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knotty pine tongue and groove source

alex2929

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Where is the best source for tongue and groove knotty pine? I am thinking I want a few different widths and would need roughly 650 square feet for a bar room. Not sure if i should go to the local lumber yard.....menards/lows.....or more of a saw mill type of place.....
 
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danfromsyr

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really depends on the level of quality you are expecting
I've bought from home/blowes an independent lumber yard and a discount yard.
all of them you had to pick through the pile to get straight unchecked and not cracked tongues/grooves.
if you have a large order and don't intend to pick through it at pick up, make sure you order 10%~15% over.
ask if you can return the unused UNCUT pieces.
different yards have different widths based on their supplier.
Home/Blowes usually have 2 different sizes. so you could possible mix it up in your design there.
of course you'll have to use whatever width for the full run.

there are premium T&G suppliers out there for the really nice and fully engineered stuff, crisp edges, laser straight boards and nice knotty patterns.. but as is premium they are $$$$ over the DIY shop stuffs.
 

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Wow, that takes me back. When I was a kid (in the 60s) our first house had a knotty-pine rec room. It was very popular back then in our neighborhood.

As an adult I am always sad to see knotty-pine walls painted over, with no appreciation for the beautiful wood beneath the paint.
 

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I did a wall in the shop. I got it all from Menards a couple years ago and it was nice. Not sure I would consider it AAA quality but it actually looked better than I thought it would. Lots of knots and good figure. I was happy and would use it again.
 

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Got mine from a couple of local sawmills.

Most from trees I cut myself. Some rough sawn by a one man sawmill and finished at another mill with planing capability, and some from logs provided by the mill.

I have had pine, cedar, and birch paneling and flooring milled that way, as well as oak trim. My brother in law gets a lot of shiplap done that way.

Not sure it’s a whole lot cheaper, or quicker than just ordering it from the local lumberyard, though, but at least I am supporting some local cottage industries.
 

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Here in upstate SC, there are several small local places that advertise in CL and Facebook. Much cheaper than big box stores and conventional lumber yards. I used 1X6 beadboard white pine for my porch ceiling, and 1X8 T&G in a great room in my barn.
 
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Michigan prestain is the best. I think they might have been purchased by Lumbermans. Every time I figured the cost of cedar or pine and the finish cost they come out on top. I have a cedar house and used them for my siding and a 2500 sq foot finished basement that is all knotty cedar and was less than any pine I could purchase . If you work the board feet and figure the stain clear or tinted you can’t buy just raw cedar from a supplier. The fact that they coat both sides so the panels don’t cup is a major advantage for protecting you investment.
Mac
 

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I live in S. Mich....bought my T & G knotty pine siding for my party area in my barn (We call it the Sanctuary, NOT MAN CAVE!)
I got it East of Gaylord, Mi......it's actually T & G on all FOUR ends, so the short sides don't have to be right at a 2x4 or anything
to nail to!! I ordered the double-clear finish....cheaper than I could have done myself...reasonably priced, and installed it by
MYSELF!! You can see parts of it in these pics....they don't do it justice though!!
 

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I did my 36'x36'x14' pole barn 12ft ft up with knotty pine shiplap. The ship lap would be easier to replace if damaged. I needed too much to look through every board ahead of time, my local lumber yards wouldn't allow me to return unused special order items so I ended up ordering through Home Depot. I ordered around 20% extra. It ended up being a struggle finding enough good boards even with the extra. I can't find a good picture of just the pine but you can see it ok in the picture background.
 

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Trapps

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Menards has an off-the-shelf product that is reasonably priced and decent quality. I used it for the ceiling of my shop and have been happy with it. My only issue was them changing suppliers about halfway through my project which I was doing a bit at a time. I found the older profile at a store farther away but it was a PITA. Wherever you source it from, buy all you need (+ your fudge factor) at one time.
 

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Got mine from a couple of local sawmills.

Most from trees I cut myself. Some rough sawn by a one man sawmill and finished at another mill with planing capability, and some from logs provided by the mill.

I have had pine, cedar, and birch paneling and flooring milled that way, as well as oak trim. My brother in law gets a lot of shiplap done that way.

Not sure it’s a whole lot cheaper, or quicker than just ordering it from the local lumberyard, though, but at least I am supporting some local cottage industries.
If the OP has access to a nearby mill, I'd be all over that route. For my cottage ceiling, I picked up 1000 sq ft of 4, 5 and 6" T & G white cedar from a mill near Escanaba, MI for 1/2 what Menards charges for their red cedar product.

Loaded straight off the pile and had zero unusable boards.

And the owner gave out free jars of syrup. Win win!
 
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