Kevin54's....."The Addition"

[captain14]

Strouty,

Do you change avatars by the minute? I just read another thread and you had the girls there

 

[Strouty]

I have an automated program that does it, right now the setting is on "annoy and confuse".

 

[JC23]

I have an automated program that does it, right now the setting is on "annoy and confuse".

BULL!

Tampa is doing it remotely with a Commodore 64!

 

[NUTTSGT]

It's not a leaching system of any type other than off of the pond as far as I can figure. And when I took a shower, used the stool a few times, the wife taking her shower, and some laundry, no more water came out. Plus the fact that it is in solid clay tells me it isn't part of the leach bed. If it was, it wouldn't have been buried that deep, and it would have had to have some gravel around it plus a sock. I had problems with the pond ever since we bought the house in '93, and an abandoned tile was always suspected as the cause of the leak, but no one could locate one. I did have one flat spot in the pond though when I drained it down at one time that looked unusual, and I thought it was where a tile came in from the house gutters, but I'm sure it was an overflow now that got plugged because there is no exit to the tile anywhere. And being that the tile is in solid clay, there would be no way that it would ever leach anyways. The black water, as far as I know, is just old pond water and pond muck that has been in there for a few years. Once you smelled the pond when it drained, there was no mistaking that smell. I'm not going to worry about it, and just dump a bag or two of sakrete where the end of it is

As far as plugging it, I hope the sakrete works out and you have no other issues. There's another product out there, I forget what it's called but it's white and becomes almost impervious when mixed with water. They sometimes use it to seal around fuel tanks. I'll probably think of it inthe middle of the night and wake up.

By looking at the pictures, the area around you appear to be reasonably flat. I'm curious as to why there is a tile to the pond that's buried that deep and an 8" tile. Unless of course, somebody accidently put a pond through an old field tile. If you had some land with a nice drop off, I could see the tile being buried that deep as it runs downhill toward the lower elevation. Beats the hell out of me, but maybe a pond building expert will chime in ??

 

[Kevin54]

As far as plugging it, I hope the sakrete works out and you have no other issues. There's another product out there, I forget what it's called but it's white and becomes almost impervious when mixed with water. They sometimes use it to seal around fuel tanks. I'll probably think of it inthe middle of the night and wake up.

By looking at the pictures, the area around you appear to be reasonably flat. I'm curious as to why there is a tile to the pond that's buried that deep and an 8" tile. Unless of course, somebody accidently put a pond through an old field tile. If you had some land with a nice drop off, I could see the tile being buried that deep as it runs downhill toward the lower elevation. Beats the hell out of me, but maybe a pond building expert will chime in ??

In speaking with the neighbor behind me, she moved in around '85, and our house was built in '88. Where our house, and the others are sitting, used to be farm field. She remembers when the pond was put in and sort of remembers the owner of our house talking about hitting a tile when they dig the pond. I also remember that when we cut down our yard when we filled in one third of the pond, we went down almost 4 feet, and at that time, I remember now that we hit a tile on the backside of the pond, and talked about it then that it may have been an old field tile, and that may have been one source of the pond leaking. I didn't remember until the wife and I were talking about it last evening.

Aside from that, the Quikrete worked, and also the water had quit trickling out of it. No matter how much water was ran in the house, no more came out of the tiles, which was a reassuring thought. I also have some hellish stone that was down when I had a gravel drive. If the stone is damp, it will compact just like concrete, seriously. So we took the mini excavator and loosened some of it up, dropped in the trench, then took a plate compactor and compacted the **** out of it where the two tiles were. Before that, we had worked the Quikrete back into the tiles. We used one bag per broken end. So now I won't have to worry about any water if it would happen to get into the tiles.

