Jumper packs, full size or...?

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

Hey guys. I'm in the market for a new jumper pack. I'm wondering if I should buy a 12v truck pac from clore automotive or buy one of those pocket sized packs, and if so, which one?

 

[American Locomotive]

...what are you trying to jumpstart?

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

Well, i personally have a lincoln town car and a mercury grand marquis (both V8), a Chevy Silverado (V8) as well as a toyota highlander (6 cylinder). I tend to buy most things a bit overkill in case anything comes up but don't know much about the jump packs. Anything i've used in a shop was just there so i never really paid attention. I figured there's not much this one couldn't handle http://www.cloreautomotive.com/sku.php?id=270 but if i could save a ton of money i'd be ok with that too lol. I may occassionally have to move a car a short distance without a battery so that's also a consideration.

 

[JJThrasher]

The JNC660 is pretty much the industry standard jump pack. That's what I use and recommend. I do stack it with a little lithium ion jump pack on the second battery of larger trucks.

 

[Ign]

It also depends upon your exact needs. I'm liking the little li-ion jumpers, quite often I pull them into a hotel room to charge my phone LOL. But if you're looking strictly at jumping vehicles something like the proven JNC660 might be the way to go. Furthermore I could never stash a JNC in my wife's Yukon but a tiny li-ion in a little zipper case easily tucks under the seats or whatever. My Rockford holds a charge for months and months.

 

[chris142]

I have had no luck with the little ones. Bought one and it blew up! It did start a jeep with a bad alternator but it blew up doing so. They warrantied it and that one has swelled and I have not even used it yet.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

What do you all think about this one? http://www.cloreautomotive.com/sku.php?id=539

 

[2000-cvpi]

No clue on the jump pack. Just wanted to say you have good taste in cars.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

lol thanks. How's the Noco GB70?

 

[LB-1911]

How's the Noco GB70?

08-01-2016
Jump Starter Noco GB70 or JNC660
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=335561

 

[1cargarage]

I love my little Schumacher "Red Fuel" Li Ion jump pack. It's compact and super handy. I keep it in my Nissan Hardbody and often use it on friends' cars and my girlfriend's car (98 Exploder). It hasn't let me down with small gas engine cars and light SUVs. It will not jump my Volkswagen TDI though. I think the battery spec on that car calls for ~1,100 cranking amps. I have a little Jump 'n Carry too that has failed to jump that thing.

If you're going to be jumping big V8s in really cold weather and/or any diesels, the compact jump pack probably won't work for you.

For the size and handiness though, they're awesome. You can charge them from the cigarette lighter, they have a USB port on them to charge your phone or whatever. For me, it was ~$80 well spent.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

Thank you for that link. I see that the JNC660 has a strap that goes across both sides of the clamp essentially making them both "hot" where as the JNC770R does not. Does this make a big difference? Is the weight difference and digital readout worth the extra money? I can give or take the light and USB (though a nice feature). But do the clamps make or break it?

 

[IndyGarage]

I had a little Shumacher jump pack I bought at Walmart for a few years that would wheeze out a jump if I was lucky. It was dead the last time I tried to use it, and wouldn't charge.

So I bought a JNC770 - what a difference. Now that's the jump pack I wish I would have started with. It will jump 4 or 5 cars easily on a single charge. I drained a flooded boat with a bilge pump and the jump pack. It's sort of the newer deluxe model of the JNC660, which I think has the same battery - I think you can save a few bucks by buying the 660.

 

[IndyGarage]

Thank you for that link. I see that the JNC660 has a strap that goes across both sides of the clamp essentially making them both "hot" where as the JNC770R does not. Does this make a big difference? Is the weight difference and digital readout worth the extra money? I can give or take the light and USB (though a nice feature). But do the clamps make or break it?

I looked at both and bought the 770, so I can't really compare the two. I do know the leads are longer on the 770, which is really nice. It has the light and 2 USB ports. I've never used the USB, but I have used the light and it's very bright.

The 770 also has an on off switch that I think the 660 doesn't have - which is useful - you can turn the leads on after you get them connected, then turn them off before you disconnect - no sparks - no explosions.

I think it also had reverse polarity protection, which is good when I loan it to people. It has digital readout, which doesn't really give you much.

If you are pressed for cash, the 660 will work fine. If the $25 extra isn't a burden, the 770 gives you some nice upgrades.

Edit: One additional thing that they may have upgraded on the 770 is the charger. It seems to recharge when you plug it in extremely fast - like both time I've done it 15 minutes or less.

 

[anndel]

JNC 660 or NOCO GB70 - I have both - the JNC 660 jumped my friend's Nissan Titan and his wife's Nissan Armada. The GB70 was used to jump my co-worker's Toyota 5.8L V8. They both work well.

 

[FigureItOut]

I looked at both and bought the 770, so I can't really compare the two. I do know the leads are longer on the 770, which is really nice. It has the light and 2 USB ports. I've never used the USB, but I have used the light and it's very bright.

The 770 also has an on off switch that I think the 660 doesn't have - which is useful - you can turn the leads on after you get them connected, then turn them off before you disconnect - no sparks - no explosions.

