Kevin54's....."The Addition"

[JC23]

If there's any surface cracks, they'll be covered up when Kevin gets his new mural painted on the floor. It's gonna be a collage of all GJ members' avatars. That is, everyone 'cept Tampa. He's out!

Hope I didn't ruin the surprise...

 

[drivesitfar]

Kevin: did you happen to know how thick your cement sandwich is? i'm guessing 4 inches or did you pour it 5 or 6 thinking you might end up moving a huge machine into your side of the garage some day?

I've never used sealer, but we don't get 90's and hailing the next day here.

 

[Kevin54]

Kevin: did you happen to know how thick your cement sandwich is? i'm guessing 4 inches or did you pour it 5 or 6 thinking you might end up moving a huge machine into your side of the garage some day?

I've never used sealer, but we don't get 90's and hailing the next day here.

A good solid 4"-5" and where I am going to bolt the hoist at, it is a good 8"+ with a 4' square area @ 2' on either side of center of where it bolts down.

 

[drivesitfar]

Kevin: that's good and with the roof and walls going up soon the hot summer heat won't make it crack any more.

have you decided on a hoist yet? and how high are your garage's new ceilings? I've heard some require 12 foot 2 inches for full extension, but that might be for a truck on the hoist and full standing height underneath it.

 

[Kevin54]

Kevin: that's good and with the roof and walls going up soon the hot summer heat won't make it crack any more.

have you decided on a hoist yet? and how high are your garage's new ceilings? I've heard some require 12 foot 2 inches for full extension, but that might be for a truck on the hoist and full standing height underneath it.

I have a 2 post lined up for the garage. It is a 10,000 lb. lift with a 9' height. I am putting in scissor trusses which should compensate for the height. The walls are going to be 10' walls. Calculated out, I will come in 4" under the 15' height maximum without going with a variance that can take up to 6 weeks to approve.

 

[drivesitfar]

Kevin: nice job. I've seen so many members build a 12 foot ceiling in their new garages and shops and then chopping up and rebuilding their tresses because some lifts require 12 foot 2 inches. i don't own a lift and they have done it so often that i remembered and thought i should mention it.

sounds like all you need is a little lumber and some decent weather and we all will be looking at a real garage by the 4th of July.

cheers

 

[Strouty]

Don't jinx him Drives!

 

[drivesitfar]

Strouty: no jinx just a positive post and nothing but good vibes from my chair because Kevin is doing a great job.

 

[maddog1949]

watching this project .

 

[rburke65]

Kevin54... Glad to hear you wreck ally done with all the BS. Looks like a great start. Keep us posted.

 

[Streetbu]

Looking good Kev! I bet actual building progress feels better after all the ****!

 

[Kevin54]

Looking good Kev! I bet actual building progress feels better after all the ****!

It does, and I'm really glad the foundation and slabs are done. Next week we start framing. It's supposed to rain every day this week, and so far the weathermen have been spot on when they predict rain. Let them predict sunshine though, and they can miss it 75% of the time

 

[volleyball]

Time to rent a big party tent.

 

[JC23]

Time to rent a big party tent.

He'll need to keep that for the big, gala house (garage) warming!

 

[NUTTSGT]

It does, and I'm really glad the foundation and slabs are done. Next week we start framing. It's supposed to rain every day this week, and so far the weathermen have been spot on when they predict rain. Let them predict sunshine though, and they can miss it 75% of the time

It's Monday and I'm sick of this crappy rain already. It'll be nice when you get it under roof.

 

[Ben Buck]

Kevin PM Sent

 

[Strouty]

Kevin PM Sent

Is it just me or does this always get you curious as well?

 

[Kevin54]

Kevin PM Sent

Didn't get it

 

[Strouty]

PM sent…………………..but to who?

 

[Kevin54]

Is it just me or does this always get you curious as well?

I know it gets me curious when I was sent one and didn't get it in my PM box

 

[Ben Buck]

I'm trying to send a PM to Kevin, WHO is building an ADDITION!!!

I'm offering help, he's not that far from where I'm located?

I used to work in Champaign County, I can get around!

If not I tried to help?

 

[Kevin54]

I'm trying to send a PM to Kevin, WHO is building an ADDITION!!!

I'm offering help, he's not that far from where I'm located?

I used to work in Champaign County, I can get around!

If not I tried to help?

Still ain't got it Ben, but where did you work down here? And by chance do you have a sister named Nancy?

 

[Ben Buck]

No Kevin, I'm an only.

If you can take it I'm a retired Trooper, I used to work Montgomery, Clark, and Champaign counties.

I am not ,nor have I been an A Hole while working.

I had the opportunity to work days, no weekends or holidays, doing motor vehicle inspections.

I'm offering help, but I can understand- I don't want no kind of cop around me! and or my family.

I'll just stay here and partake of suds that are available. ( My wife is a retired deputy! ) that's going to really compound things!!! Oh well

 

[sublime68charger]

Ben that's super nice for you to offer up help for Kevin
Heck I think a lot of folks here if close enough would stop. By to help out for a few hours.

Good luck hope you can get it worked out

 

[NUTTSGT]

Still ain't got it Ben,

Is your PM box full Kevin ?

 

[Kevin54]

Is your PM box full Kevin ?

Nope. I only have 340 messages in there, with half being received and half being in the sent side

 

[Kevin54]

No Kevin, I'm an only.

If you can take it I'm a retired Trooper, I used to work Montgomery, Clark, and Champaign counties.

I am not ,nor have I been an A Hole while working.