Things are good to go for the inspection later this morning. The bad.....I won't be here, and momma isn't too happy about having to answer any questions the inspector may have. He calls between 8 and 9, and will inspect before 11:00. I have to be in Columbus by 8:00 for a docs appointment, and they are very strict about cell phones in the office, which is understandable. So hopefully I'll get there early, get in and right back out as it's only a follow-up. If I can get out before 8:30, I can still get the call. My fault that I didn't give the inspector our home phone, as any calls I make, I always use my cell number. And Craig lives out of town, he has a rented trailer and the mini excavator loaded, and it has to be back in his town and dropped off by 9:00am. The bad with that......his truck quit running last night when he was getting ready to leave, but he has another truck down here, but not large enough to pull the CAT, and the trailer. So I have to call him at 6:00am so he can come down, get his truck and equipment, get it back, and turn around and get back down here so he can possibly talk to the inspector. BTW......his truck is a 6.5 diesel, and when it gets hot, it won't start. If it sets overnight, it will start right up. I'm thinking he has some fuel issues

So we'll see how this morning pans out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that all goes well, but if it doesn't, then we'll either have to reschedule the inspection, or fix what he doesn't like. I should pass though, hopefully, maybe, I'm sure of it, possibly.

Then if that passes, quite possibly we can pour the footers this afternoon, or at least get the mix ordered for first thing in the morning. We lost a lot of time yesterday moving dirt so the concrete truck can get in to pour. We probably hauled 11 large trailer loads of dirt, in a very heavy duty 6x12 dump bed. But I think the battery was bad for the dump bed as we had to keep throwing the charger on it every other load so we could dump. Then it takes time to load it also. This is the same trailer the mini excavator is now sitting in. I told Craig that I really hope the rest of the garage, when we start framing doesn't have problems like we have had so far. But things did go better today, plus we got a lot cleaned up as far as the dirt, got it hauled off to the neighbors pasture that I mow, to fill in low spots. Also the neighbors son, may have a job helping (paying job) as he wants to help out with the concrete, plus he is interested in the framing also, so that is good. Craigs helper is supposed to be back by the end of the week as he's been out of state on another job. I have a feeling though that it may just be Craig, the neighbors son, and I doing the most of this build, and I'm limited on some things, so we'll see. But if that is the way it goes, then I will come in under the $35,000 originally set.

 

[dlcwent]

Good luck with everything today Kevin. I'm sure the mrs. will do fine with the inspector.
Hope the doctors visit also goes well for you. You deserve a break.

 

[Hounddog]

Back in the day they use to run all the sewer out to a "Lagoon" with a red tile.....Maybe there was one out there.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Glad to hear the tile should be a non issue Kevin but it does **** knowing that a farmer put that in to have some drainage for his fields and somebody hit it while putting in a pond.

BTW, the stuff I couldn't remember the name of is bentonite.

 

[drivesitfar]

Kevin: always interesting reading your posts. good luck today and i hope everything keeps moving forward.

happy to hear you have your sense of humor and it sounds like the guy helping you build this addition could use a good mechanic. any mechanics out there need a good contractor might PM Kevin so you can be next in line to get a garage built and keep Kevin's guy's rigs running so Kevin's job will go a little smoother. just a thought and wishing you the best.

Riv: so how long did it take for you to move the 60 yards of dirt with the excavator or how did you end up turning the water off. i had to laugh at your post, but in my gut i kinda knew how you felt. any pictures??

 

[1Garageman]

When do the touring tickets go on sale?
I can't wait to see what this will look like in the end!

 

[Kevin54]

Glad to hear the tile should be a non issue Kevin but it does **** knowing that a farmer put that in to have some drainage for his fields and somebody hit it while putting in a pond.

BTW, the stuff I couldn't remember the name of is bentonite.

Eric......they tried bentonite, and it never did stop the pond leak. We kept it filled out of a secondary well. We actually became to be known as the people that bought the house with "the pond". I guess when the guy wanted it made, he was told by everyone that the pond would never hold water as there was no natural runoff, but he built on anyways. Anyways, I'm sort of glad I found what I did, and know what I believe I know about it now.

Now I'm just waiting on the inspector, and if that is a go, then footers get poured at 8:00am in the morn

 

[Kevin54]

Drive.....you have to have a sense of humor. I learned a long time ago that it doesn't do any good to get mad at what goes wrong, it only drives your blood pressure up. And after the years of dealing with my wife's cancer, dealing with my parents, dealing with my POS sisters that turned their back on me, then dealing with my surgeries, you have to sort of laugh at anything that goes wrong, because none of it will ever be as bad as when I went off my nut.

