PhantomEB
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I rather build than buy for the simple reason, my tires usually always bigger than stock....
Just ordered a wall-mounted tire rack (build vs. buy)
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315 x 18 or 17 is the sizes we deal with - a little tire is 275...
My Suburban/F250/Bronco tires are 33x12.50 and would need a big rack...
mustangmccance
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I have 2 comments on this subject. first of all almost any project that requires me to buy new tools is, to me, a good reason to do it lol. one can never have too many tools.
however my second comment is my shop is built for my enjoyment. if what I am doing in it is not enjoyable, why do it? I recently took my truck to the local mechanic to have an exhaust leak fixed. it was leaking from the header gasket. I installed those headers a few years ago so yes I could have replaced them, but they were a pain in the **** to install and I did not feel like putting up with the headache. I built my 65 mustang and I am currently in the process of building my 67 and I will do most all of that work myself including building the engine and rebuilding the automatic transmission. but I do not feel the need to waste my time doing something if it is not necessary. if I wanted to build the tire rack because I wanted practice welding or because I thought it would be fun I would do it. If I just wanted to get the tires out of the way so that I could work on something I wanted to do more I would buy it. Simple as that.
my free time is too valuable to me to waste on a project I don't want to do, if it is not necessary.
however my second comment is my shop is built for my enjoyment. if what I am doing in it is not enjoyable, why do it? I recently took my truck to the local mechanic to have an exhaust leak fixed. it was leaking from the header gasket. I installed those headers a few years ago so yes I could have replaced them, but they were a pain in the **** to install and I did not feel like putting up with the headache. I built my 65 mustang and I am currently in the process of building my 67 and I will do most all of that work myself including building the engine and rebuilding the automatic transmission. but I do not feel the need to waste my time doing something if it is not necessary. if I wanted to build the tire rack because I wanted practice welding or because I thought it would be fun I would do it. If I just wanted to get the tires out of the way so that I could work on something I wanted to do more I would buy it. Simple as that.
my free time is too valuable to me to waste on a project I don't want to do, if it is not necessary.
Here it is. I used rope instead of chain. I didn't have any chain laying around. Wife said I should pick up chain a little later. I also didn't get to paint it all cause I ran out of paint. I plan on painting that wall a little later so when I do that I will do a better paint job and I will add chain to it. Over all I am happy with it. It has freed up some space on the floor which is needed in my small garage. I didn't have to build it but I had the scrap material laying around and I enjoyed the project and now I have a place to put the winter storage tires/rims in the summer and the street rims/tires in the winter.
Thanks for the great post and letting me borrow your idea.
Thoughts/comments/suggestions?
Thanks for the great post and letting me borrow your idea.
Thoughts/comments/suggestions?
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Since leaving school and getting a real paycheck, I've changed my tune from "If I can't do it myself for pennies, it ain't getting done." to "I actually have money I can use to get something done prepositionally, quickly, and for less of a headache"
What marvelous things a regular paycheck allows for!
What marvelous things a regular paycheck allows for!
Well put
Nice work... maybe make the rear bottom hinged so you can fold it up when not in use. Lots of people have folding racks in their car trailers.
That is true... most of the things I DIY are because I don't see the value in paying for it or simply can't afford it. I loathe yardwork, but I don't spend a dime on it becaue it'd be foolish to pay someone ese that money when it takes me about an hour a week to do my lawn. However, when you grow up being the family yard slave tending to 6+ acres and having to spend 3-4 hours mowing/trimming it you develop a hatred for it
I used to spend my time on the riding mower dreaming up inventions that would stunt grass growth at a pre-determined height w/o killing it!
SgtRauksauff
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I had some unused space above my compressor, and some scrap wood laying around, so I just slapped something together. it gets four of them off the floor, where I normally just lay some cardboard on the floor, and stack the tires on top. it helped quite a bit, actually. At any given time, i've got about three sets, depending on what's happening. AutoX, track day, ice racing, snow tires, etc..
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That would depend on how much you make at work compared to what a kid would charge to gut your grass. If you make $20/hour at work and a kid will do the lawn for $10/hour, work an extra hour at work per week and use the $20 earned ($30 if it's OT and you get time and a half) to pay the kid $10 to cut your grass and you can keep the other $5 (the other $5 goes to uncle sam).
Kids around here want $20-$30 and do **** work. I hurt my knee in a car accident 4ish years ago and paid a neighborhood kid to do it... never again. I specifically asked if he had a bagging mower snice the grass had gotten high and asked him to do the trim work. He said that he did have a bagging mower and had a string trimmer to do the trim etc.
I came home to a yard that had been mowed with a mulching mower and no trim work... I had left the money in my mailbox for him and he had taken it. I went to his house, got his father, showed him the "work" and promptly got my money back
I came home to a yard that had been mowed with a mulching mower and no trim work... I had left the money in my mailbox for him and he had taken it. I went to his house, got his father, showed him the "work" and promptly got my money back
Chris05gto
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Post up some pics when you get it installed!
