Kevin54's....."The Addition"
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Zeke
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I think Kevin deserves a big YOU **** for that really nice addition.
Very nicely done. Did I miss your plan for the little cmenet pad behind the bump out? Now that you're pretty much done, I don't mind if you stopped by for a couple of weeks to help me build a shed for SWMBO.
I think I missed those same plans.
It looks great Kevin. I think you spent more time chasing/haggling with contractors than it did to get it built.
Sunbimmer
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Thanks everyone, and I'll graciously accept a YOU ****. I've never had one before.
Extremek and Eric......when I first started out, I wasn't going to have a pad as I was going to move my propane tank. But it has always sat there, so I figured a pad would serve two tanks, which two will just fit on there. One will be for the existing garage, and one is for the new addition. I have to buy a heater for the new addition now and buy the copper line to run it, which will be just right at 70' in length.
The more I look at the garage from different areas in the yard, and from seeing it from across the road, the more I like it. Of course it will look WAY better when the porta-******* gets picked up for removal.
They just don't blend in too well into the landscaping 
Tomorrow I call for my inspection, which includes the final inspection. I may not pass, and I don't want to say I will and jinx myself, although I am optimistic that it will. Once that passes, then I have to apply for an electrical permit so that I can get that portion done and out of the way. Outlets will be going about every 6' on the walls, one each for garage door openers, and a few higher up for any signs, television, and stereo. I think my lighting will be recessed can lights so that I don't have anything (lights) hanging down from the ceiling at all. I'd like to have everything done on the inside by the end of October.
Extremek and Eric......when I first started out, I wasn't going to have a pad as I was going to move my propane tank. But it has always sat there, so I figured a pad would serve two tanks, which two will just fit on there. One will be for the existing garage, and one is for the new addition. I have to buy a heater for the new addition now and buy the copper line to run it, which will be just right at 70' in length.
The more I look at the garage from different areas in the yard, and from seeing it from across the road, the more I like it. Of course it will look WAY better when the porta-******* gets picked up for removal.
They just don't blend in too well into the landscaping Tomorrow I call for my inspection, which includes the final inspection. I may not pass, and I don't want to say I will and jinx myself, although I am optimistic that it will. Once that passes, then I have to apply for an electrical permit so that I can get that portion done and out of the way. Outlets will be going about every 6' on the walls, one each for garage door openers, and a few higher up for any signs, television, and stereo. I think my lighting will be recessed can lights so that I don't have anything (lights) hanging down from the ceiling at all. I'd like to have everything done on the inside by the end of October.
1Garageman
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That is one awesome amazing build you just did!
I passed the final inspection with flying colors I get my C of O in the mail the first of next week 
Now I move on to electrical as soon as I get the outside restained, and a couple of machining jobs knocked out that have been on the back burner for a while now. My apologies on that
But I'm stoked that I passed the final inspection. I had a couple worries, but everything was fine according to the inspector, and that is all that counts.
I did go over budget a little bit. But a lot of it was some things that were not figured in, or the price went up some. I was off on the siding amount by $900. I budgeted $3600, and siding was $4500. Just the stain alone was a tick under $1000. Then I budgeted for 2x12 headers and we went with LVL's instead. Money paid out for extra help wasn't figured in, and I had close to $800 in that to Ashton for helping me when he wasn't helping Dan and Craig. Then I had the extra sidewalks, larger apron, and a new section under the overhang which came up to $2900. And there were the little things that just shocked me. Siding nails was $10/lb. and I had 15#'s for a cost of $150. Caulking, "J" channel, and various little things that all cost $25 or more. Two door knobs were $150. All in all, I had figured $35,000 to build the garage, and my final cost for the garage was just under $45,000. But I'm pleased with the cost. That is still $12,000 less than another quote I had and $8,000 less than a quote from a second contractor. Labor for building the garage was right on at $16,000 even though I had to help by cutting all of the wood. I did figure all of the lumber though which a few members said I couldn't do since I'm not a contractor, nor do I know how to estimate a cost because I'm not qualified, but I haven't seen those members around lately
We had less scrap than most builds, and the largest scrap was a few cutoff pieces of OSB from the roof, and scrap ends of siding where the ends were split, or they were the opposite ends of the angle cuts that could not be used. As far as the dimensional lumber, they were the cutoff ends of the studs. In total we had less than a shortbed pickup of scrap. Not bad figuring for a rookie. And yes......I'ma braggin' on that. Just for the siding, I was 7 1/2 pieces short and had to go back and get some that morning. Those were for one gable end to finish it. 19 square in total to cover the garage.If anyone has any questions on a breakdown cost of a 28'x36'x10' tall garage, just ask away.
