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Just bought an Autel KM100 key tablet

cgrutt

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Finally got my son's car back on the road and I get a call, "dad, I forgot to tell you (UT oh what now...), the battery in my key died I can't lock and unlock my doors". Great, the car only came with one key and if he loses it or something happens to it we're up the proverbial creek...

The key has a "non servicable" battery, which really means the case has to be cut opened and a new battery has to be soldered onto the circuit board. Then the case has to be glued back together. No biggie (I hope) ordered a couple batteries and will try to fix it this weekend.

But the fact he only has one key has been bothering me since he bought the car. I've actually looked into a key programmer a bunch of times the cheapest solution has been in the $600-$700 range and it's always hasn't been that much of a priority (of course we could have one cut at the dealer for $200-$400 but that just rubs me the wrong way lol.) So looked again and there's a newish Autel KM100 universal key programmer that looks like it just might work! I had one in my Amazon cart for over $500 (including 10% "discount") but decided to try another site. Wound up getting it for $414 shipped and have already received an email from UPS saying it will be delivered tomorrow!

The kit includes two universal "smart" keys but unfortunately I don't think will work on my son's car. I ordered two aftermarket keys. I may need to "unlock" the aftermarket keys after they are programmed. I think the KM100 includes a mini USB cable that can be soldered onto circuit board to unlock the key. The KM100 apparently displays instructions how to do this if needed but it's pretty much vehicle dependent so won't know until I try.

I'll post an update if I get this to work this weekend. Here's what it looks like.

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Note this doesn't do everything the more expensive programmers can do. For example it works through the OBD port which may be problematic in some vehicles (BMW included) and I don't believe it can do an "All Keys Lost" scenario, at least not easily. Also can't program a new immobilizer module to vehicle if that's what's needed. But supposedly copies and adds an existing key for many (hundreds) of vehicles and was fairly inexpensive relative to other key programmers. I'm looking forward to seeing how it works.
 
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I received the KM100 yesterday it's actually a pretty nice unit a little larger than a large cellphone. Seems to have a really nice user interface. I was trying to play around with it but wasn't able to get too far because I wasn't actually connected to a car. I watched several videos and it actually can perform an all keys lost scenario. Pretty amazing technology if it actually works.

It came with two universal smart keys but they won't work with my son's car (his key is apparently only "semi smart" lol). I bought what I thought were two aftermarket replacements but it turned out they were two-packs so I now have four extra keys for his car! It was just over $40 for the four keys. The factory key is about $275 before programming local dealer wanted $400 to make one key. F that.

I also received two batteries to repair his original key. If these replacements work I may just make a couple and let him use those for now and deal with fixing the other key another time.

Now I'm looking into a DEFU machine so I can cut the valet key. Seems a little wonky but may give it a shot. Always like learning new stuff...

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Just an update tried making a key over weekend the machine I bought doesn't work. My son's key module is CAS3++ which is encrypted. There is a workaround where you degrade the firmware to unencrypted (CAS3+) add the key and then upgrade the firmware again. I thought this machine did that. My bad. The next Autel up apparently works but not sure if I'm going to go that route. There are other ways around it have to do some more research.

On a positive note I was able to cut his key apart and solder in a new battery! At least that worked LOL...
 
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Just an update tried making a key over weekend the machine I bought doesn't work. My son's key module is CAS3++ which is encrypted. There is a workaround where you degrade the firmware to unencrypted (CAS3+) add the key and then upgrade the firmware again. I thought this machine did that. My bad. The next Autel up apparently works but not sure if I'm going to go that route. There are other ways around it have to do some more research.

On a positive note I was able to cut his key apart and solder in a new battery! At least that worked LOL...
Call around to vehicle locksmiths. Someone can program keys, and will be lots cheaper than the dealer. Thjey can cut the phsyical key too.
 

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Why not just open the case, solder leads to a slim 2032 battery holder, run the leads under the holder through the back of the key fob case, and glue the holder to the back of the fob with epoxy. The leads would be under the holder and no wires would be exposed. You will never have to worry about opening the case again. You would only spend around $5.

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Why not just open the case, solder leads to a slim 2032 battery holder, run the leads under the holder through the back of the key fob case, and glue the holder to the back of the fob with epoxy. The leads would be under the holder and no wires would be exposed. You will never have to worry about opening the case again. You would only spend around $5.

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I replaced battery in his factory key that wasn't a problem I'm trying to make him a spare key.
 
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Answer me this ,Batman.....How can aboriginie kids who dont go to school ,and roam the streets all night steal 2024 MB,BMW,Lexus etc cars with tech they get off the 'dark web' ?
Wouldn't know I don't surf the dark web sounds interesting though lol. Keys can be made for this car BTW I just have to spend more money for a better tool, figure out a work around with tools I already own (I'm sure there is a way to do this with XProg for example but I don't know how to do it, yet anyway) or **** it up and pay the dealer... I can tell you out of the three options the last is unlikely to happen I prefer to be self sufficient lol.
 
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