 

[drivesitfar]

Kevin: good attitude. have you posted pictures of this infamous pond?

crossing fingers and toes first inspection gets ok'd.

cheers

 

[TAMPAGT07]

BULL!

Tampa is doing it remotely with a Commodore 64!

Commodore's down, back on the TRS-80...

 

[TAMPAGT07]

Other than that, I don't have a good name for it, other than "The Addition". This has been a year coming, but do to being jacked around by contractors and such, it didn't happen last year. Yesterday was the official start. All of my permits were in line and good to go. So right now I only have a few pics as we ran into some problems today. The concrete guy that is building it....from now on I will call him Craig......has had some diesel problems, then this afternoon when we were loading up asphalt a tire exploded. No hiss, just a loud BANG, and shot gravel everywhere including into my face, but no bleeding. It did shoot it into my garage though about 28'. Luckily no one got hurt, he got a tire, and we will be ready to get back at it in the morning. BUt for now, I will show the before pics, and will show pics as we progress.

For the ones that don't know, I have had quotes all over the place. Finally I called my concrete guy, and he wanted to bid the complete job. We came to a final price of $35,000 for a 7'x24' bumpout, and a 28'x36' addition on the front. I ended up being the GC on it which I didn't want to be, but it does give me control over a few things. I'll keep updating whatever problems we run into , but so far, other than the few problems with the truck and BobCat, everything should be fairly straight forward. So with that......here are a few pics. They start out with what the garage is currently looking like, and if I don't forget, I'll keep posting each progress pic. BTW....the current garage is 28' deep x 36' wide with a 6' overhang on the front and side.

Hey Kevin, the second picture in this post looks like the back of a green Snuffleufogas.... Or is that just some trees?

 

[1949 caddyman]

Kevin, the no start on the 6.2L , if its a GM diesel it sounds like the injection pump driver. It is the black box mounted on the pass. side of the electronic injection pump. Spraying it with water some times will cool it enough for it to start. They make a relocation kit to move it to a cooler location but as I worked at GM dealer we put new driver or injection pump on the ones we had.

 

[Kevin54]

Kevin, the no start on the 6.2L , if its a GM diesel it sounds like the injection pump driver. It is the black box mounted on the pass. side of the electronic injection pump. Spraying it with water some times will cool it enough for it to start. They make a relocation kit to move it to a cooler location but as I worked at GM dealer we put new driver or injection pump on the ones we had.

Caddy....would the 6.5 be the same as the 6.2? Craig has a 6.5 with a turbo.

 

[Kevin54]

Footers passed inspection

 

[Thumper68]

Caddy....would the 6.5 be the same as the 6.2? Craig has a 6.5 with a turbo.

Yes it is the same, the water trick works well, I would not use a relocation kit, the fuel flowing is designed to keep it cool. Once it starts to have issues it is time to order a replacement and do the deed. Not that bad of a job to do.

 

[Thumper68]

Footers passed inspection

Awesome you will be watching the shingles go on in no time. Things really start to go fast once the foundation is done.

 

[Scott V]

"..and up through the ground came a bubbling crude....oil that is...black gold...Texas tea...." LOL

Good luck Kevin- will be following along.

 

[1949 caddyman]

Caddy....would the 6.5 be the same as the 6.2? Craig has a 6.5 with a turbo.

Yes it is the 6.5. Been a long time since I did one. I looked up a picture. The driver is on the drivers side of the injection pump. Only the electronic pump ones have the driver on them, 1994 and up to 2002 have this. Its the black rectctangular box on the side of the pump in the pic.

 

[Streetbu]

Yep,they make coolers for them too IIRC.

 

[captain14]

Great . Two members here are waiting for concrete work to start in the morning.

Good luck.

