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I need to pick up one of these rethread kits and I know that the Mac, Snap On, and Craftsman is the Kastar 971. I looked on amazon and the Kastar 971 is about $64. In the Snap On catalog its $138. Now what I would like to know if Kastar has a warranty program or would I have to buy it from Snap On to get that. I know from talking to my dealer that it is under warranty from them. I typically buy my extractors and such from Snap On because its nice to be able to get replacements no questions ask. Has anyone ever dealt with Kastar?

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From what I have figure out. craftsman will not cover them whatsoever, and from what I've heard Lang will only cover them if there's obvious material flaw but not for miss use. Snapon is the only one that no question asked has always replaced them for me.
 

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Some have been able to warranty individual pieces at Sears (from other threads on the forum). However, your mileage may vary. For $50 at sears, you can pickup '3' for the price of one Snap On set.
 

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I have a couple of the Cman sets. I use them A LOT. I have yet to damage any of them.

I see no reason to buy the SO ones.

I spend the money on SO extractors and what not (even though they are Irwin Hanson) as those actually break and I can warranty no problem.

I will buy used SO stuff on the bay for the price of new Irwin.
 

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well... I have no idea what kind of warranty policy Sears or Amazon has, but:

As a buyer for a retail chain of auto parts stores, I wrote purchase orders for Kastar Tool for over 15 years. Good product line - feeler gauges, mostly... some other oddball "fix it" items like your "thread restorer kit".
I had absolutely NO problem either with the factory or with the manufacturers' agents who represented the line on "warranty" issues; they just wrote it up and issued us a credit.

When I got out of that business I went into outside sales and worked as an independent manufacturers' agent, and Kastar was one of the lines we represented. Good line. I believe it was a 4% or 5% commission line - which is real gravy. Wrote up a $3600 purchase order one afternoon at the "Tool Town" store up in Des Moines. (Smoky, who was the owner of the "Tool Town" chain, blew a gasket, but it was his little brother who wrote the order, so what could he do?)
Never hassled any accounts on "warranty" returns - just wrote it up and issued a credit. GAW (General Automotive Warehouse, who owned Al's Auto Supply) was probably our biggest account. The amount of "warranty" returns on Kastar was really piddly compared to some other lines like Harada Antenna or Cobra Wire & Cable. I just wrote it up - no hassle.

I suppose you could always contact the factory and see what their current policy is, but when I was selling it we didn't hassle the customer on "warranty".

Good line. Kastar is OE on tons of stuff peddled under various names - all those laminated double-end ratcheting box wrenches are made by Kastar - every one of them. They also make most of the feeler gauges sold by most other companies, as well as those "thread fixer" deals and the snap-ring pliers.

Just my two cents. YMMV.
 
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My concern is that if I buy the low cost non branded version I'll be stuck not being able to get replacements. I use my tools for a living and being able to hand things to the snap on guy and say, give me a new one is awesome.

But its good to know that most people dont have any problems with theirs breaking. I have an old no name set that I have destroyed. Which is why I'm concerned about replacement
 

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Do what I did, buy the bigger Cman version, then replace broken ones with individual Snap On ones. I messed up a 9/16 male redoing my F250 lug nuts.... new warrantied snap on one was like 3 bucks shipped... best of both worlds! That is also the only one I have messed up using it a lot on rusted **** here.
 

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Do what I did, buy the bigger Cman version, then replace broken ones with individual Snap On ones. I messed up a 9/16 male redoing my F250 lug nuts.... new warrantied snap on one was like 3 bucks shipped... best of both worlds! That is also the only one I have messed up using it a lot on rusted **** here.

How did you do this? Did you just order the piece from Snap On's website? I have a couple taps I need to replace but I don't need to buy all the sizes I just need 2-3.
 

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My concern is that if I buy the low cost non branded version I'll be stuck not being able to get replacements. I use my tools for a living and being able to hand things to the snap on guy and say, give me a new one is awesome.

But the Snap On guy won't have individual replacements either. He'll have to order it regardless. So you'll be waiting a while for replacements regardless.

I say get the cheap version, and buy snap on one's if they break.
 
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But the Snap On guy won't have individual replacements either. He'll have to order it regardless. So you'll be waiting a while for replacements regardless.

I say get the cheap version, and buy snap on one's if they break.

That makes a lot of sense to do it that way. The 100% Snap On markup is more than the cost of replacing a reasonable amount of the tools. Which would come from Snap On any how

Thanks to everyone for the advice
 

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okay...

I just got off the phone with a guy at Lang Tool, who is the parent company of Kastar.

If you want a single piece out of that 971 set, you're going to have to get it from a distributor. The individual pieces are available, but you're probably going to have to special-order it.

He suggested this company: http://www.medcocorp.com/

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The shipp& handling is gonna make SO the winner if the singles game

the unit prices for the ones likely to break and in the $3-5 range

uneless ths diributor does free shipping :thumbup:
 

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Do what I did, buy the bigger Cman version, then replace broken ones with individual Snap On ones. I messed up a 9/16 male redoing my F250 lug nuts.... new warrantied snap on one was like 3 bucks shipped... best of both worlds! That is also the only one I have messed up using it a lot on rusted **** here.

I just did this with a M4 x 1 tap. It cost me $4.00, delivered to my door.
 