E.rodz
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Kevin nice job and congrats on the build! looks great! now its time to get this sucker wired up and fill it up!
drivesitfar
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Kevin: congrats on the final permit stamping. looks great and how does your wife like it?
did you already move stuff into the bump out or were you waiting for the final permit approval.
well done and if you want to build another detached garage you know really have the skills and knowhow.
cheers
did you already move stuff into the bump out or were you waiting for the final permit approval.
well done and if you want to build another detached garage you know really have the skills and knowhow.
cheers
Just a quick pic of the room I now have in the garage. I have 16' between the back of momma's Olds and the wall. Enough room for my vehicles and tractors. I also told Ashton's mom that she can store her BMW M3 Two-Seater in the garage this winter until they get a building put up. The only stipulation was that they get a set of wheel dollies so it can be tucked tight to a wall.
Enough room for my vehicles and tractors. I also told Ashton's mom that she can store her BMW M3 Two-Seater in the garage this winter until they get a building put up. The only stipulation was that they get a set of wheel dollies so it can be tucked tight to a wall.Attachments
Glad to see it come all together like it did Kevin.
JCQuick
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very Nice Looks great
Streetbu
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Awesome! Congrats and job well done!
ambenz
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Gosh Kevin that is a lot of addition for the money!
What a multi-functional looking space, very nice.
I can see a fun detailing session in that space...making it a all season party hall is also a plus. You can do a lot of things in there!
It sure is crazy how the cost of material rises....thinking back on my garage build, over 2000 sq feet of concrete pad and driveway, 10 foot sides and a hip roof covering 660 square feet, I paid a little over $23,000 in 2001 and I contracted the whole thing!
Good luck on the electrical, those materials have gotten crazy expensive too!
What a multi-functional looking space, very nice.
I can see a fun detailing session in that space...making it a all season party hall is also a plus. You can do a lot of things in there!
It sure is crazy how the cost of material rises....thinking back on my garage build, over 2000 sq feet of concrete pad and driveway, 10 foot sides and a hip roof covering 660 square feet, I paid a little over $23,000 in 2001 and I contracted the whole thing!
Good luck on the electrical, those materials have gotten crazy expensive too!
Diesel Dan
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Looking good!
After everything you've done you're going to hire an electrician rather than do it yourself?
That involves getting my electrical permit, calling the electrician, and biting the bullet on spending more money.
After everything you've done you're going to hire an electrician rather than do it yourself?
+Looking good!
After everything you've done you're going to hire an electrician rather than do it yourself?
I'll do some myself, but as far as the final hookups and such, I'll leave that to the electrician just so everything meets code. I can get the lights up, the boxes in, wire pulled myself, and also come up with a lighting plan and knowing where I want my switches.
txvwnut
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Ya know when you build a garage/shop and you think of just how much room your gonna have, then you stick something in there and it suddenly gets smaller... Kevin yours seems to have gotten bigger even with addition of objects. I hate you I mean I'm jealous, looks really good.
Now that your done with the outside construction work has it stopped raining?
Now that your done with the outside construction work has it stopped raining?
madoc1
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looking really nice. been following, but forgot-did you retain the original garage doors? I like the idea of having them. also, any shots to the right of your wife's car where the two buildings tie together? thx.
jim
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JCQuick
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wow that looks great and all in 3 months man am I a slacker
Ya know when you build a garage/shop and you think of just how much room your gonna have, then you stick something in there and it suddenly gets smaller... Kevin yours seems to have gotten bigger even with addition of objects. I hate you I mean I'm jealous, looks really good.
Now that your done with the outside construction work has it stopped raining?[/QUOTE]
It's stopped. Now the lawns are all browning out. we actually need some rain now.
Mac.....I left the old doors on. That way, I can either heat one half or the other half, or both halves. I just need to get me another propane heater for the new side. Pics below of how things went together.
wow that looks great and all in 3 months man am I a slacker
JC.....here I thought we were slacking. No offense to you though. We went for a couple weeks without getting anything done. Between the rain, then Ashton and I helping Craig for a week and a half, we could have been ahead some.
MACDOC......here are the pics of where the garage tied together to the right of momma's car. If you remember, the roof shown used to be the overhang of the existing garage. We had to build a wall back to the original wall, then tied into the roof.
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theoldwizard1
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So how is the second coat of stain going ?
Up here in the Wolverine state, we are having a heat wave, so stay cool !
Up here in the Wolverine state, we are having a heat wave, so stay cool !
bczygan
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Just under $45 /SF....Not bad for a nicely designed addition that is seamless with the existing building.
Hope you have many years of enjoyment there.
Bill
Hope you have many years of enjoyment there.
Bill
So how is the second coat of stain going ?
