Klein tools - Cobras

[jontar]

I see Klein , is selling cobra pliers now, I so badly have to get a set.

http://www.service.kleintools.com/Tool/PRD/Product/D504-10B,

even made in Germany, 2 of the best its Klein and its made in Germany, just like their ratchet cable cutters

 

[CWP1616L]

That doesn't look like a Knipex Cobra. It's got the push button and says Germany on it, but there's something different about the jaws.

 

[tweedlestan]

Nws.

 

[jontar]

after carefully looking they may not be built by knipex it must be someone else in Germany, does anyone know?

I'm ordering a set right this second online, this is the best v-day (victory day cupids dead for another year) present ever

 

[jontar]

found them on nws site,

http://www.german-hand-tools.com/images/detail_1661-400_d.jpg

Plumbers Tools
Click Here to see NWS finish codes
Waterpump Pliers PowerMax 166K
Chrome
■Parallel gripping and swivel jaw every
position
■With smooth polished jaws / no teeth
■Quick precise adjustment and release by
pressing the button
■Inverse box-joint
■Safety protection of fingers in every
position
■Micro-grinding for easy adjustment
■High-grade refined
■Chrome-vanadium steel, drop-forged, oil-
hardened, and chrome plated

Length: 250mm (10")
Weight: 415g (.91 lb)
Finish: 49
ITEM # 166K-49-250 $41.99
Water pump Pliers Quattrogripp
1661
■QuattroGripp the water pump pliers
with automatic precise adjustment
■Fine adjustment by " Drag and Drop"
■Inverse box-joint
■Safety protection of fingers in every
position
■Cogs additionally induction hardened
■High-grade refined
■Chrome-vanadium steel, drop forged
and oil-hardened

Length: 250mm (10")
Weight: 370g (.82 lb)
Max opening cap: 50mm (1.97")
Finish: 12
ITEM # 1661-12-250 $33.99
Water pump Pliers Quattrogripp
1661
■QuattroGripp the water pump pliers
with automatic precise adjustment
■Fine adjustment by " Drag and Drop"
■Inverse box-joint
■Safety protection of fingers in every
position
■Cogs additionally induction hardened
■High-grade refined
■Chrome-vanadium steel, drop forged
and oil-hardened

Length: 320mm (12.5")
Weight: 630g (1.39 lb)
Max opening cap: 75mm (2.95")
Finish: 12
ITEM # 1661-12-320 $45.99

 

[jontar]

who here besides electricians uses pliers to undo and do up nuts and bolts?

 

[greasemonkey44]

who here besides electricians uses pliers to undo and do up nuts and bolts?

farmers........

i use them if the nut is done for(rounded) and there is room for pliers

that nws is good stuff

 

[tweedlestan]

who here besides electricians uses pliers to undo and do up nuts and bolts?

Marine mechanics.

 

[N.I.]

who here besides electricians uses pliers to undo and do up nuts and bolts?

Cobras with their wide opening capacity are perfect for snugging up plastic water fittings.

 

[jeffmoss26]

Yep. NWS.

 

[Holt]

who here besides electricians uses pliers to undo and do up nuts and bolts?

Plumbers

 

[jontar]

got the set in the mail today, very heavy duty pliers, maybe a little to heavy, well built

 

[Monte]

any pics ?

 

[ddo]

who here besides electricians uses pliers to undo and do up nuts and bolts?

Don't use em often for nuts and bolts but they're perfect for electrical fittings, piping, octagonal union nuts, and nuts if you got nothing else. They serve as a skinny pipe wrench quite well. Grip about as well as PWZ Snap On Swedish style pliers and are quicker and easier to use. On stainless fittings I generally prefer a pipe wrench as it is harder to get the teeth to dig, and when they don't dig in, it can tend to tear up the teeth.

They grip nuts fairly well without rounding corners or tearing them up terribly badly. Wouldn't use em too much under the hood, but I don't do much work there - all out in industrial plants. Can't really sing the praises of flank drive plus for not rounding fasteners and then knock the use of pliers as flank drive plus and similar puts grooves in nuts the same way.