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I have this set from Cman and had an issue with it right out of the box (one of the 4-sided files was very visibly bent). One quick call to Kastar and a replacement was on it's way. I realize this isn't the same as what you're asking, but the company was very good about stepping up to support the product without any hassle of warranty, receipt, etc.
I also 100% echo what was said - go "cheap" and replace as necessary.
 

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Been searching for stuff and found this thread. Saw that Craftsman had the 48 piece but that isn't available anymore. ALMOST picked up the 40 piece set but it is close to $63 picked up locally. Then did more research and saw this Kastar/Lang 971 kit. Was going to pick that up for $66 shipped which I thought was a good deal. Then I found the Matco 51 piece kit and ended up picking that up. I believe it's identical to the 971 kit except it comes with 11 metric pieces both for the tap/die and one extra file. I figured for a couple bucks more I'd rather have more than have to source something.

I never even heard of this until I was going to run taps through my calipers but then read that it might remove more metal which is not what I want. I just want to clean the threads that are 12 years old and have dirt/grime/rust/corrosion in them.

I don't use my Matco Tap/Die set often but when I have used it, it's become apparent how valuable it is. I can only imagine the thread restorer/rethread kit is going to be used way more especially to clean up bolts.

I can post a picture when I get it. Edit: Found a picture online:


-Nigel
 

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Been searching for stuff and found this thread. Saw that Craftsman had the 48 piece but that isn't available anymore. ALMOST picked up the 40 piece set but it is close to $63 picked up locally. Then did more research and saw this Kastar/Lang 971 kit. Was going to pick that up for $66 shipped which I thought was a good deal. Then I found the Matco 51 piece kit and ended up picking that up. I believe it's identical to the 971 kit except it comes with 11 metric pieces both for the tap/die and one extra file. I figured for a couple bucks more I'd rather have more than have to source something.

I never even heard of this until I was going to run taps through my calipers but then read that it might remove more metal which is not what I want. I just want to clean the threads that are 12 years old and have dirt/grime/rust/corrosion in them.

I don't use my Matco Tap/Die set often but when I have used it, it's become apparent how valuable it is. I can only imagine the thread restorer/rethread kit is going to be used way more especially to clean up bolts.

I can post a picture when I get it. Edit: Found a picture online:


-Nigel
Easy decision. Lang, formerly Kastar makes virtually all of them. They definitely make the SnapOn, the other truck brands, and Sears. You will find them under their own names (Lang and Kastar)and rebranded. There are small and more complete sets. Figure out what you need and buy it where you get the best price. These chaser taps and dies have been discussed here a number of times.There are other manufacturers but most come from L/K.

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That's the thing I don't know what I need/don't need so I wanted to get the most complete set which was the Matco at 51 pieces that I could see. Plus I don't like having loose tools/bits laying around so the fact that the blow mold case holds everything to me is icing on the cake, it's made by Lang/Kastar so no worries. Picked it up used which looks brand new on Ebay for just a couple bucks more than what the 48 piece Kastar goes for. If I do see that I need to get other bits I will and hopefully have a better understanding of which ones are used all the time.

-Nigel
 

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Might want to look at this thread.
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=371475&highlight=individual+replacement

I would go KASTAR. If you can't get a warranty replacement from snap on shipped to house a little over $4 thats what I did I didn't even try to warranty it cause when I broke it was my fault.
If you buy one piece online from Snap On shipping is free, no minimum. I bought a 12mm chaser tap from them and I think it was like 2 and change. They are actually under the Blue point label. Individually that is the cheapest place to get them, with the free shipping. I actually don't see too many other places with open stock on these. At that price I wouldn't worry about warranty.


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So with browsing the Snap on Site why *don't they have other sizes like 13mm, 9mm, 7mm?

Most kits have 14mm, 12mm, 11mm, 10mm, 8mm, 6mm. Is there an reason for this? I can't imagine that those bolts/threads can't get messed up...etc.

-Nigel
 
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So with browsing the Snap on Site why doesn't they have other sizes like 13mm, 9mm, 7mm?

Most kits have 14mm, 12mm, 11mm, 10mm, 8mm, 6mm. Is there an reason for this? I can't imagine that those bolts/threads can't get messed up...etc.

-Nigel

I would think they are offering the most common sizes/pitches. I have yet to run across a M7, M9 or M13.

Seen a lot of M3, M4, M5, M6, M8, M10, M12, M14, M18 ... what annoys me more is that there are multiple thread pitches for M10 and M12, and sometimes sets don't have the one you want.
 

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That's the thing I don't know what I need/don't need so I wanted to get the most complete set which was the Matco at 51 pieces that I could see.

Plus I don't like having loose tools/bits laying around so the fact that the blow mold case holds everything to me is icing on the cake, it's made by Lang/Kastar so no worries.

Picked it up used which looks brand new on Ebay for just a couple bucks more than what the 48 piece Kastar goes for. If I do see that I need to get other bits I will and hopefully have a better understanding of which ones are used all the time.

-Nigel

So with browsing the Snap on Site why *don't they have other sizes like 13mm, 9mm, 7mm?

Most kits have 14mm, 12mm, 11mm, 10mm, 8mm, 6mm. Is there an reason for this? I can't imagine that those bolts/threads can't get messed up...etc.

-Nigel

If you need / want an extra blow molded case to store additional taps & dies or maybe an all metric set - Give what Jaw Manufacturing Co has to offer a look

Rethreading Tap, Die & File Sets


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