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Looking to see if any forum member has the Kobalt 26 gallon Quiet Tech air compressor?

I am going to be replacing my old compresser and it looks like the Quiet Tech will fit the bill. I do not need this big of an air tank, but the next size down in the Quiet Tech series is too small.

I am okay with oilless because I only use the compressor several times a month and that is light usage. Wanted someone quiet to keep the family from complaining about the noise. Don't want to pay a lot for something I would not use much, hense the Kobalt.

So if anyone has the pros and cons, please let me know.
 
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I guess "quiet" is a subjective term. When compared to another oil-less compressor, it may indeed be more quiet, but not compared to an oiled model.

My oiled model has the Soleberg silencer, which helps, but I wouldn't call it "quiet" either. It's just quietER than an oil-less one.
 
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I guess "quiet" is a subjective term. When compared to another oil-less compressor, it may indeed be more quiet, but not compared to an oiled model.

My oiled model has the Soleberg silencer, which helps, but I wouldn't call it "quiet" either. It's just quietER than an oil-less one.

Point well taken.
 

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California air tools boasts super quiet oil-less air compressors. You sure this isn't just a rebrand of one of them?
 

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Oil-less and quiet are oxymoron's.

The California Air Tools compressors are really quiet. Not just kind of when compared to.... Quiet isn't interrent in the pump being oil or oil free. It's just that the earlier oil free compressors were really noisy. Newer designed and the marketing reality that quiet sells are changing things.

OP, no idea about that compressor. It's probably fine for light duty user which sounds like your plan. It didn't appear to be a version of the pump CAT (and many others) are using.
 
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California air tools boasts super quiet oil-less air compressors. You sure this isn't just a rebrand of one of them?

This has been mentoned by others, so there might some truth to this. If so, the Kobalt is noticeably cheaper than the CT. The plus side is if the Kobalt needs any warranty work, it will be easier to get the compressor to the repair facility. At least one would think.
 

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I bought one for my attached garage about 6 weeks ago to replace a cheap oil free compressor that I've since I built the house. I haven't used it much, but I can assure you that the noise level is much better than the old one. I could hear the old one everywhere in the house when it was running, the Quiet Tech I can only hear in the hallway going to the garage.

I bought a horizontal oiled Porter Cable compressor for my detached shop two weeks after I bought the Kobalt, it is substantially louder than the Kobalt.

I have a decibel meter app on my phone, I guess should make some comparisons.
 

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Here is a very unscientific noise comparison between the Lowes Quiet Tech oil free, and the Porter Cable oiled compressor, using a free app on my phone.

First the Kobalt. The reading of 88 was around 5 ft from the compressor, the reading of 102 was the highest reading I could get as close to the compressor as possible. The max reading you see in the picture is from releasing air from the compressor so it would run.







Same for the Porter Cable, the first reading of 111 is 5 ft from the compressor, 120 was the highest reading I could get.







I'm a little disappointed in the noise level of the Porter Cable, I expected the oiled compressor to be quieter than it is. If I had room for a vertical compressor in my shop, I would have definitely bought another Kobalt Quiet Tech compressor.
 

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OK, I just got a look at the pump in 383's picture. That's a similar design to the pumps that CAT is using on their compressors. No idea what the long term service life will be but they are quiet.
 

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OK, I just got a look at the pump in 383's picture. That's a similar design to the pumps that CAT is using on their compressors. No idea what the long term service life will be but they are quiet.

the on off switch is the same as CAT too.
I have the 26 gallon quiet tech and I am vary happy with the sound level. most air tools will be louder then the compressor.
 
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Okay, so far it looks like the Quiet Tech is given a thumbs up for the noise level.

Anyone see an issue with this compressor for the average weekend DIYer?
 
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I can absolutely 100% guarantee you that the California Air Tools compressor is quieter than any of the comprssors mentioned. Oiled or oiless. Period, case closed, drop dead.

I've got one of these:
https://www.zoro.com/california-air-tools-portable-air-compressor-1-hp-55-gal-5510se/i/G4125250/

My only gripe is that the on/off switch is pretty close to the relief valve and if you aren't paying attention you will discharge the tank by accident.


