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In one word - wow..

Just came today.. I had bled/flushed all the lines in my truck not even a week ago using the traditional pump method. Hunting down a brake issue, so today I took off the master, bench bled it, and then used the Motive to bleed and flush everything again. I couldn't believe how much easier and better it was. First two lines I did in the rear, you could see all these little pieces of white debris that were being flushed out, and as stated, I JUST did a flush a few days ago too. I cleaned the inside of Motive bottle before I used it, so it definitely wasn't plastic pieces - cause there were some inside the kit when I got it.. But man, everyone that works on cars should get this thing. Forget those little vacuum pumps, get one of these instead.

I think with shipping it was $58. To build your own would probably cost about $30-$40. If I wanted to buy a just a replacement MC cap to make a good kit, that alone was like $15 online. Spend the extra $20 to get the Motive kit compatible with your master cylinder cap. It's worth it.. it's smaller, very well made, and once you have the basic kit you can buy additional fittings for different vehicle manufacturers. I'll never bleed brakes the old way again. My only 2 criticisms - no pressure relief valve like you'd get on a pump sprayer, and it would be nice if the kit had a quick connect on the hose instead of that screw fitting. but no big deal.

This is the one I got for my Ford truck.
Motive Products 107 Brake System Power Bleeder https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CJ5DZE2/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 
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I'm getting one of those before I bleed brakes next time. I wonder how much of a difference new fluid in the lines would make compared to 17 year old fluid.
 

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excellent kit, the vehicle specific adapters work great.

One word of caution, keep an eye on the hose, I had mine burst and spray brake fluid all over the engine compartment before I caught it. I would recommend changing the hose every year or two.
 

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In one word - wow..

Just came today.. I had bled/flushed all the lines in my truck not even a week ago using the traditional pump method. Hunting down a brake issue, so today I took off the master, bench bled it, and then used the Motive to bleed and flush everything again. I couldn't believe how much easier and better it was. First two lines I did in the rear, you could see all these little pieces of white debris that were being flushed out, and as stated, I JUST did a flush a few days ago too. I cleaned the inside of Motive bottle before I used it, so it definitely wasn't plastic pieces - cause there were some inside the kit when I got it.. But man, everyone that works on cars should get this thing. Forget those little vacuum pumps, get one of these instead.

I think with shipping it was $58. To build your own would probably cost about $30-$40. If I wanted to buy a just a replacement MC cap to make a good kit, that alone was like $15 online. Spend the extra $20 to get the Motive kit compatible with your master cylinder cap. It's worth it.. it's smaller, very well made, and once you have the basic kit you can buy additional fittings for different vehicle manufacturers. I'll never bleed brakes the old way again. My only 2 criticisms - no pressure relief valve like you'd get on a pump sprayer, and it would be nice if the kit had a quick connect on the hose instead of that screw fitting. but no big deal.

This is the one I got for my Ford truck.
Motive Products 107 Brake System Power Bleeder https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CJ5DZE2/?tag=atomicindus08-20
The reason there is no bleeder is they are using a modified garden sprayer bottle and they have installed the pressure gauge where the bleeder was intended to go. I don't recall the make and model but I was able to match it up and even find the full rebuild kit, that Motive does not stock. Motive does sell a quick disconnect kit that screws right onto those pipe fittings, but they don't look much different than regular air quick disconnects. The master cylinder adapters come in plastic and aluminum. I would definitely recommend that anybody buying this, spend the extra few bucks for the aluminum. When I did my Mopar truck, the instructions said it would be a very tight fit and it was. I don't know if plastic would have survived. Other reviewers all say go for the aluminum. I prefer a pressure bleeder to a vacuum bleeder. With a vacuum bleeder, unless you have a really good seal at the bleed screw and the threads are a tight fit, they can **** air at the fitting and it will look like you never got the air out of the line. With pressure, the wheel end is open and the fluid just flows out. For me this is fine but it can get expensive if you have to buy a lot of those aluminum adapters. They tell you to pressurize the system dry for a leak test before adding brake fluid. I found that the pump did not work well dry, even if I made sure the pump was lubed with brake fluid. I had trouble getting to 15psi. There were no system leaks, it did hold pressure, however, with brake fluid in the tank, it worked fine and pumped right up.

