Kickspace heater bearing replacement

[Kaizen]

Anybody have any experience? Sounds like a spun bearing but I can’t even find a replacement on line. Manufacturer claims should never need replacement. Should I try squirting some lithium grease in the end? Is there two bearings?




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[nsula_country]

What is a Kickspace heater?

Says it has triple ball bearings, so if 1 goes out the other 2 carry the load?

CT

 

[Kaizen]

What is a Kickspace heater?

Says it has triple ball bearings, so if 1 goes out the other 2 carry the load?

CT

Goes under a cabinet and blows hot air out the kick space area. I saw that too but they don’t describe it.


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[Jim greengo]

Pictures of motor/bearings?

 

[Kaizen]

Pictures of motor/bearings?

I was hoping to have a replacement bearing or some guidance before I open it up. I have zero degree weather coming and although loud it still works. Everybody is closed till Tuesday. I know their bearings have ball bearings and can picture them all falling out when I start this


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[Milton Shaw]

That probably is a sealed motor, riveted together where you cannot service the bearings. Throw away is the current guideline on how things are built.

 

[Jim greengo]

I was hoping to have a replacement bearing or some guidance before I open it up. I have zero degree weather coming and although loud it still works. Everybody is closed till Tuesday. I know their bearings have ball bearings and can picture them all falling out when I start this


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Bearings are probably caged

 

[Marctrees]

Take it out and LOOK if you can shoot some appropriate light lube into them.

Bench check.

Could buy you a few more years.... may not... never know.

I have given many small motors a second life doing that.

Definitely worth a try, you gotta pull it anyway.

Marc

 

[Kaizen]

Take it out and LOOK if you can shoot some appropriate light lube into them.

Bench check.

Could buy you a few more years.... may not... never know.

I have given many small motors a second life doing that.

Definitely worth a try, you gotta pull it anyway.

Marc

Bearings are just on rabbit wheel. Shouldn’t need to remove anything but the wheel. Has at least one bearing at the outer side. Going to wait and talk to manufacturer Tuesday before attempting.


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[The Cobbler]

looking at pics online it has a long squirrel cage fan with a "bearing " on one end. either the motor or a shaft on the other end.
I bet it is serviceable , and a spot or 2 of oil on the bearings would probably quiet it down a lot for quite some time.

 

[Marctrees]

Nothing to talk to mfgr about.

And nothing to "remove"

Other than few screws to pull out entire whole unit.

You will gain absolutely nothing wasting the time to call them.

What in the world do you expect them to tell you ?

As basic as it gets.. no rocket science here.

Lube the bearings in situ.

End of story.

IF that, small chance, .... does not solve your problem, replace.

No inquiry board or consultants or outsourced engineering services needed.

Marc

 

[Skiff Builder]

Kaizen,
Here is link to info on a Beacon Morris unit- blower removal. Know you have a HydroTherm, but you'll see they come out of the same plant on Elm St in Westfield.

See yours made in 2010. How long installed in your house?

http://beacon-morris.com/modules/lit_lib/download.asp?litFileID=2411


Skiff Builder

 

[Skiff Builder]

pics

 

[Marctrees]

From here it appears to be a simple motor possibly w exposed bushings.

Oil em.

And the other end of the squirrel cage.

Marc

 

[Kaizen]

Nothing to talk to mfgr about.

And nothing to "remove"

Other than few screws to pull out entire whole unit.

You will gain absolutely nothing wasting the time to call them.

What in the world do you expect them to tell you ?

As basic as it gets.. no rocket science here.

Lube the bearings in situ.

End of story.

IF that, small chance, .... does not solve your problem, replace.

No inquiry board or consultants or outsourced engineering services needed.

Marc

Take it easy. Want to talk to them to find out where to get a replacement bearing. I had to remove backsplash, countertop, and cabinet. If I can do this right I will


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[Kaizen]

Kaizen,

Here is link to info on a Beacon Morris unit- blower removal. Know you have a HydroTherm, but you'll see they come out of the same plant on Elm St in Westfield.



See yours made in 2010. How long installed in your house?



http://beacon-morris.com/modules/lit_lib/download.asp?litFileID=2411





Skiff Builder

Thanks skiff good thinking. That will help


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[Skiff Builder]

When you go back together with everything, think about cutting a removable access out of the cabinet bottom.
Did this on mine a couple years ago on initial install.Allows access for cleaning and servicing motor. My Wife doesn't even know it's there.

 

[Kaizen]

When you go back together with everything, think about cutting a removable access out of the cabinet bottom.
Did this on mine a couple years ago on initial install.Allows access for cleaning and servicing motor. My Wife doesn't even know it's there.

Genius. Definitely doing this.


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[yeldogt]

FYI -- That's always been the weakness with those units. I have used them to fix problem areas in past projects and was warned to provide full service access. You have to buy the whole motor/blower assembly.

Those motors are used in so many things and even with BB vs sleeve bearings they have a limited life. The exact same motor is in my ice maker pump.

Trying to fix or replace in the actual motor is pointless -- maybe on the blower as long as you don't have to touch the motor. You will never get it lined up.

 

[Marctrees]

Doesn't it just flange mount w a few screws in kickspace cutout and pull right out w flex feeding it ?

Never seen one where you have to do all the work said above to get it out.

Unless someone tiled in front of it after it was in.

Marc

 

[Marctrees]

I think I missed that this is a hot water unit.. doesn't pull out.

I've only previously seen all electric.

My comments were all founded on that.

This is a very different animal.

Ya ?

Marc

 

[Kaizen]

I think I missed that this is a hot water unit.. doesn't pull out.

I've only previously seen all electric.

My comments were all founded on that.

This is a very different animal.

Ya ?

Marc

Correct. Plumbing supply and return have to come up through the floor and attach to the unit. I used pex so if I had to in the future just pull it up and cut it. I’ve seen copper used with no flex so pain to change in the future. Also has 120v to it.


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[yeldogt]

My memory is Hydrotherm and Beacon Morris = same company.

I have seen a couple different makes ... but they guts all look the same. Some came with a longer warranty .... I never used them as primary .. but they did the job when you needed extra BTU's in an older house when retrofitting radiant. I also used one in a far flung bathroom .... Although now I would have used a runtal towel rack.