They're NWS for sure, got a pair just like em but prefer the Knipex which can be had in the electrical section at Lowes or Sears as craftsman rebrands as well.

 

[jontar]

sorry no pics already took them to work, had to get them dirty.

 

[shampoop]

I have the NWS branded ones and love them. Only downside is if you ever work out of your pockets the button makes them difficult to get in the pocket, and is uncomfortable to keep in there. I also got the version without the button which pocket beautifully.

Overall I like the non button version more, the button version has an extremely low amount of slop, but the button itself doesn't look all that strong. The non button version looks indestructible and you can memorize what position you need for what size fitting.

One of the best features is that they have the same size mouth as one size larger channellocks do and they work just as well or better on the big stuff than the large channellocks.

 

[fatfillup]

who here besides electricians uses pliers to undo and do up nuts and bolts?

Wow, you live in a narrow world. I have been working on industrial pressure washers for 30 years. My most used tools are Knipex Cobra and Alligator pliers. And I never use them on nuts or bolts. Well, never on good nuts and bolts. I use them on pipes, fittings, holding hoses while spinning out a barb. If you need to grab onto something and not have it move or spin, these type of pliers are the bomb. I am always surprised at car mechanics that turn their nose up at tools they don't use cause they can't imagine a need. Well there are a ton of applications for tools not used on cars that non car mechanics use everyday. I even sell a lot of SAE tools to folks like this, where as a car mechanic can't imagine using a 9/16 wrench. My point is, the world is big, just cause you don't use a particular tool doesn't mean it has its place!

 

[ddo]

Wow, you live in a narrow world. I have been working on industrial pressure washers for 30 years. My most used tools are Knipex Cobra and Alligator pliers. And I never use them on nuts or bolts. Well, never on good nuts and bolts. I use them on pipes, fittings, holding hoses while spinning out a barb. If you need to grab onto something and not have it move or spin, these type of pliers are the bomb. I am always surprised at car mechanics that turn their nose up at tools they don't use cause they can't imagine a need. Well there are a ton of applications for tools not used on cars that non car mechanics use everyday. I even sell a lot of SAE tools to folks like this, where as a car mechanic can't imagine using a 9/16 wrench. My point is, the world is big, just cause you don't use a particular tool doesn't mean it ha

Well said. Get sick of hearing about sae wrenches being a waste of time myself. Outside the auto shop theyre a huge deal. Theres usually a 9/16 nearby at all times for me. In big time plants where down time costs millions, speed rules. Multipurpose tools such as knipex cobra and nws quattro are worth their weight in gold in this setting. Theres not a lot that cant be done as far as bolts and pipe fitting go with a few cobras in your pocket and it beats climbing ladders with full combo wrench set.

 

[redwrench60]

If I'm wearing pants I have a small pair of Knipex Cobras in my pocket. They're handy as a pocket knife.

 

[jontar]

the pliers are very well made and priced, 12inch set was $41, heavier construction compared to knipex cobra, not as slim in the nose though. Jaw has multiple grip surfaces unlike the diamond shaped cobras,

 

[vhol5]

If I'm wearing pants I have a small pair of Knipex Cobras in my pocket. They're handy as a pocket knife.

What do you wear when you're NOT wearing pants?????

 

[littletoes]

I have the NWS branded ones and love them. Only downside is if you ever work out of your pockets the button makes them difficult to get in the pocket, and is uncomfortable to keep in there. I also got the version without the button which pocket beautifully.

Put 'em in your pockets "handles down".....they won't get caught, and the jaws won't wear little holes in your 'covies anymore....

 

[up_in_the_air]

who here besides electricians uses pliers to undo and do up nuts and bolts?

Am a distribution lineman use them all the time

 

[jeffmoss26]

I got a pair of Craftsman (rebranded Knipex) pliers from one of the members on here.
Brought them in to work and now at least two people want a pair now haha

 

[shampoop]

Put 'em in your pockets "handles down".....they won't get caught, and the jaws won't wear little holes in your 'covies anymore....

What kinda idiot wouldn't have tried that?

Anyway, they don't fit very well that way and not nearly as easy to get in and out.