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jimindm

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Some of your points I agree with like policing your belongings better & stopping him, or maybe showing the kid what it was, but is it really the responsibility of strangers to teach some kid how to behave? Besides, there's always the chance that the kid's parent will react in a negative way & be a complete jerk.

Like I had posted, my friend, not a stranger, who's kid hit a show car with a rock had that "my kid would never do that" attitude even after I explained what happened. :dunno: That's the last time I ever tried to intervene with his kid's behavior & decided that it wasn't worth the aggravation.

Yes, it was a cheap $2.50 magnet, but what if it had been something worth $250.00? Does the value of the object determine whether it was right or wrong for the kid to take, or the parent to let it slide? I don't think the original poster is going to be a grumpy old man, I think he's just fed up with the dregs of society like a lot of us are. :lol:

Does not really matter the cost? You need to pick your battles. You really had no idea your freind was that way?

If it was a $250 item he would have kept better track of it. I certainly would have. He mentioned it was a box of stuff, and that was in it. I see it all of the time. People buy it and just set it down, and after paying, see a ticket for a box. O yea, its over there, and it maybe still there.

You have to give kids a little breathing room and let them experiment on their own. They learn just like most of us did. They do as what they see others doing.

In the end it was a $2.50 item. Yes it could have been more but it was not. I have kids and yes sometimes they do not make the best choices. But was it the best choice to let this kid rummage threw a box that the OP had bought. I think there were a few poor decisions made and they are not all of the kids fault.

How long before some one mentions getting a lawyer, and suing?
 
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I think he's just fed up with the dregs of society like a lot of us are. :lol:


I wouldn't say auction goers are the dregs of society. But I have observed, for the most part, auction patrons are not what I would not call "the beautiful people." And I'm right there with them! :beer:
 

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I go throw this about every day @ the flee market. I have almost have gotten the fist fights over kids messing with my stuff. just think what the do gooder parent will be if on of theose kids gets hurt around some equipment @ amkachine auction.
 

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As long as there have been kids, there have been bad parents who can't control their kids. It's nothing new. I was 10 years old in 1968 when my parents went to Sears to buy appliances for a new house my dad had just built. Now, my parents had their parenting faults, but one thing they would not tolerate was bad behavior out in public, and my sister and I knew we'd catch hell if we behaved badly. We stood quietly while mom and dad bought a stylish coppertone fridge and range, and I remember the salesman complimenting my parents on our behavior. Obviously he'd seen just the opposite, kids running amok through the store, many times.
 

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It's your very mentality that tells these little brats that they don't need to show respect for other people, or their things. You either have no children, or you have children that are complete, spoiled little shits, that are talked about behind your back. Guaranfuckingteed.

You are wrong both ways. Is your guarantee worth cash or in-store credit?

I have 3 kids that are all well behaved. Well, we are still working on the 2 year old. They are not angels by any means so they do mess up sometimes. I don't beat them for it, though. I guess this makes me a bad parent.
 

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It was an indirect way of letting the parent know they were currently failing (respect other people's property!); letting the kid know that society is watching him; to think about how one's actions can affect others (having children myself it's not always that easy but ya gotta drill it into their heads). I think the poster did the appropriate thing.

However, based upon this and previous comments of yours, I get the distinct impression you never had responsibility over a child or you're a product of overly strict parenting and are on the other side of the pendulum (ignorant compensation). Or you just like drama :pimpflash What would you have done, oh Wisest of Them All?

Wow, you can tell a lot about me from my 20 something total posts! It is especially impressive given that most of them are about paint and electrical. How do you do it?

Are you really asking what I would have done if, god forbid, I saw a kid touching a lathe at an auction? :lol: Not a damn thing. But that is because I am not very nice. If I was I would have talked to him and told him what all the levers did and what the attachments were for.
 

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Look, don't touch, ask, don't be a smart-a**, be quiet when told to, if your kids are not "trained" well enough, keep them at home......don't let the rest of the society deal with your lack of abilities of parenthood !!!

My 2 cents.....
 