The tire rack was waiting for me at the front door when I got home from work this evening. After hitting the gym I got to work. The install was simple. Just took my time to double check my measurements and make sure I got the top part level. I then found all the studs and made sure I could get all 9 holes (5 accross the top and 2 more on each side). Fortunately the folks who framed the wall did a good job and the studs were on proper 16" centers. I pre-drilled then installed with 3" lag screws then installed the lower section and side supports. The mfg specs say it can support 200lbs.... I hope they published a lower-end estimate because each wheel/tire combo is 43.6lbs and the one new tire is 23.6 which puts me @ 198!
It would have taken me quite awhile to spec-out and build something this robust. I'm glad I went ahead and bought it since I'm supporting wheels/tires vs. tires-only.
It would have taken me quite awhile to spec-out and build something this robust. I'm glad I went ahead and bought it since I'm supporting wheels/tires vs. tires-only.
nate379
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Does your door hit it? Looks like it from those angles.
(and yes... that is something I would do... spend a few hours mounting it all within 1/32" and then realize something like that)
(and yes... that is something I would do... spend a few hours mounting it all within 1/32" and then realize something like that)
meissen
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That looks really damn good! I absolutely love what you have done with your garage.
I agree, looks perfect in your garage.
Thanks... it's taken 6 years and a few reorganizations, but it's finally coming together. I got that Corvette Racing flag back when I got my first Z06 in '03. That was the inspiration to do the red/white/checkerboard.
Originally it had a few random old brown cabinets on the back wall and one sigle light bulb in the center. The walls were a very dull white that they looked grey when I started repainting. I'll have to dig up some old pics on my other laptop and make a before/after post.
EDIT: Here's the other side from this thread: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49703
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royalton10
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Corba, great looking garage you have done!
Sometimes you have to realize what you can and cannot do. All of us have seen the magazines showing the front cover where the wood working guy says, "You can build this too."
I was trying to figure out a way to get my collection of screws and nails into a more manageable configuration. I had seen the mag cover of a shop where the guy builds his own long array of bins that hold those little organizational trays. I started thinking, "I wonder if?"
I was quickly brought back to reality when I bought 2 packaged boxes of bins that could hang on a wall bracket. It has 4 rows of bins, big and small, 24 bins in all. For some time at Menards and buying lag bolts I was able to get the wall bracket attached to the wall. I stacked the bins overtop of each top. 24 bins on bottom, skip room for outlets and another 24 bins on top.
Bottom line, $65 for the bins and hanging brackets, $2 for lag bolts, an hour of shop time. Now I have a ton of bins. It only takes up 32" of wall room. I put in a total of 9 lag bolts for each unit. I way over engineered it as most would probably have just used a deck screw in each corner and called it a day. I also took the time to drill holes in the middle vertical bracket so the unit has lag bolts every 16" in the studs.
Having working units so quickly, priceless!! Yes time is money.
Thanks to everyone for the inspiration to get better organized. I am already able to find tools so much quicker. My 4 pieces of used slatwall (another project) that I put up after I spray painted them to my desired color are really paying off. Nothing worse than thinking you have the needed screws or tools but cannot find them, so you head to town to buy more to get the project done. Then you find the ones you already had shortly after the project is done. All of us have been there!
Have a great day!!
Sometimes you have to realize what you can and cannot do. All of us have seen the magazines showing the front cover where the wood working guy says, "You can build this too."
I was trying to figure out a way to get my collection of screws and nails into a more manageable configuration. I had seen the mag cover of a shop where the guy builds his own long array of bins that hold those little organizational trays. I started thinking, "I wonder if?"
I was quickly brought back to reality when I bought 2 packaged boxes of bins that could hang on a wall bracket. It has 4 rows of bins, big and small, 24 bins in all. For some time at Menards and buying lag bolts I was able to get the wall bracket attached to the wall. I stacked the bins overtop of each top. 24 bins on bottom, skip room for outlets and another 24 bins on top.
Bottom line, $65 for the bins and hanging brackets, $2 for lag bolts, an hour of shop time. Now I have a ton of bins. It only takes up 32" of wall room. I put in a total of 9 lag bolts for each unit. I way over engineered it as most would probably have just used a deck screw in each corner and called it a day. I also took the time to drill holes in the middle vertical bracket so the unit has lag bolts every 16" in the studs.
Having working units so quickly, priceless!! Yes time is money.
Thanks to everyone for the inspiration to get better organized. I am already able to find tools so much quicker. My 4 pieces of used slatwall (another project) that I put up after I spray painted them to my desired color are really paying off. Nothing worse than thinking you have the needed screws or tools but cannot find them, so you head to town to buy more to get the project done. Then you find the ones you already had shortly after the project is done. All of us have been there!
Have a great day!!
tastyratz
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The 4ft metal rack was 130, an 8 foot was almost double that.
