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Kansas carriage house garage

ksgar

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My wife and I have lived in the same house in eastern Kansas since the late 70's. Her requirements were that the design of the garage would need to be consistent with our house...of course I agreed. My main requirements were plenty of space for cars and our smaller toy hauler, having a 2nd story for a game room, and finding the best location for the garage on our heavily wooded 6.5 acre lot, which is sloping, somewhat narrow, and long.

I met with the concrete contractor (an 81 year old highly recommended by another local GJ member),we laid out the buidling site in the middle of dense foliage, and beginning in August of 2017 spent a couple of months clearing the building site, setting forms, pouring the foundation and backfilling the excavation site. We went into a hiatus during the winter of 2017/18 and resumed work with framing in late March of 2018.

At this point the garage has been framed, sided, painted, electrical and water service brought in, roofed, windows and doors installed. I have yet to install heating/air, nor have i installed a septic field for the bathrooms (one each on the first and second floor) and wet bar that I plan to also build on the second floor, and I have yet to figure out how to tap into the high pressure natural gas line that services our house to feed the eventual hvac system that we hope to install. I have installed electrical outlets on the first floor, overhead lighting, and insulation around the perimeter of the first floor.

I intend to continue working on the first floor before starting the work on the 2nd floor. I hope to install either race deck or swiss track flooring on the first floor (I have race deck flooring in the garage attached to the house, and I like it ok), a 2 post asymmetrical lift, and sheet rock the walls. Most of this work will resume in March when it starts to warm up. Without heat, the ambient temperature in the garage rarely gets below 32 but it rarely gets above 45 during the winter months.

In any event, I have included pictures of our home, our current attached garage (you can see how crowded it is) and the new detached garage. Hopefully I will have some time to provide pictures of the past construction phases, and will definitely include pictures of future efforts going forward. However, I am somewhat long in the tooth and approach things more slowly that I used to when I was younger, so you will need to be patient with me. BTW, I have certainly benefited from following other GJ members posts in the past and hopefully I can provide some meager contributions to others who are embarking on a similar journey.

My biggest shortfalls to-date have been that I did a crappy job thinking through aspects of electrical wiring and providing for hvac...at least in terms of locating the electrical panel, wiring home runs, providing for hvac ducting, etc. I am able to overcome these problems by throwing more money at the project than would otherwise be the case if I had thought things through better.

Anyway, back to the Saints/Eagles game....here are a few pictures of the house, current garage, and the new detached garage. And, mea culpa, these are cell phone pictures so the quality is somewhat lacking.
 

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ksgar

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Here are a few pictures of the garage attached to the house. It's a 4 car garage, 3 bays wide with the right-most bay being 2 deep, and a 10' alcove off the end of the right-most bay directly behind the wall at the end of the middle bay. It's crammed with stuff and this is the basic problem we are trying to solve by building a new detached garage.

We have 4 cars, a 4 wheeler, a Polaris side-by-side, two dirt bikes and a garden tractor stored in this garage. In addition, I also stored several hundred board feet of walnut milled from one of our trees, a table saw, mitre saw, 12" plane, a couple of tool chests, a stick welder and a 1927 Kelvinator refrigerator with a combination lock that I have never been able to open in the garage. We also cram a few hibiscus trees into the aisles over the winter...I lose about half of them before good weather returns. Oh, and our Alaskan Malamute spends his evenings at the end of the alcove, secured by a tall steel fence. He does double duty at the house and garage dog, and between meals he snacks on acorns, wild turkey droppings and cat turds (if we forget to close the door to room containing the cat's litter box).

I rented a tracked skid steer Bobcat and cleared off the small brush in August of 2017 to the point where we could get a Cat track loader in to drop the large trees (most of which had died due to oak wilt) and dig the trench for the footings. As luck would have it we hit a ledge of sandstone at the depth that we wanted to place the footings. The only issue was that we had to use a hammer drill to drill holes to set the vertical rebar sections in. Then our contractor brought roughly 200 aluminum forms that we used to form the walls. I helped him tie the rebar and set the forms as he is 81 years old and I felt guilty watching him carry all the forms. Sorry, I forgot to mention in my initial post that the new garage is roughly 44 x 44 with 12 foot ceilings over the car bay, and an 18 foot ceiling over the RV bay. There are 30' retaining walls projecting out from the front of the garage to help control water as the garage sits sideways on a 8 degree west facing slope.
 

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Looking good, KSGAR! What part of eastern KS are you in? The better question is wether or not you're in Johnson County but I would guess not, seeing the land size.

I'm in very south JoCo and have been wanting to talk with someone who has built a JoCo attached or detached garage as I'm planning to build an RV sized garage bay onto my house.
 

Kburk09

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Central Kansan here! I like the forest view from your property. My view is a bit more boring but it goes on for miles....
 
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ksgar

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Havent posted for a while but have still been working on finishing the garage. Here are a couple pictures of the 2nd story bar/game room that we are close to finishing. BTW...we are located in the Topeka Kansas area.
 

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