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I was reading this thread earlier on my phone, but I wanted to wait to comment until I got home to the desktop. I guess that isn't really relevant, but you already read it so whatever :D

anyway, my 9 year old sometimes does need a swat or two on the behind or needs to physically be put into "time out". I can no longer do that, why? (no disrespect to Ddawg or any other LEO's reading) but he has figured out that all he has to do is tell the teacher that I hit him in some manner and I have the local PD knocking on my door. so he can do (almost) anything he wants and the worst I can do is put him in time out or take away video game privileges.

so when he steps out of line in public and I seem not to care, its not that I don't, my hands are effectively tied by the new age touchy feely ********. I realize my kids aren't perfect and corporal punishment never hurt me any, but it's just not worth it anymore.



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I was reading this thread earlier on my phone, but I wanted to wait to comment until I got home to the desktop. I guess that isn't really relevant, but you already read it so whatever :D

anyway, my 9 year old sometimes does need a swat or two on the behind or needs to physically be put into "time out". I can no longer do that, why? (no disrespect to Ddawg or any other LEO's reading) but he has figured out that all he has to do is tell the teacher that I hit him in some manner and I have the local PD knocking on my door. so he can do (almost) anything he wants and the worst I can do is put him in time out or take away video game privileges.

so when he steps out of line in public and I seem not to care, its not that I don't, my hands are effectively tied by the new age touchy feely ********. I realize my kids aren't perfect and corporal punishment never hurt me any, but it's just not worth it anymore.

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Just curious, has this actually happened (police visit you because a your child claimed you hit him), or are you just afraid it will happen?

I think sometimes parents use "I can't be a good parent because society won't let me!" as an excuse for lazy parenting.
 

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Just curious, has this actually happened (police visit you because a your child claimed you hit him), or are you just afraid it will happen?

I think sometimes parents use "I can't be a good parent because society won't let me!" as an excuse for lazy parenting.

the police have been at my door on 4 occasions and following that I had social services up my *** for a month.

its because of that whole "mandatory reporting" thing, the teachers are NOT allowed to use logic. its not as if he is coming to school with two black eyes because he "fell down the stairs". he views a spanking as beating him (which I don't and has been proven to the county's satisfaction). he gets a swat or two on the **** and sent to his room, I do not just wale on him.
 
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Wow quite a few responses, and discussion on this. I wish to clarify somethings. The boxes of items were stacked on the ground next to me on the ground, and I was still watching items being sold. I chose this way as was easiest for me and did not want to leave the auction ring to carry my items the several hundred yards to my pickup. I have at other auctions piled my items either under the trailer or out of the way and continued watching items sold, and left them there for hours and not had any problems, if I would have I would say it would have been no one fault but my own. I could have held the box for how ever long until I carried it out to my pickup, but how many people here do this< or take items to their vehicle imediatly? I was watching the auction not my items yes, and felt something hit my leg and looked to see the kid already taking of through the crowd, I did think of chasing him, but didn't, my choice and fault. Yes could have gone and talked to the gentleman the kid showed it to but chose not/ He could have denied it was his child or that his boy would ever do this like some have said, also this man could of only been a friend of the family and not responsible for the kid, Yes it was theft plain and simple, and if the same kid took things out of my garage and I saw him i would have followed him home and talked with parents, or called police. In the situation i was in I chose to let it go right wrong or indifferent that is what I did.
 

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Due to common sense having died is it too late to add that common sense says that smart people don't have kids as kids are financial suicide?
 

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I am absolutely astounded at some of the responses that I have been reading! Taking someone's property is wrong. I don't care where you live, what your age may be, etc. We can make excuses for the action but it does not make the act right! Someone can say..."he is just a kid, he doesn't know any better". I would agree that a 5 year old may not know better.....would it make a difference if a 50 year old man walked over a took the item? It is the same act. The action is wrong, period!! If the 5 year old is not instructed (i.e. corrected). He will not learn. If you put this same 5 year old on a PeeWee football team and he keeps making the same mistake over and over again. The coach of that team is doing the kid and his team a disservice by not correcting the mistake. Someone else may say that it was only a $1.00 trinket. What does price have to do with whether or not a child took something that was not his! As a parent of 2 adult boys I have experienced many of these "teachable moments". As parents we can use this opportunity to train our child...let him / her know that this is unacceptable behavior. If the behavior continues we step up the corrective actions. This is precisely what happens in our society. If that same 5 year old is caught taking a candy bar from a convenient store....do you think that store manager is going to say..."he is only 5 years old, I will let him go".....not only no but HELL no! He is going to address the situation with a parent. That store manager understands the consequence of not addressing the problem.