Personally I started building a rack myself. Too many people don't seem to have enough faith in your neighborhood friendly 2x4... and they hold up your house! The amount of weight they can support is staggering.
I am just under 50 deep in lags lumber and supplies but it will be twice as big for 1/4 the cost. How hard is it to cut some 2x4's?
I also recessed the wood at 45 degree angles as to cradle the wheels and be less likely to create flat spots. Angle iron just doesn't sit well with me over time making dents from small flats touching.
I wish I went with wider flat boards for supports so I intend to add on to later allowing me to store bare rims and smaller wheels.
It probably wont take me a whole lot longer to build than to assemble a purchased one to be honest, and its a proud job well done.
Personally I started building a rack myself. Too many people don't seem to have enough faith in your neighborhood friendly 2x4... and they hold up your house! The amount of weight they can support is staggering.
I am just under 50 deep in lags lumber and supplies but it will be twice as big for 1/4 the cost. How hard is it to cut some 2x4's?
I also recessed the wood at 45 degree angles as to cradle the wheels and be less likely to create flat spots. Angle iron just doesn't sit well with me over time making dents from small flats touching.
I wish I went with wider flat boards for supports so I intend to add on to later allowing me to store bare rims and smaller wheels.
It probably wont take me a whole lot longer to build than to assemble a purchased one to be honest, and its a proud job well done.
hdvato
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Again time = money and in this case the money saved doing it myself vs. the cost to purchse wasn't worth the DIY. I don't have any spare bed frames... I'd have to spend time searching goodwill or salvation army for them, then go get them, then go buy tools to cut the metal, then spend time planning/designing/fabbing.
I have multiple sets of race wheels/tires, a 20x20 2-car garage, and I don't like my $1200 Hoosiers and rare forged Z06 wheel sets sitting outside for someone to take and for the hot/cold fluctuations to deteriorate the rubber. Plus I don't like schlepping them into my back yard one at a time to put them in my shed.
As for projects... I have my track car to maintain prep vs. spend my time running around fabbing a tire rack... and a kitchen floor to finish tiling.
Maybe I should stop paying Hoosier and start growing rubber trees.... I mean how much do rubber tree seeds cost?
^^^^^^^^ What he said.
Personally I wanted something that fit the design theme of the garage so I went with this setup. FWIW it's not 4'... it's 66" which is 5.5'.
As for flat spots etc.... it won't do anything that won't come out in the first heat cycle when you drive. That's of no concern to me.
As for flat spots etc.... it won't do anything that won't come out in the first heat cycle when you drive. That's of no concern to me.
I agree 100%. I would have used 2x4s if I had them to use at the time. I had the angle iron laying around so I went at it. Good job.
tastyratz
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Took about a days time and $40 or so in materials.
Yes it is too close to the door and the side door does not open without hitting its new rubber stop. My solution will be to laminate a 2x6 to the 2x4 cross support above the door lifting the wheels another 1.5 inches (plenty of clearance)
I also spaced the beams 17in smallest diameter. If I did it again I would also use construction adhesive and space 15in so I could hold 17in bare rims...
The rack is internally 8 feet long with 10 foot beams on the wall. The beams are lagged to the wall and the rest of it is held together with gusset plates and drywall/decking screws. 1 1/4 screws for the plates and 2 1/2 screws for just holding the wood. It's enough to hold 10 wheels and tires and support my weight hanging off of the end (although I don't like how it feels with ME on the end AND the rims it DOES hold.)
I mortised the slots for cross beams using a shallow set circular saw (don't try that at home)
This was made 90% with just a miter saw and screw gun. I made SURE to predrill EVERY hole or the wood would split.
Center beams are 8 feet right from home depot uncut. I added 2 support wedges underneath to reduce flex/sag and retain integrity. Now all the snow tires for my car and the wifes are not stealing shop space.
Yes it is too close to the door and the side door does not open without hitting its new rubber stop. My solution will be to laminate a 2x6 to the 2x4 cross support above the door lifting the wheels another 1.5 inches (plenty of clearance)
I also spaced the beams 17in smallest diameter. If I did it again I would also use construction adhesive and space 15in so I could hold 17in bare rims...
The rack is internally 8 feet long with 10 foot beams on the wall. The beams are lagged to the wall and the rest of it is held together with gusset plates and drywall/decking screws. 1 1/4 screws for the plates and 2 1/2 screws for just holding the wood. It's enough to hold 10 wheels and tires and support my weight hanging off of the end (although I don't like how it feels with ME on the end AND the rims it DOES hold.)
I mortised the slots for cross beams using a shallow set circular saw (don't try that at home)
This was made 90% with just a miter saw and screw gun. I made SURE to predrill EVERY hole or the wood would split.
Center beams are 8 feet right from home depot uncut. I added 2 support wedges underneath to reduce flex/sag and retain integrity. Now all the snow tires for my car and the wifes are not stealing shop space.