Up here in the Wolverine state, we are having a heat wave, so stay cool ![/QUOTE]
Not going yet. I need to get some gutters up before I get it stained. I have two walls that I can stain, but the rest will have to wait. When it rains, it splashes up up on the siding. And I need to get some more straw so I can get my grass planted. And I couldn't do that until I fixed my truck which I just finished with yesterday. I had to replace the axle bearings and seals. So straw this afternoon, and stain what I can in the morning and tomorrow afternoon. Then I have to make a call to the electrician to go over things with him and see what that is going to cost before I get my insulation in and drywall ordered.
Not too bad at all Bill. Even though I went over budget from what I WAS wanting to stay at, so far I am still UNDER budget from what I set as a final cost. Although that is increasingly coming to an end, and I am looking at going over on it, but only by a couple of thousand. And that will still be $8,000 less than my largest quote I had of $57,000.
Another thing I need to do before too long is get in touch with my insurance company and get them out to the house to take some pics and get the garage re-evaluated to make sure everything is covered. Since the last time they were here, I acquired a large wet or dry surface grinder, and built the addition and bump-out. I'd hate like hell to see something happen and not be covered with adequate insurance.
And with that being said about insurance.......for anyone reading this.......if you have made any modifications to you present garage, or if you have just recently built another, or built your first.......MAKE SURE you contact your insurance company. Most people including myself, hates like hell to have to pay more money out, but it is a necessity to have adequate insurance. And a lot of people think that when they reach the end of the build, that is all they need to do. You buy your permits, your inspections passed, and the build is complete, and you think you are good to go. But if lightning strikes, the new build is burnt to the ground, all you will most likely be covered for is something like $1500 for an outbuilding (shed). Don't let that happen. Get in touch with your agent, and get your policy modified so you have adequate coverage. On my build, I was expecting a $35,000 build, and I am approaching $45,000 by the time it is all done and over with. And that is with someone and myself building it. To be built start to finish as where I am going with a finished off interior with electric, I would be looking at around $60,000+ for someone else to do it. I would literally be sick if something happened, and all I received from the insurance company would be a $1500 check
So I try to stress to everyone.......PLEASE GET YOUR INSURANCE UP TO DATE!!!!
bczygan
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So how is the second coat of stain going ?
Up here in the Wolverine state, we are having a heat wave, so stay cool ![/QUOTE]
Not going yet. I need to get some gutters up before I get it stained. I have two walls that I can stain, but the rest will have to wait. When it rains, it splashes up up on the siding. And I need to get some more straw so I can get my grass planted. And I couldn't do that until I fixed my truck which I just finished with yesterday. I had to replace the axle bearings and seals. So straw this afternoon, and stain what I can in the morning and tomorrow afternoon. Then I have to make a call to the electrician to go over things with him and see what that is going to cost before I get my insulation in and drywall ordered.
Not too bad at all Bill. Even though I went over budget from what I WAS wanting to stay at, so far I am still UNDER budget from what I set as a final cost. Although that is increasingly coming to an end, and I am looking at going over on it, but only by a couple of thousand. And that will still be $8,000 less than my largest quote I had of $57,000.
Another thing I need to do before too long is get in touch with my insurance company and get them out to the house to take some pics and get the garage re-evaluated to make sure everything is covered. Since the last time they were here, I acquired a large wet or dry surface grinder, and built the addition and bump-out. I'd hate like hell to see something happen and not be covered with adequate insurance.
And with that being said about insurance.......for anyone reading this.......if you have made any modifications to you present garage, or if you have just recently built another, or built your first.......MAKE SURE you contact your insurance company. Most people including myself, hates like hell to have to pay more money out, but it is a necessity to have adequate insurance. And a lot of people think that when they reach the end of the build, that is all they need to do. You buy your permits, your inspections passed, and the build is complete, and you think you are good to go. But if lightning strikes, the new build is burnt to the ground, all you will most likely be covered for is something like $1500 for an outbuilding (shed). Don't let that happen. Get in touch with your agent, and get your policy modified so you have adequate coverage. On my build, I was expecting a $35,000 build, and I am approaching $45,000 by the time it is all done and over with. And that is with someone and myself building it. To be built start to finish as where I am going with a finished off interior with electric, I would be looking at around $60,000+ for someone else to do it. I would literally be sick if something happened, and all I received from the insurance company would be a $1500 check
So I try to stress to everyone.......PLEASE GET YOUR INSURANCE UP TO DATE!!!!
Kevin,
This is so true!
While I am a bare bones kind of guy, insurance is just that.
We built a million dollar house for a Homearama, on the lake, big, fancy!
Struck by lightning and burned. Thank goodness it was covered.
We let the foundations sit for a year, hoping for a client for a rebuild of the original floor plan. Then we spent 10K to have them removed.
A week later, a client showed up wanting the same plan in the same place!
Bill
Bought a new well needed item off of Diesel Dan today. A "WORTH" two post, 9,000 lb. lift. Now IU won't have to get down on my shot knees to work. I may have to still use a stool to sit on for some things because the lift, although fullsize, fits under a 10' ceiling. I have scissor trusses on 10' walls, so it will be close on getting a regular car all the way up with room to work under it, or roll the stool out and have a sit down underneath the car.
