Just curious "SAE or "American"

[Magnum440d100]

I’ve used the terms standard and SAE.

But I use SAE more often than not.

 

[cadunkle]

Standard. Never heard a normal or standard fastener referred to as any of the terms OP listed except SAE.

 

[dr_clyde]

I usually say "standard" but occasionally will say SAE or inches.

I rarely use metric because I don't work on cars. Most of the industrial and aviation world still uses inches.

I have a full set of metric, but I use SAE 10:1. Inches IS my standard to which I work, so calling it "standard" makes sense in my head.

 

[bigdav160]

I always fractional.

If it doesn't seem clear to the person I am talking to I say SAE.
If they still don't get it, I ask for someone else.

 

[Ilikeike]

SAE/Standard.

I mostly just say standard

 

[K'ledgeBldr]

SAE- Society of Automotive Engineers. Kinda makes you wonder what the Hell does that have to do with a nut or bolt!
Maybe it should be (S)tandard (A)merican (E)quipment????


When referencing one over the other, do you really say- '1/2" SAE' or '1/2" standard? Kinda goes without saying...
1/2" is a 1/2" versus 13mm!

 

[sz0k30]

I just use: English or Metric.

 

[ttpete]

SAE- Society of Automotive Engineers. Kinda makes you wonder what the Hell does that have to do with a nut or bolt!
Maybe it should be (S)tandard (A)merican (E)quipment????


When referencing one over the other, do you really say- '1/2" SAE' or '1/2" standard? Kinda goes without saying...
1/2" is a 1/2" versus 13mm!

About 100 years ago the SAE published standards for automotive fasteners. Their new series was fine threaded. The bolt heads and nuts were smaller across the flats compared to USS, and the flat washers had a smaller OD.

 

[dogdog]

I have heard them names calling

Standard
Inches
SAE
Imperial (I think it was abandon for some Political correctness things)

 

[dogdog]

SAE- Society of Automotive Engineers. Kinda makes you wonder what the Hell does that have to do with a nut or bolt!
Maybe it should be (S)tandard (A)merican (E)quipment????


When referencing one over the other, do you really say- '1/2" SAE' or '1/2" standard? Kinda goes without saying...
1/2" is a 1/2" versus 13mm!

I am pretty sure some where in the Europe that used to produce for the American market would substitute (S)tandard with (S)tupid.... ... I have heard it...

 

[dogdog]

Inch. Here in Sacolina, it's called 'Murican. Metric is still widely believed to be a Communist plot.

LOL communist plot is trying to convert the inches standard from multiple of 1/8 to 1/10 scale.... I don't remember what industry uses them... I have seen them on rulers and scales that have 1/10 scales instead if 1/8 1/16 etc

 

[nbpt100]

I just use: English or Metric.

Looks like you did not vote in the poll. Just saying.

 

[shedfullatools]

Standard

 

[ttpete]

LOL communist plot is trying to convert the inches standard from multiple of 1/8 to 1/10 scale.... I don't remember what industry uses them... I have seen them on rulers and scales that have 1/10 scales instead if 1/8 1/16 etc

Surveyors use 10ths of inches and feet. I have a zigzag rule so calibrated.

 

[dogdog]

Surveyors use 10ths of inches and feet. I have a zigzag rule so calibrated.

why ?

 

[6PTsocket]

Usually SAE or "inch" or "&^%$#@! inch ^%$#!@ farm machinery bull&^%$#"

Within metric, I wish more people were aware of the distinctions; JIS (used by Asian manufacturers) and DIN (Euro) or SAE (US) metric all have various maddening differences that are important to be aware of when working with various machinery.

< rant >

And of course the US and Euro manufacturers just LOOOOVE to invent new wacky totally unneeded fastener types, not to mention violating their own standards willy-nilly. Plus you often get stuff like a German or Japanese transmission inhabiting a vehicle from a different part of the world, and it's madness, sheer madness I tell ya...

Since we're on the subject, I cannot fathom why proper JIS hardware is, in the year 2019, so %$#ing hard to find in the US of damn A. I mean, Toyota and Honda have been best-sellers hereabouts for decades. And there are more than a few Mazda, Hyundai, Kia, Nissan, etc. vehicles running around. But for some reason not one hardware store in ten stocks, for example, M10x1.25 flange head bolts.

When you enter a hardware store, 90% of the fasteners on display are shining untouched rows of inch ****. The 10% or less of bins featuring metric fasteners are desperately pawed-through and often empty. They really seem to prefer dusting neat bins of fasteners no one needs over selling and restocking the stuff almost all our machines need.

< /rant >

Ahh, I do feel a bit better. Nothing like venting one's spleen.

Thead pitch is measured the same in jis or iso or DIN. It mostly has to do with the heads. You get some different hex head sizes for a particular size thread or mechanical differences in cross slot drives.

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[gunguy]

I usually use the term, fractional as it's more descriptive, especially when talking to others.

Many times when I hear/see the term British, I think Whitworth.

Tighten it until it strips, then add a quarter turn....

Jim

 

[DFB]

Many times when I hear/see the term British, I think Whitworth.

Oh ya me too

 

[alfazer]

Imperial.

 

[Ilikeike]

why ?

Decimal system, I'm guessing.


all our engineer stuff is in 10ths. Our water reports to the State are in 10ths.
Staff gauges in basins 10ths of a ft.

I have an old Lufkin tape measure from my grandpa that says engineers on it. I don't think he knew when he bought it because he had a Red ink line on the tape and some penciled in inch marks,lol.

 

[DFB]

Framing squares also utilize 10ths scales...along with 12ths

 

[jls095]

Standard. Easier to say than SAE when asking for them!

 

[NickTheGreat]

I say standard, but might type SAE.