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I have the aluminum tank version of that compressor. Very quiet. The Kobalt in this case uses a similar pump. It appears to be like the "2hp" CAT pumps. CAT was one of the first companies to really push that pump setup. GMC sold a nearly identical model. I think other companies are discovering the design and realising similar models. While CAT is will known for quiet compressors they aren't the only game in town. That's good since CAT compressors, other than the pump, tend to be so-so on build quality. I got mine for a song because a seal in the pressure regulator was installed wrong from the factory. I also had to chase a leak down. Both those issues soldered and I love it for the light weight and low noise. Hopefully with other brands getting into the quiet game we'll see compressors with CAT noise levels but higher flow rates and better build.
 

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Okay, so far it looks like the Quiet Tech is given a thumbs up for the noise level.

Anyone see an issue with this compressor for the average weekend DIYer?

The pump is a bit on the slow side but the big tank will make that much of the time. The quiet pump means you won't mind having it running as you wait for the tank to refill. Only, if you intend to run air sanders or air ratchets or spray paint for extended periods of time would I worry that you may over work the pump.

Because this is oil free the Piston ring may wear out early but I suspect it won't be that hard to replace if needed 10-20 years from now.
 

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Don’t know about the bigger model, but I have the smaller model for air guns and such, and I can barely hear it over my old Nissan d21 idling when I fill up its tires. It’s very quiet.


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I would like a Quiet Tech version in the 15-20 gallon tank range for us weekend garage warriors. Under that seems too small and the larger 26 gallon is just over kill. I have a small one-car garage and space is at a premium. Plus, I need the vertical compressor, again because of available floor space.

Other than this is not a workhorse, no real negative comments. I believe the 26 gallon Quiet Tech comes with a 3 year warranty and if you couple it with a Lowes' low cost warranty, it stretches it out farther. Not too big on entended warranties, but if I can get this on sale, I may consider the warranty. Decisions, decisions.
 

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Oil-less and quiet are oxymoron's.
Apparantly, not any more. There is a new type of oil-less, pioneered by California Air Technologies and with similar designs starting to pop up under other brands. A decent amount of air and reliability are a separate issue. The Kobalt in question is 4.3@90. The serious quiet contender is the Eastwood scroll that is continuous duty at 10 cfm. That one uses oil, runs on 23OV and will set you back $1400 bucks plus shipping or sales tax.

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The serious quiet contender is the Eastwood scroll that is continuous duty at 10 cfm. That one uses oil, runs on 23OV and will set you back $1400 bucks plus shipping or sales tax.

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The Eastwood like some of the others on the market are desirable compressors, but unfortunately the prices are steep for us weekend family enthusiast DIYers.

We all like to have a top-shelf compressors, but have more of a rail-shelf budget.
 

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I guess "quiet" is a subjective term. When compared to another oil-less compressor, it may indeed be more quiet, but not compared to an oiled model.

My oiled model has the Soleberg silencer, which helps, but I wouldn't call it "quiet" either. It's just quietER than an oil-less one.

New generation of "Quiet" air compressors are truly quiet, California air tools has measured 56dba motors in some models. Most are around 67dba. It's insane how quiet these are.

Kobalt is basically an inferior clone, but a cheaper/larger tank.

For those wanting Husky brand, look at Husky Model C302H at home depot. More expensive but more powerful, higher scfm, higher psi, ~76dba with a 30gal tank
 
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Kobalt is basically an inferior clone, but a cheaper/larger tank.

The reviews that I read on the California Air Compressor left me worried about quality, a lot of people had problems with air leaks. I know, most people that are happy with something don't leave reviews.

So far, I'm happy with the Kobalt. I don't use it every day, and the cheap oil-less noise maker was still going strong when I got rid of after 16 years of use.
 

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New generation of "Quiet" air compressors are truly quiet, California air tools has measured 56dba motors in some models. Most are around 67dba. It's insane how quiet these are.

