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johno

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Johno....the patchwork blade I think you're speaking of was made using some motorcycle chain.....takes a lot of borax for sure....I'm never sure how the pattern will come out using that. Thank You for the compliments too. :)

I never saw that answer coming:).

Thanks.
 

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Junebuggy - I have an Edge Pro. I guess I just need to practice with it more to get the hang of it. I just don't seem to get my knives as sharp as they should be.



vintage nut - What belt grinder do you use? Is it the type that use a 1" belt that I see for sale on some of the knife supply sites?

I guess this is one of those questions like what tool mfg is best LOL!! I have looked on line and watched a few videos on sharpening and I see people using everything from the Edge Pro to small belt grinders with very fine grit belts to bench grinders with paper wheels. Maybe I'll stick with what I have and practice, practice and practice. [emoji38]
Usually my 1x42 Kalamazoo, but if it has a coarse belt on it, and my 2x72 has a fine belt, I'll use my big one.

you can never have too many tools
 

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Junebuggy, that is breathtaking work. I have seen a lot of fine custom bladework and your knives are just fascinating. Thank you for taking the time to share this with us.
 

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I saw few "homemade" knives this afternoon. One was made out of a rail road spike. It had a nicely twisted handle below the head, then he hammered the rest out for the blade.
 

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8comm13 ~ I keep my Edge Pro stones in a Tupperware filled with water. Keeping the stones clean and wet for me is critical and yes, it's just practice. I have 4 oil and wet stones I use too and although it took a long time to get it down, it's by far my preferred way on putting an edge on but, like you said...everyone has their favorite way and not all are the same.

junebuggy - Keeping the Edge Pro stones in water all the time doesn't effect the adhesive holding it to the metal backing plate? I guess for now I will just have to keep practicing with my EP and see how it goes.
Also, sorry to hear of your health problems, I hope everything works out.


Usually my 1x42 Kalamazoo, but if it has a coarse belt on it, and my 2x72 has a fine belt, I'll use my big one.

you can never have too many tools

vintage nut - Thanks for the info, I may look into something like that down the road
 

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I never saw that answer coming:).

Thanks.

My knowledge of foundry work & smithing is next to nothing, yet like you (johno), really never expected a motorcycle chain & Borax as being part of the secret recipe :)

Junebuggy, your work is really special. You have a great attitude which is one of the most important things in beating these terrible illnesses. Wishing you nothing but the best to a healthy recovery. :thumbup:
 

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Junebuggy: you have awesome talent and again sorry to hear you have to take a break from doing what you love because of health reasons. so the question i have you and other knife makers is what sort of steel should i be saving for the day when i might be able to make a few knives?

I've got a box full of old files and I've heard the old English made ones are better or which ones would work or not work?

I've got a drawer full of old railroad spikes and pick up them in buckets or one at a time when i can because I've seen a few nice knives made from them. are all RR spikes the same?

i have a lot of RR track that i'm going to sell as small cold steel anvils some day or can i make a knife from them?

i get offered square stock fairly often of steel and not sure of the quality or what it is worth or what i should pay for it. any idea or help appreciated.

thanks and keep posting anything you can because i'm sure there are many that are watching and enjoying this thread that don't or are not able to post.
 

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I have made a lot of knives from files. Old Nicholson ones are really good. The one I'm sending you is a file. I lost your address, so if you can send it again I'll get it off this week.

you can never have too many tools
 

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Junebuggy ,

Sure won't second guess you on selling out the big shop.
Had to be a lot of soul searching on that.
But as you say it sure opens up a lot of other doors of opportunity.

Keep on hammerin and grindin brother !
 

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June, giving up what you love to do is hard, especially when you must. The smaller forge will ease some of the emptiness and creating more of the beautiful knifes will fill some of the holes. The vises will also take up some of your time, the work you do is exceptional and we all love and wish we was as talented. Enjoy yourself in your new hobbies, keep taking the awesome pictures for we all look forward to seeing your new projects.
 
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JB: you can make posts like that anytime you like and it was a pleasure to read. while i didn't understand all that you said i just kept reading and took in what i can now and i'll go back to that post after i have time or learn more from your following posts.

sorry and happy you sold the big shop so now you can maybe have a little less stress. i used to take Advil by the handfuls back in the early to late 80's until i heard one of our local football players lost his kidneys and was on dialysis from taking maybe less than i was. i haven't taken an advil except for a toothache since i bought my inversion table. ever hung upside down on an inversion table yet and if not might i mention that you might want to try it.

my 81 year old mom is my most recent success story using one. she tweaked her back and had been on Vicodin for a month and i took her to get a MRI even though i wanted her to try my inversion table. she is a retired RN so she was sure something was broken. after MRI didn't come up with anything the Dr. wanted to give her a shot (maybe cortisone) and then she decided to stop by my house and try my www.invertalign.com inversion table made by teeter ups. anyway after using it for almost 5 minutes per day at about 75% tilt (I do 100%) she stopped taking Vicodin after the first week and after 4 weeks she is dancing and running around and helping my 6.5 dad in and out of the car and house again with no pain. not sure it will help the lungs, but i do mine as often as possible and only 5 minutes at a time. some days i do it AM and PM if i lifted heavy that day or had something i tweaked instead of grabbing some advil.

anyway I'd love to teach you to play golf if you want to teach me to make some knives once you beat that thing you have.

cheers and best wishes
 

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JB: thanks for sharing. Please post as much as you want and as often as you like. I love reading it and please don't feel bad for writing very long posts. Also feel free to share even the most basic information is very appreciated. It's a great read and remember most of us know nothing but love learning.
 