 

[Strouty]

Kevin, if the guy still has the diesel power plastic cover on the engine, it should be removed and thrown away. I would not pour cold water on the pump, but buy a bag of ice and put it on it. That seems to keep the cold there longer. He can order a new one from ebay, but I would look for the newer grey ones. The reason most people put them on a cooler is that it is impossible to put the new one on the pump without removing the intake at a minimum. They make a kit that mounts to the intake so you just unplug the old one and install it with the same harness. They are call PMDs or FSDs, pump mounted driver or fuel solenoid driver. The injection pump is the ideal location as the cool fuel flows right where it is mounted, GM screwed up by adding the cover to the engine as it holds all the heat in. If he does change it he will also need a resistor, they should be easily available on eBay as well. Some PMDs will come with them, they slide in the connector before you plug in the harness. Without the resistor, it will fail again.

 

[Kevin54]

Caddy.....the engine is the 6.5 and it is in a 2000. I don't see a box like you show, but here are some pics of the engine showing what is under the hood.

 

[Kevin54]

I'm going to start a new thread in the Free Parking before my garage gets buried with truck troubles. See everyone in Free Parking under "Craig's Engine Trouble 6.5 diesel"

 

[drivesitfar]

Kevin: i'd never tell the best poster on GJ how to run a thread especially as many as you have started, but last time i looked at Jack's 12 gauge garage thread he and others were working on a wing on his Porsche. it's got more than a few views to say the least.

there are thousands of threads of nice garage builds and we are here on yours because we like you and what you have to say about trees, old buried pipes, contractors and their issues and such so my vote is to keep it all here and the readers will stick around and be here long after you finish your garage.

I am very happy for you that your first inspection passed and i hope the cement truck and cement guy are able to get the foundation formed and put in nicely. like others have said once the cement is in the framing and the rest seem to go pretty quickly.

best wishes.

 

[Strouty]

I agree!

 

[JC23]

Mee to!

 

[dynahoe]

onward and upward Kevin. keep up the good work

 

[Kevin54]

Footers are in and were done by 10:00 this morning. Block is here and starts going down at 7:30 in the morning. Craig is under control with his truck now, and I just finished mowing 8 acres. I feel that it's been a rather busy day today. Hopefully by next week at this time, I may just have a floor.

 

[JC23]

Rock on, Kevin!

Like they say at the ******'s Contest, we're pulling for ya!

 

[captain14]

Every little bit helps in the final goal. Footers down , block deliverd and the truck is running.

Life is good.

 

[drivesitfar]

Kevin: AWESOME!!!

 

[Richard Cranium]

I thought about calling Kevin this morning and tell him that I was his cement truck driver and I was broke down just around the corner from his house and telling him to bring his wheel borrow to get his mud...****

 

[IGO2XS]

Looks real nice Kevin. I really like your place! Congratulations on the addition.

 

[NUTTSGT]

Footers are in and were done by 10:00 this morning. Block is here and starts going down at 7:30 in the morning. Craig is under control with his truck now, and I just finished mowing 8 acres. I feel that it's been a rather busy day today. Hopefully by next week at this time, I may just have a floor.

The footers are in and . . . . seriously, no pics? I'm so disappointed.

 

[drivesitfar]

Nutt: did you also read that Kevin mowed 8 acres? i was hoping for pictures of that, but i'm not sure i could mow 8 acres in a day so maybe we better send Katie to his home to see if he is alive.

any pictures big guy and only if you have time and wish to of the footers and pond and all that land? i thought you lived in a subdivision so i'm still wondering how you have 8 acres.

Rich: you sir might have a little mean streak in you

 

[NUTTSGT]

Nutt: did you also read that Kevin mowed 8 acres? i was hoping for pictures of that, but i'm not sure i could mow 8 acres in a day so maybe we better send Katie to his home to see if he is alive.

any pictures big guy and only if you have time and wish to of the footers and pond and all that land? i thought you lived in a subdivision so i'm still wondering how you have 8 acres.

Rich: you sir might have a little mean streak in you

He probably put the wife on the mower and finished the last 15 minutes of it while she started supper for him. He's just taking the credit it.