I had the opportunity to work days, no weekends or holidays, doing motor vehicle inspections.

I'm offering help, but I can understand- I don't want no kind of cop around me! and or my family.

I'll just stay here and partake of suds that are available. ( My wife is a retired deputy! ) that's going to really compound things!!! Oh well

Ben....You are more than welcome to stop by anytime, and not to work (unless you want), but stop by and just shoot the **** anytime you want I'd never refuse to have a GJ member stopping by.

BTW......I have tools!!!!!

 

[JC23]

Tools!

 

[Kevin54]

And to the tune of $2600 we now have all of the framing lumber and OSB ordered and on the way today. Trusses are going to be about 2 weeks out, and don't know about the price of those yet.

When I'm all done, I'll post up a spreadsheet of what the garage cost. I'm trying to keep track of all of the expenditures related to the garage, minus some things. Cases of beer and a porta-******* won't be listed, although a necessity

 

[Kevin54]

Just sitting here thinking ahead while watching it rain........WIRING!!!!

I don't plan on having a lot in the new addition, but I know that I need 220 for the lift, and I will need a few outlets here and there. I have a couple of outside outlets and outside lights that will now be inside that I can tie into. I'm tossing things around as to whether to surface mount things, which if I do, I can change and add as needed. This lets me finish the interior before I have to pull an electrical permit, OR.......I'd have to pull a permit and run everything through the studs.

Given the two options, which route would you go? I may just hire an electrician to do the wiring. I can do it myself, but really don't want to mess with it this go around. I don't think I am going to have any hanging lights in the ceiling either and and seriously leaning towards recessed lighting, and also changing things around in my existing garage to recessed since I have attic access.

 

[theoldwizard1]

I personally like the "industrial" look of EMT, but I'm to cheap to ever pay for it.

Recessed lighting require more fixtures. Hard to justify if you are on a tight budget. Nothing wrong with fluorescent/LED tubes especially if you have the height.

 

[Streetbu]

Not that we ever want to think about it, but at some point someone else is going to own it. I think it would be worth worth more have the wiring inside the walls than outside. Looks more presentable. Plus having it on the outside collects all sorts of dust and usually tools too as it lends itself to anything with a hook.... JMO

 

[JC23]

Kevin, have the electric done. That bad wing of yours doesn't need any more 'action.'

Remember what they say - "Pay yourself first."

 

[Kevin54]

Kevin, have the electric done. That bad wing of yours doesn't need any more 'action.'

Remember what they say - "Pay yourself first."

That's what I plan on doing as far as I know, but I am also a very impatient person I'll have to put that on the shelf I guess. I'll want to be running wire as they are framing.

 

[JC23]

OK, you can help. But you know that costs extra...

 

[bczygan]

Kevin,

In the wall is the only sane answer.

Save your shoulder and get a $10/hr kid to drill and fish, using your tools) leaving loops at all the possible future locations. You supervise onsite while he works to get perfect layout and quality.
Get your wire and supplies at Lowes, using the $10 off $50 code here:
http://renovopower.com/lowes10off50.php Buy supplies in groups of $50 online, and pick all them up at once.

Bill

 

[drivesitfar]

Kevin: it will be a lot cleaner if the wire is inside the walls and just put in a few extra runs to allow for any future needs in case you end up moving the cars outside again (or at least yours).

i'm not sure you can find a dependable kid or young person in our area that will work for $10 that can give you 60 minutes of work without texting or sitting down. if you can i'd like to find a few for my Honey Do and Organizing lists. only requirement is to be honest, decent attitude and ENGLISH speaking or at least a few words.

not sure what to tell you about lighting. I've never had much luck with the long florescent bulbs, but I've always had old fixtures. maybe check into LED because I've heard some good things about them and then have you magnifying glass type light or some special clipping lights with the 150-200 watt bulbs for those times when you need more light.

cheers and good luck

 

[Thumper68]

My thought on the electric would be to put it in the walls and over build, in my shop on the wood working side I have outlets every 4 feet at bench height on 2 circuts leap frogging so no two outlets next to each other are on the same circuit or leg.

On the other side the out lets are every 6 feet. I would put some in the ceiling as well for future use.

It is so much easier to run wire now than in the future.

 

[Kevin54]

Drives......I have help anytime I need it from my neighbors son. With them and I it's a trade labor thing. I help them anytime they need it, and in turn they help me. Plus they are the ones that I mow the 5 acre pasture (lawn) once or twice a week for free. Ashton (the son) currently lives with his mom, and wants to learn all he can about construction, although "Physical Therapy" is what he has studied. He is planning on getting back into it later this year, and has to take about a three hour test for it, and needs to study. So I have to take advantage of his free time when I can

I may just put the electric in the wall. I can drill the holes, mount the boxes, and I'll get a licensed electrician to do all of the pulling and wiring.

 

[Kevin54]

My thought on the electric would be to put it in the walls and over build, in my shop on the wood working side I have outlets every 4 feet at bench height on 2 circuts leap frogging so no two outlets next to each other are on the same circuit or leg.

On the other side the out lets are every 6 feet. I would put some in the ceiling as well for future use.

It is so much easier to run wire now than in the future.

I will definitely have some outlets in the ceiling. In my garage now, I have outlets in all four corners. plus I took out some surface mounted lights, added corded fluorescents, and changed the boxes over to outlets. I have my stereo, a TV, and my traffic light hooked into the ceiling outlets in the corners. I also have a few wall outlets mounted high up, just for a lit sign, and for an electric clock. Never can have too many outlets.