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JB: i'm hoping both you and Vintage and other members keep sharing their wisdom on steel, blacksmithing and making knives and other things as you can.

if i buy steel in solid square or round stock is there a way to tell if it is a special grade? is it stamped or a certain color or is there a pattern to look for?

also i was at a sale a while back and a knifemaker was grabbing all the English made files and leaving a pile of old US made ones for me to buy. any thoughts on making knives with files and which ones are the ones to look for or will they all work if over 20 years old?

thanks guys for all your thoughts if you have any to share
 

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If the file is a Nicholson and stamped USA or canada, it's W2, and will make a very good knife. The only thing I will add is that unless you have a full size belt grinder (2x72) you will probably spend more on abrasives removing the teeth, then you would to order a nice new, surface ground piece of starrett O1 in a nice paper wraper from kbc tools. I started out only making file knives, and still make a few, but the more knives I make, the more I just buy new steel. So much faster and easier, and if you factor in abrasives (let alone time) it's cheaper.
And if you ever do get into knifemaking and decide to try a knife in stainless or some fancy steel, I'll offer to heat treat it.

One trick to tell if steel is any good for blades is to grind it. Take a piece of normal mild steel and grind it. Look at the sparks. Then grind a file. You'll notice that the sparks from the file are a lot more feathery. This indicates a higher carbon content. The higher the carbon, the more noticeable the feathers.

you can never have too many tools
 

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Also, if you run into any canadian files, black Diamond and globe also make excellent knives. Pretty much any old file will make a good knife. The exception is cheap case hardened files which are soft steel only hard on the outside. You can identify these by grinding them, or clamping one in a vise with say 1/2" sticking out, and trying to break it off with a hammer. A good file will snap off like glass. If it doesn't break, its no good. This is a good test for any non top brand files you are unsure about.

you can never have too many tools
 

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Vintage: Which files would you prefer to make your knives from in case i can find any? or would you like the Canadian ones?

thanks for sharing some more of the information you have learned. i hope others are learning as much or more than i am.
 

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Any old Nicholson files would be perfect. And ideally not ones that are very thick for their width. It seems to depend on what sort of file they are, but some are a lot thicker, and that just leaves me a lot more steel to grind off.

I was given about a dozen old files recently, but most of them still have a fair bit of life in them, so I tucked them away to use.

you can never have too many tools
 

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Those are incredible! The only thing I have seen like that is one old blacksmith I know made a very real looking octopus out of a bar of steel. Lots of hot cutting, punching, and bending. Just a little thing, but very cool!

you can never have too many tools
 

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Vintage: thanks again for sending me this awesome knife you made. i know once i showed it to my wife she wouldn't let go of it until i said she could keep it in the kitchen. I agreed because even though she is only 1/4 Irish it's that part that always keeps me on my toes. it's a cool knife that is for sure and your skill is awesome and here's pictures of Vintage's knife i (my wife) now own.

JB: frying pan to the snot locker? nice and as i said above it might have been me getting the same if i had a fake spider sitting in my wife's kitchen. that little rattler isn't looking happy. so do he and his relatives visit your home or shop often?

nice looking snake made out of a file. do you have any before and during the making of some of your fine knives or fun stuff?
 

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If anyone is wondering drives (wife's) knife is made from a file, the handle is padouk wood (thats its natural color) and the pins are bronze brazing rods.
Maybe we can figure out some sort if trade if you want one for yourself in the shop! Haha

you can never have too many tools
 

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JB: check out Woody's garage thread for some hands free camera pictures. http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263351&highlight=woody

Denwood started a company that has some great stuff for putting your camera or phone camera on to take pictures and time lapse ones too with the right software. he's also a great guy as you'll see if you check out his thread or PM him with any questions.

Vintage: anything is possible because the only knife i seem to use is my little Swiss army knife for opening up boxes and mainly for the toothpick.
 

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JB:.... i bought my inversion table. ever hung upside down on an inversion table yet and if not might i mention that you might want to try it.
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Recently bought one. Seems to be helping. Glad to read good review.

Now all I need is one of JB's knives, and life would be just about purrrrfect, LOL

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Chevy: my inversion table is one thing i'll never sell unless a friend needs it that day and i can buy another one. build up to 5 minutes a day and if you are really sore or kinked up try it for 5 in the AM and PM. it does work and happy it is helping you too. did you buy the Teeter up?
 
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