What I need to get now is some 3/4" anchors in, and get the lift installed. And again, thanks to Diesel Dan for holding onto the lift for me until my garage was mostly completed.
Oh, and I forgot to add....the lift is MADE IN THE USA
What I need to get now is some 3/4" anchors in, and get the lift installed. And again, thanks to Diesel Dan for holding onto the lift for me until my garage was mostly completed.
Oh, and I forgot to add....the lift is MADE IN THE USA
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Diesel Dan
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Your welcome......Drew....er.....Bob....KEVIN!
Glad you made it home and it was nice meeting Ashton, he's a very nice kid.
We have mine anchored down with the cross brace installed. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get the final adjustment done to the overhead pieces, run the cables, hoses and wire it up. I have access to a alternate power unit so the damaged one will be set off to the side for now.
Glad you made it home and it was nice meeting Ashton, he's a very nice kid.
We have mine anchored down with the cross brace installed. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get the final adjustment done to the overhead pieces, run the cables, hoses and wire it up. I have access to a alternate power unit so the damaged one will be set off to the side for now.
Diesel Dan
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Well YOU ****!!!!!
If it's any consolation my mill still isn't hooked up.
xtremek
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You still ****, Kevin.
theoldwizard1
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Any progress to report ?
Got my gutters on the other day. I also bought my bolts to put the lift up, and was just waiting on things to cool down somewhat. Now that the gutters are up, I can now get the second coat of stain on. I have things caulked so that's all good. But momma throwed a wrench in my works. Take out the garden and get the ground ready around the garage to get the rest of the grass seed in. So today is tilling day.
And I have to make a few phone calls for some estimates. Mainly for the electrical. I have the estimate for the insulation and drywall, but not from my drywall guy for hanging it. Momma has a docs appointment tomorrow out of town, so I may hit Menards up and see about some recessed lighting for my bumpout, and I can get that done myself. The main addition, I will help out the electrician on it.
Other than that, not much to report right at the moment. Mainly just trying to get things put away from the build, and get my main garage back in order somewhat do I can get back on my machines for a little while for a change of pace
And I have to make a few phone calls for some estimates. Mainly for the electrical. I have the estimate for the insulation and drywall, but not from my drywall guy for hanging it. Momma has a docs appointment tomorrow out of town, so I may hit Menards up and see about some recessed lighting for my bumpout, and I can get that done myself. The main addition, I will help out the electrician on it.
Other than that, not much to report right at the moment. Mainly just trying to get things put away from the build, and get my main garage back in order somewhat do I can get back on my machines for a little while for a change of pace
ratdoggy
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Well YOU ****!!!!!
You both **** because I have no lift and don't have the height to put one in either....But that will change since I'm going to get a midrise like Kevin and I saw at the Cleveland Autorama
Eric....I like that idea, and you show what I have as far as a roof inside. Thanks for posting up pics and clarifying the condition. It may make it clearer for others to know what I am talking about also.
Is this the area that was discussed before ( I added some pics of mine elsewhere) to use for storage ?
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dlcwent
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I'm real happy for you Kevin. You'll be loving it when your lift is working. Everything else is looking great.
Eric......That is the area. I may only use half of it for storage, just for some lightweight items. I'm going to run studs up vertical to the end truss and frame out a door, but I may run some 2x's back horizontally so I have a level area. I really don't need more storage, I just need to get rid of some stuff. I already have a 4x14' closet in the garage that the wife uses for Christmas items, then she has a concrete pit in her building that is used for her storage, then a closet in the house garage that has 2 deep freezers in it, plus some cabinets for storage......see a pattern here? TOO MUCH **** for two people.
dlcwent
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Eric......That is the area. I may only use half of it for storage, just for some lightweight items. I'm going to run studs up vertical to the end truss and frame out a door, but I may run some 2x's back horizontally so I have a level area. I really don't need more storage, I just need to get rid of some stuff. I already have a 4x14' closet in the garage that the wife uses for Christmas items, then she has a concrete pit in her building that is used for her storage, then a closet in the house garage that has 2 deep freezers in it, plus some cabinets for storage......see a pattern here? TOO MUCH **** for two people.
I think it's human nature Kevin. We seem to fill up space with things we need and things that we no longer use. It's hard to throw out something that you know will be useful later.
theoldwizard1
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Actually, I like the look of that old roof, shingles and all. It will look good especially with the old garage doors. Too bad those braces for the new roof break up the look.
It doesn't have shingles on it. That is felt paper from when we stripped the old roof off. I did actually thing about making it look like an old building inside of the new addition. The bad thing is though that with an area like that, it would be a huge dust collection area. So I am going to block it off.