestions here and I'll second the nominations for making from welding cable if you can't find a really good set pre-made.
I've had LOTS of various jumper cables over the years as they seem to be standard equipment in the trunks of the old cars I prefer to buy.
Most have been cheapies probably used once(perhaps successfully) that I give away. I've kept ONE set out of the dozens. My go to set was purchased in 1974. A good friend convinced me to buy the best ones available and they are still serving me nigh on fifty years later.
 

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I use jumper cables all the time. I'm always looking for better quality jumper cables. Thank you for starting this thread.
 

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Spend the money and get at least 20' ones. Make sure they use 100% copper wire, not copper coated aluminum.

Only used these once so far. Amazon

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First you tell everyone to make sure they buy 100% copper cables... Then you post a link to a set that is copper clad aluminum. lolol

The first indicator is the price. Those Energizer cables are WAY to cheap to be 100% copper... and it also says copper clad aluminum in the description.
 

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Honestly any decent pair of Jumpers will work, I've jump started a Semi with a 10$ pair off of amazon.

Personally though I haven't used cables in years, instead opting to just carry a small battery jump pack. Takes less room in the vehicle than cables, and works even if you don't have another car around.
 

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I haven't used jumpers in forever.

With wacky modern cars, I just put the CTEK on it, and pump 10A into the battery if she's iffy. Bosch alternators from the early-mid 2000's used to eat themselves when jumped. Yes, you got the starter going, but there's lots of amp hungry modules that still want to be fed once the jumpers are removed, and the uncharged battery is still slurping the amps.

-Ryan
 

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Save your money on jumper cables and buy a NEW BATTERY.

I started looking at issues like this and I have gottrn rid of two sets and I don't use my other one. As a bonus, I don't have to F%^*$ around in the cold.
 
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