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bought one for my tacoma and the master cap leaked bad.turned out they had the wrong gasket in it. even with the right one its a ***** to seal with the chain set up. i dread using this thing because of mess it makes!!!!
 

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Just got one myself and used it for the first time last weekend. WOW! What a difference it makes in doing brakes. Best tool I've bought in years. Also bought adapters for my 5 different cars I maintain.
 

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bought one for my tacoma and the master cap leaked bad.turned out they had the wrong gasket in it. even with the right one its a ***** to seal with the chain set up. i dread using this thing because of mess it makes!!!!
Yeah, there are no proper caps for some vehicles. I seem to remember somebody using a clamp instead of the chain.

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If you just want to do one type of car ....like a race vehicle......
We just take the normal MC cap and drill it out for a Schrader Valve.....install the valve in the cap and screw the hose from the Motive Tank to the schrader valve.....pump it up and go bleed away......

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Just ordered a new MC for my truck.. I'm actually looking forward to using it again..

The little bleeder hose they included actually fits over the bleeder valve very tight. No air at all got into the hose.. I have mine routed through the cap of an old plastic soda bottle. Have a piece of wire wrapped around the neck to hang the bottle somewhere. It's completely mess free and painless.
 
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I don't put fluid in it, just use it for pressure. No leaks and no mess.
I have heard of other people doing that, too, but why not just buy the cap and hook it to your air compressor set for 15 psi?

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The air only idea should be good for a quick bleed after a brake job maybe. With this you can flush the entire system without having to worry about adding fluid. I pushed about 1.5 large bottles through my system. I KNOW nothing is in there that shouldn't be..
 

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I have the Motive and most of the adapters. The flat "universal" chain on type just WILL NOT seal leaks like crazy!. The adapter they sell fro GM "B" Bodies(Impala SS, Roadmaster, etc.) will not clear the firewall.

On cars w/ the screw on adapter, it works fine.
 
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Hate having to wait for.parts to come from Rock Auto, but I really like the selection they offer. surprised this isnt offered on the site. Like I said, I'm looking forward to using it again. I was gonna buy one of the vacuum pumps instead, I still might later on just to use on the motorcycle. Honestly the motive was definitely a great purchase though.

I suppose you could also buy a replacement MC cap, and install an air fitting to use on a regulated compressor. I wonder how much pressure you could safely apply that way. I'd guess the more pressure you can send, the more **** you can force out..
 
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I used one a friend bought to do his brakes on his old Firebird.
I pumped way too long to get up to 10lbs. Jut like with a cheap garden sprayer.
The dual M/cyl adapter plate and chains were a major issue. Leakage mess.
Dis-connecting the hose.... more fluid mess.
I appreciate my old professional KD steel pressure bleeder and quality adapters that
I bought with it years ago. It's pumped up with an air hose and uses no leak quick dis-connects.
 

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I have one and it worked well for the BMW but never used it on anything else due to the limited cap selection. I much prefer the Mityvac 7300 vacuum pump now (not the little hand pumps), it's what many garages use.
 
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I have one and it worked well for the BMW but never used it on anything else due to the limited cap selection. I much prefer the Mityvac 7300 vacuum pump now (not the little hand pumps), it's what many garages use.

Looks nice, a bit overkill for most people though..
 

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I finally got around to using mine yesterday. The pressures that turned out working the best were 20-23 PSI. Start at 23 PSI and when the pressure falls down to 20 PSI after cracking open the bleeder, pump it back up to 23 PSI. This was on a 2000 Buick LeSabre.
 

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I have had one for years that I use on my BMWs and love it. I do have to change the hose every couple of years as it yellows and I don't want to take a chance.

I also modified it by adding an air coupler for a quick disconnect so I don't have to start out by twisting the hose backwards before placing the cap on the MC.
 
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