Sorry for the long winded rant..I'm done.
 

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I dont mean to offend anyone here,because I consider myself to be american as well,but America lacks A common sense law!!period!!

I mean come on we hear about silly lawsuit on a day to day basis,lawsuits that make most of us say"that's ridiculous."
 

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You have to watch your lots and make sure they do not walk off via kids or adults.

So you're saying the kid is right for taking whatever he could get his hands on.

I don't let OP off the hook completely, but the parent of the kid should have asked where he got it and told him to bring it back and then not let the kid roam.

Too many parents expect everyone else to watch their kids when in public so they don't have to.
 

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That kid stole your property and you allowed him to. I would have retrieved it and had a talk with the adult. To me, it's a matter of principle. I don't allow my children to act like that, why should I allow someone else's. Especially with my property. The adult knows you don't just find stuff at an auction. He should have at least asked where exactly it came from. By letting it go, you've only propagated that childs behavior and that of the adult. It's not the value of the item, it's the value of the act. Stealing is still stealing...:dunno:

I agree totaly
 

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So you're saying the kid is right for taking whatever he could get his hands on.

I don't let OP off the hook completely, but the parent of the kid should have asked where he got it and told him to bring it back and then not let the kid roam.

Too many parents expect everyone else to watch their kids when in public so they don't have to.

EXACTLY!

Some of the pansie-asses in here posted that it was only a $2.50 magnet. ********. It doesn't matter what it was, or how much it cost, it wasn't the kids or the kid's parents/grandparents, it didn't belong to him, so he shouldn't have touched it. PERIOD.

It's a completely different situation if the guy piled his stuff somewhere and walked away from it. But then again - same argument. If it aint yours, keep your mitts off of it. And teach your kids the same thing.

The bottom line is that a kid's hands should be in their pockets or at their side, when they're out in public. Not pawing all over **** that don't belong to them. And they should also only speak, when spoken to. Too many *****-waste parents out there that can't keep their kids in check. Self-absorbed, pretentious mini-van captains.

Screw all this dancing around a brat's feelings. They're kids. And the parents should behave like adults, and raise the kids properly. If a kid's acting like a heathen in public, affecting other people around them, one or both parents are usually distracted on their phone. Screw that **** - I'll tell the kid , and then the parent, to get it under control. I've done it before, and I'll do it again.

I know that sounds harsh, like some sort of kid-nazi. But that's not really the case. I love kids just as much as anyone else, but they just need discipline. And some parents don't understand that. They can raise their kids however they want, right up until the point it affects other people. And no one should be negatively affected by someone's misbehaving kids. And if they are, they are perfectly within their rights to speak up.
 

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Wow, you can tell a lot about me from my 20 something total posts! It is especially impressive given that most of them are about paint and electrical. How do you do it?
Yes, I am impressive, my talents even impress me :rocker:

Are you really asking what I would have done if, god forbid, I saw a kid touching a lathe at an auction? :lol: Not a damn thing. But that is because I am not very nice. If I was I would have talked to him and told him what all the levers did and what the attachments were for.
At least you're honest. Actually, explaining what everything does isn't a bad idea :beer:
 

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Some rude kids out there ages 2 to 80; who I would rather not be in the same county with..... Age has little to do with bad behavior... Glad they are a minority group..
 

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I go to estate auctions a lot. Kids at auctions are fine as long as they are well behaved or well supervised. If they are neither then it it the parents fault. (Or grandparents or whoever are bringing them).

I've seen some kids at auctions that have not been a problem at. One time I actually spoke to a father about his little boy who was going under a table full of sale items and trying to hit people's feet with a hammer. They guy was oblivious as to what the kid was doing or where he was at. The guy was looking at tools inside the garage with some other kid who was a lot older, and the table in question was set up outside in the back yard. The guy acted as if I was some kind of busybody but reluctantly hunted the kid down. There was another gentleman there who backed me up and told the guy in no uncertain terms that if the kid hit his foot then there was going to be trouble.
 
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