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Knipex update 2024

dukefx

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Video has been out for a week and I haven't seen any discussions yet, so here you go:

Suffice to say I'm not in the least bit impressed.
 
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The Soft Cable shears seemed like a useful design.
The cable skinning knife looked really nice.
The pipe cutter looked nice, but didn’t ultra impress me.

For the Cable shears, the video said the blades are laser hardened.
Is this something new?
I think in the past, most Knipex cutting edges and jaws were induction hardened.
 

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For the Cable shears, the video said the blades are laser hardened.
Is this something new?
I think in the past, most Knipex cutting edges and jaws were induction hardened.

Laser hardening is supposed to let you have a small heated zone, which if you do clever things with the composition of the piece, lets you have little bits of hard martensite surrounded by softer ferrite, which yields better abrasion resistance. that's probably a win for a cutter. it's also supposed to use less power than induction heating, potentially as little as 10%, both because it can more efficiently heat the part, but also because less (often none at all) tempering and quenching is required.

I have no experience with this, I'm a caveman, and have only ever hardened using a torch, my eyes to judge temperature, and a bucket of water or oil.
 

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Laser hardening is supposed to let you have a small heated zone, which if you do clever things with the composition of the piece, lets you have little bits of hard martensite surrounded by softer ferrite, which yields better abrasion resistance. that's probably a win for a cutter. it's also supposed to use less power than induction heating, potentially as little as 10%, both because it can more efficiently heat the part, but also because less (often none at all) tempering and quenching is required.

I have no experience with this, I'm a caveman, and have only ever hardened using a torch, my eyes to judge temperature, and a bucket of water or oil.
A bit more knowledge of the potential difference than I had concerning laser hardening.
I just remember the some cutters that used Laser hardening coming out very well in one if the comparison abuse tests of cutters.
 

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You mean nobody's going to comment on the way I say Knipex?

I swear to you, when I first saw the word Knipex, I immediately pronounced it in my mind with a silent 'K' and a long 'I' . Seriously. :oops:
Sorry I didn't give you enough attention today. Just know you are loved. I went back and liked the previous comment as well. :cool:
 
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dukefx

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I can see the advancement. I really like the features on that little pipe cutter. Roller Bearings !!! Infinite Adjustment.
That's the only good innovation I can see, especially for retrofitting. Unfortunately I have no need for pipe cutters. I call a professional for such.
 
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They scaled up their step cutting pliers from 8" to 9"

Next time a tool company unleashes something this exciting, please warn us to buckle up our seatbelts next time, OP!

I get your point, but there are also two new products you ignored. Granted, none of this is earthshattering, but something like a Plier Wrench is an every 50-year type of innovation as far as pliers.

I mean, it takes HF about a year to copy an existing plier and bring it to market; and they do nothing other than transfer money to the mfg in Asia. Knipex actually has to do everything: design, development, testing, order and purchase tooling.... plus, plan for the manpower to run it and find the space in the factory... So yeah, nothing too exciting, but it's something.

Meanwhile over at Channellock.... :ROFLMAO:
 

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I get your point, but there are also two new products you ignored. Granted, none of this is earthshattering, but something like a Plier Wrench is an every 50-year type of innovation as far as pliers.

I mean, it takes HF about a year to copy an existing plier and bring it to market; and they do nothing other than transfer money to the mfg in Asia. Knipex actually has to do everything: design, development, testing, order and purchase tooling.... plus, plan for the manpower to run it and find the space in the factory... So yeah, nothing too exciting, but it's something.

Meanwhile over at Channellock.... :ROFLMAO:
Channellock has been coming out with newer plier designs, after customers started preferring some of the alternatives like Knipex.
Channellock has also been using laser harding for years.
The Speedgrip designs are relatively new, and seem to test well.

Channellock still also manufactures certain plier designs knipex doesn’t, despite Knipex Basically making copies of most plier designs.
 

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