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Killed a Snap On socket

Jason280

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This happened the other day, still trying to figure out the root cause. It hasn't been abused, and really isn't used all that much...I don't run into 17mm nuts/bolts all that often.

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Jason280

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I haven't used it on an impact...doesn't mean any my idiot friends didn't when they used my tools, though.
 
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Good thing is, all it took was a phone call and Snap On is sending me a replacement.

eta: This is probably one of the only socket failures I've ever had. I've killed several 13mm ratcheting wrenches, but can't recall having a socket split.
 

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Long socket, doesn't surprise me. The force that you apply to the end of your ratchet/breaker bar produces torque and also applies force at the drive end of the socket, cantilever style. It gets even worse with extensions between socket and drive tool. The sort of thing that doesn't happen with impact.
 

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If it had been used on an impact, the square drive will have a burr along its inside perimeter.

From the friction ring?

Perhaps it was from a 1/2" bar and an adapter. It is also possible that it was just a bad forging. Snap-on has way above average quality control but that doesn't mean everything that leaves the factory is perfect.
 
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Jason280

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When do you see the truck next?

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I've never had any luck with the local truck guy, and not chasing down the one these came from...one call to Snap On and I should have a replacement in 3-4 days.
 

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I've never had any luck with the local truck guy, and not chasing down the one these came from...one call to Snap On and I should have a replacement in 3-4 days.
They'll just send one out free of charge without getting the old back first?

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It happens. I've done the same with Snap-on, Proto, SK. Splits from tough bolts and leverage of a breaker bar. Not impact in my case.

Warranty it and go onwards. No big deal occasionally. If you find all your sockets doing it, with little use, then I'd worry about the quality of the brand and look for an upgrade.
 

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i broke a SO flip socket, took a couple years of daily use but it finally cracked. Handed it to my snap on guy and he handed me a new one no questions asked
 

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From the friction ring?

Perhaps it was from a 1/2" bar and an adapter. It is also possible that it was just a bad forging. Snap-on has way above average quality control but that doesn't mean everything that leaves the factory is perfect.

No not from the friction ring; from the square drive itself on the impact. You've never seen that before? The edge of the square drive on the socket will be raised up; looks like a wave coming ashore on the beach.
 

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Long socket, doesn't surprise me. The force that you apply to the end of your ratchet/breaker bar produces torque and also applies force at the drive end of the socket, cantilever style. It gets even worse with extensions between socket and drive tool. The sort of thing that doesn't happen with impact.

Funny, that's exactly what my impact does to them.
It does look a bit mashed up at the reverse side of the drive end, but could just be the angle..
 
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The real story here is that there's rust inside; where the paint wore off. I'd send it back in for warranty based on the lack of chrome and poor paint inside, and start a thread about how Snap-on isn't chroming the inside of the sockets adequately, and the paint isn't holding up. It's probably a conspiracy to cover up how they're being made in China now, and in the same factory, on the same machines as Truecraft and Harbor Freight, just different packaging and huge markup. Plus, we all know that they can't be warranted without a receipt showing original ownership, and only if you buy something from the dealer first, on truck credit at a predatory rate.
 

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The corner of that drive end that's visible does look like it's been on an impact wrench before. Either way, it's not that hard to break long thin walled sockets by hand with zero prior abuse.
 

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Oh how the mighty have fallen... :lol:

Had that been craftsman or HF and a different op - titles would read - "Chinese socket almost killed me" or "cheap china ****" and no doubt involved the op almost falling into an active volcano or narrowly escaping death in some Indiana Jones type story.
 
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Should've bought Tekton sockets like everyone else and this would not happen. I agree with ssdave that this is definite confirmation that a secret Chinese factory is making these substandard SO sockets. Oh well at least they warrantied it, you'll just have to wait for the slow boat to arrive with your replacement.
 
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Oh well at least they warrantied it, you'll just have to wait for the slow boat to arrive with your replacement.

No big deal on the replacement, I have at least 3-5 extra 17mm deep sockets laying around for just such an eventuality.
 

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Being serious, the socket in question looks to have been used many times & probably owes nothing to its owner Jason. Being the price of Snap On is so high you pay it forward investing in a top shelf warranty as well as product. I suppose very few would use their SO tools to the point warranty is required. But when they send out a replacement straight away with few questions asked, it becomes a worthwhile business model for both parties involved.
 

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Just thinking back on the handful of sockets that I have killed (albeit Craftsman brand), they all have been deepwells. That has me thinking, has anyone split a regular socket of decent quality without out the use of an impact.

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Just thinking back on the handful of sockets that I have killed (albeit Craftsman brand), they all have been deepwells. That has me thinking, has anyone split a regular socket of decent quality without out the use of an impact.

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My father has two Wright sockets sitting in his toolbox right now that have cracked and split. He's never even used an impact, yet alone on those sockets. Fairly large sizes too.
 
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Just thinking back on the handful of sockets that I have killed (albeit Craftsman brand), they all have been deepwells. That has me thinking, has anyone split a regular socket of decent quality without out the use of an impact.

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I broke a 3/8 craftsman usa 13mm deepwell once... But none other than that
 

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Just thinking back on the handful of sockets that I have killed (albeit Craftsman brand), they all have been deepwells. That has me thinking, has anyone split a regular socket of decent quality without out the use of an impact.

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Yes, split a 16mm x 1/2" drive Proto on first use on an exhaust system bolt. A large chunk came out of it; it was obviously over-hardened to brittle. The warrantied replacement has been good. Cracked a 3/4" and a 15/16" proto on farm machinery. Had several SK's crack over the years, mostly larger 1/2" drive on farm machinery. Cracked a few Snap-on after much use, in 3/8" drive. Haven't cracked any 1/2" drive that I remember.

But, the sockets that have split or cracked the most have been deep wells. 1/2" x 3/8" drive have been the worst for me, that size I've split several deeps. Also 13/16" spark plug sockets, which are overly thin. Have cracked a couple of my 1/4" drive Snap-on deeps, but I routinely use them where I should be using 3/8" drive shallow. On Craftsman, I've broken some, but more of them have "stretched" out, to where they simply don't fit tight enough to work and slip on the nut. I've had the same happen to some of my 1/4" drive Proto's, I think that may have been one particular manufacturing era that didn't get hardened adequately as I've not seen it on any of my other ones.
 

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sockets split
especially 6 point, thin wall deep sockets.

Funny reading the comments tho,
some seem to take it in stride....

& some not so much :spit:
 

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I’ve split a few when I should have been using sae instead of metric. Just enough slack to do that but not round it off
 

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Clear sign of the beginning of the apocalypse. We are all doomed. Going to cash in retirement fund to blow on hookers and booze.
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