Kobalt is basically an inferior clone, but a cheaper/larger tank.

For those wanting Husky brand, look at Husky Model C302H at home depot. More expensive but more powerful, higher scfm, higher psi, ~76dba with a 30gal tank

Why do you think CAT is the superior original? Many people have complained about poor build quality and the like with CAT compressors. Mine was purchased for a song because it had issues (which I could correct easily enough). There was basically no difference between the CAT and GMC quiet compressors. I suspect CAT is nothing more than a brand that sells generic made in Asia stuff. Don't get me wrong, I've recommended a lot of their stuff but I see it for what it is.

Also, it should be noted that per CAT specs the "2hp" pumps are about 10 db louder than the "1hp" pumps. It would appear the Kobalt specs are right in line with the "2hp" pumps.
 

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I'm trying to decide between the Kobalt Quiet Tech 26 gallon and the California Air Tools 10 gal with auto drain (10020cad). I can get either for the same price ($290). I'm a weekend warrior -- no real supersized projects but I'd like to get something that provides a little headroom for occasional heavier use.

Is the CAT a better machine than the Kobalt? In what way?

Is the CAT's auto drain worth the smaller tank size compared to the Kobalt?


Thanks for any thoughts
 

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Quality wise I would have higher expectations for the Kobalt. Both have similar pumps but CAT is basically using otherwise low grade stuff. For example, I got my CAT for very little because the factory has put a gasket in the regulator upside down resulting in a bad leak. Other than quality, I think the CAT has a more powerful pump but a significantly smaller tank. Smaller is nice if you need to fill the compressor up to air up a tire but not great when you count on the tank to make up for the limits of the pump. The auto drain is nice but not a deal breaker for me. I would probably go with the Kobalt if nothing else than it will be local if I have issues with damage on delivery.
 

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Looking to see if any forum member has the Kobalt 26 gallon Quiet Tech air compressor?

I am going to be replacing my old compresser and it looks like the Quiet Tech will fit the bill. I do not need this big of an air tank, but the next size down in the Quiet Tech series is too small.

I am okay with oilless because I only use the compressor several times a month and that is light usage. Wanted someone quiet to keep the family from complaining about the noise. Don't want to pay a lot for something I would not use much, hense the Kobalt.

So if anyone has the pros and cons, please let me know.

Just stumbled upon this thread by accident, and I realize it's probably way too late to be helpful to you, Rich, but I figured I may as well chime in, anyway. I have owned this compressor about 3 years (give or take), so I have lots of experience with it. And even though it's an old thread, I've found lots of important info I needed on this forum and many others long after the initial thread was started.

For starters, let me be clear I'm not an expert on compressors, or on decibels. When I saw the skeptical/critical initial responses from someone who didn't sound like he's ever used one of these, I was kinda taken aback. But then I realized I've never owned an oiled compressor so I really had no idea how a typical oiled compressor compares to an oil-less. I was a bit surprised to learn he's right--apparently they are typically much quieter than oil-less. But there are many other important considerations that are worth discussing. The comment below will be the comment I wish I would have found when I was in the market for a compressor.

What I do have experience with is a porter cable pancake compressor. That's another oil-less. And the difference between that thing and my Kobalt Quiet-Tech 26-gallon compressor is night-and-day. In fact that's almost a literal turn of phrase in this case because there's not a chance I would have run the porter cable in my garage to do anything at night before, even being on a 2.5 acre property with good distance and trees between me and my neighbors. But with this Kobalt, running it at night would never bother a neighbor. (running the tools it powers may be another story 😅--but I have released the air from it at night, and the noise that makes is still quieter than running the porter cable pancake compressor).

The porter cable was loud enough that I couldn't stand to be in the same room with it unless I was wearing ear plugs. Even during the day I hated running it because I felt like a menace to society. The Kobalt is quiet enough that my buddy and I can stand next to it and have a conversation with only the slightest increase in speaking volume (quieter than a classy person's "inside voice," for sure, but we don't have to talk any louder than a couple dudes wrenching in a garage normally talk).