I think it also had reverse polarity protection, which is good when I loan it to people. It has digital readout, which doesn't really give you much.

If you are pressed for cash, the 660 will work fine. If the $25 extra isn't a burden, the 770 gives you some nice upgrades.

Edit: One additional thing that they may have upgraded on the 770 is the charger. It seems to recharge when you plug it in extremely fast - like both time I've done it 15 minutes or less.

I think you're right about the faster charging. The 770R has a 3 amp internal charger listed on Clore's website, the 660 doesn't have a spec listed. You're right also about the reverse polarity protection. I did a somewhat in depth thread comparing the two and I missed those two details, so thank you.

 

[gb07]

I have the big jump pack and recently a small matco lithium ion pack. I hate the lithium ion pack, and find myself giving up and grabbing the big tried and true clore jump pack. They last for several years, and don't require jacking with the tiny buttons on the plug to get them to work. The lithium pack won't start a car with no battery in it; at least mine won't. The clore will. I can't use the lithium pack to power up a door regulator that is unplugged from the car to test; the clore will. The ONLY advantage to the lithium packs is weight and size, other than that, the big packs can just simply do more, just not as conveniently.


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[SuzukiGS750EZ]

My power all deluxe failed, I've used it less than 10 times. Had I taken that same money and put it into a clore, I'd still be using it! My grandfather had a 12/24v truck pac from clore that lasted him years, so that's what made me look at that company. I think in going to skip over the little packs. I'd rather have something I can trust than something packable.

 

[whofan]

I found that keep up on battery replacement and load testing avoids the need most of the time for having a charger or booster Pac. I see people spending money on these things only to come to the conclusion of battery replacement. Good to have in that odd time of leaving your lights on and running down the battery. I have a portable charger with a engine booster mode. For my daughter I have thought about a small lithium Pac.

 

[Lotek]

The little ones are cute, but not practical for day to day usage, I have a 660 that's going on 8 years now, seems like everyone in the shop is borrowing it, have a micro, it won't charge past 50% anymore, won't jump a car, but will charge a cellphone, the used car mgr has gone through about 4 of them, even exploded one. I suggested that if he worked out a bit, he might be able to carry a man-sized jump box.

 

[Badger 13]

I currently have and use the Solar Booster Pac ES5000. Back in the day I worked for a Towing company these were in all of the trucks and served us well.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

I found that keep up on battery replacement and load testing avoids the need most of the time for having a charger or booster Pac. I see people spending money on these things only to come to the conclusion of battery replacement. Good to have in that odd time of leaving your lights on and running down the battery. I have a portable charger with a engine booster mode. For my daughter I have thought about a small lithium Pac.

I've used it way more times for other people. My vehicles get up kept, but the odd time something is left on they work well. I do a lie of work for other people so having one on hand or for neighbors is beneficial. But I agree, be proactive with vehicle maintenance

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

I bought the JNC770R for 130 new. Should be here next week. We'll see how it goes. My powerall was a disappointment to say the least. I guess the technology just isn't there. I thought it was. Oops

 

[johninct]

Did anyone ever try the new Snap-On Lithium one? I have the JNC 950 and it has never let me down.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

Well see how this one goes. If it ***** you're all in trouble

 

[GTO]

JNC660 here

 

[brandon523]

I've owned two JNC 660's in the past. Both got stolen. They were absolutely top notch.


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[Finky198]

Jnc 950 here 7+ years used at least 5 times a week. It's never once failed to start something. One of my top 10 tools.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

This 770 is a serious pack! Those clamps should grab and hold onto anything i throw them on. i haven't used it yet, but does anybody know if the pack will report the voltage of the battery in the car? i think the snap on unit i used at work had that feature. They're also idiot proof right (polarity)?

 

[Mike.VA]

My 78 325I died the other day on me and my neighbor brought over his XP10 and gave me a jump. He said he hasn't re-charged it in months and I was the 10 tenth car he has jumped since last charging it.
It is small, very small. Is this unit really that good?

 

[pcmeiners]

Basically jumper pack capacity is just like a car battery, the heavier they are, the higher the capacity. As mentioned the micros are cute, but have very limited capacity. Also note the charge capacity of packs diminishes by 20% per year as the batteries age.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/jump-starters/buying-guide

 

[kythri]

How does the 770 charge? Is there an AC cord on it?

 

[anndel]

I have the Clore JNC660, NOCO GB70 and GB40 and a small pocket sized WINPLUS from Costco. All starts our 3 vehicles - 6 cyl Toyota Avalon and Tacoma and our 4 cyl Toyota pk up. I've used the NOCO GB40 on a 5.8L Toyota Tundra and it starts up great.

 

[SuzukiGS750EZ]

How does the 770 charge? Is there an AC cord on it?

It comes with cords, but they're separate.

 

[MattPersman]

My 78 325I died the other day on me and my neighbor brought over his XP10 and gave me a jump. He said he hasn't re-charged it in months and I was the 10 tenth car he has jumped since last charging it.
It is small, very small. Is this unit really that good?

Yes. Don't let the small guys fool you it is hard to wrap your head around it but they are the way of the future


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