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Is it typical to get a bit of a rough finish when applying primer to bare wood? I'm using Klitz Hide All primer, applied with a foam brush on sanded Popular wood that will be painted and used as a cabinet. After each of two coats dry leaving a rough finish. Is it the paint's function to fill in and smooth what the primer left behind or do I have a bigger problem?
 
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It’s typical for dry sanded wood to raise the grain when liquid is applied. I was thought that after sanding to wipe the wood with a damp cloth. Then the grain would rise. Final sanding at that point removed the rough stuff. Finish wouldn’t have any grain issues.
 
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I thought about the raised grain issue but I understood it was more of a issue when staining. I would think one of the functions of a primer would be to minimze the raised grain.
 
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You used a water based primer. That WILL raise the grain. An oil based primer would not have.
 
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The purpose of a primer is to give your paint something to adhere to, it also fills the pores so the paint doesn't soak into the wood and grains bleeding through. Kiltz is great for hiding scuff marks, color flaws, mold, water stains, etc. You can use it on wood or sheetrock. If you want a smooth finish, paint your color coat and sand lightly with 220g, put on your second coat and sand with 400g. Apply a clear coat and it will look like glass.
 
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I would suggest using BIN - it's a shellac based primer that won't raise the grain and easily sands to a powder. The stuff is great to work with but it is a little expensive and then you have to clean your brush or whatever your using with denatured alcohol
 

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Git said:
I would suggest using BIN - it's a shellac based primer that won't raise the grain and easily sands to a powder. The stuff is great to work with but it is a little expensive and then you have to clean your brush or whatever your using with denatured alcohol
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KILZ also makes a shellac based primer, but you have to look for it through their dozen or more other products. If you really want to hide knots or stains like smoke, you really need a shallac based primer,
 
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I never use universal primers .. there is a place for stain blocking w/ particular problems .... poplar is not one of them.

IMO oil based primers work best regardless of top coat formula -- except drywall. Really like the BM modified oil product inside for trim and casework ... I use oil primers under latex for and exterior and interior latex as well. Only time I use latex primer is under Farrow & Ball and that's often on top of oil primer on bare wood.

You don't want to over sand w/ super fine paper -- going over 220 closes off the pores and actually does not work as well.
 
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The non water based Kills is shellac with white stain added. Shellac is the universal barrier between all kinds of finishes that might not be compatible. A light sanding after water based coatings will knock down the raised grain.


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