Rich--your original comment mentioned that you didn't need a tank this big; When I was shopping around before buying the Kobalt, I didn't either--but looking back I realize how much tank volume one "needs" depends on a lot of things I didn't understand at the time. Without getting too much into the weeds, let me just say that I did a TON of research before making this purchase, and weighed my options while being as thorough as possible about predicting what sorts of things I wish I'd considered before purchasing, so that I could consider them before purchasing--thinking about what I might want in the future, not just what I want now (or then, rather).

Depending what you're doing, there are small compressors with sufficient flow rate, but they can't safely sustain that flow rate long enough to do the work efficiently (safely means duty cycle, which I'll touch on below); some don't have adjustable regulators, which means they can blow up some tools; some have big tanks but crappy flow rates; some are quiet, but not as easy to transport; some oiled compressors can stand upright--that might matter for floor space (it mattered to me) can't always (maybe never) be laid down for storage or general use because of that. And when looking for a compressor that took into account all of the above, I don't recall a single other option that ticked every box. And certainly not for a comparable price. The price on this is considerably more affordable than buying an oiled compressor with a tank this size.

This compressor struck just the right balance between max pressure (150psi), air delivery/CFM (4.3@90psi, 4.5@100psi) for what I'd ever be likely to use it for. Having the bigger tank means it doesn't need to kick the motors on as often when you're not using it a lot, so that cuts down on the amount of time it makes noise in addition to it making less noise while it's running. And while oil-less compressors aren't considered to be as durable as oiled compressors, I considered that a.) I'm not running an automotive shop and not using the thing so frequently as to beat it to death quickly, and b.) at the time I was able to get 2 years of extra warranty provided by my credit card company (Costco Citi credit card, but they stopped offering this benefit in Jan. 2023, apparently).

Some other things I really like about it are:
• Ball valve-style lever on the very bottom for draining the air, which is deal for getting all the water out when it drains.
• Two outlets--you can connect two hoses at once so you don't have to swap tools back and forth.
• It's designed so it can be stored upright or laying down without getting damaged.
• It has a built in adjustable regulator on it, so you can control the output. This matters because a lot of tools are rated and only intended to be operated at 90 or maybe 100psi. Some can handle more just fine, some can't. So if you have a compressor that maxes at 150 and no regulator, you could blow your tools up. Buying a regulator to add to your setup that doesn't have one costs more money.
• 100% Duty Cycle* with thermal overload auto-shutoff. A lot of people seem to forget to take duty cycle into account. Speaking of tasks like media blasting, I've heard people say stuff like "oh I did it fine with my pancake compressor." Yeah maybe, but it probably took you 2-3 times longer than necessary (being generous), and even then you probably did lasting damage to the compressor motor. Those porter cable pancake compressors have a stated duty cycle of 50-75% (75% kills them quick in my experience). This Kobalt doesn't have a duty cycle, effectively putting it at 100%*. (I say * because it doesn't explicitly state a 100% duty cycle. If they claimed that, people would complain if they weren't able to run it continuously, and I'm sure it has its limits. That said, I've worked it pretty hard and never had it auto-shutoff on me before.)

With all of that editorializing and anecdotal experience out of the way, I found this video where a guy did a pretty good demonstration and as chance would have it--he actually conducted a comparison test between the kobalt quiet tech 26-gallon and the same porter cable pancake compressor I used to have. I'll go ahead and spoil the results: the readings show a difference of about 10 Db (which again means the pancake compressor is ten times louder. That would be hard to believe but when you watch the video that's rbut watch for yourself nonetheless, because I feel that the audible difference portrayed in the video is an excellent representation of the real world difference you'll experience running these two generators in a garage.

As the video demonstrates: you can really FEEL how much louder the porter cable is, even though this video only shows it running 10-11 Db quieter than the Kobalt. I wouldn't have thought a 10-11 Db difference would matter so much, but apparently 10 Db difference means ten times more noise, and believe me when I say you very much feel that difference in person. With that in mind, I think the statement that "quiet oil-less is an oxymoron" goes to show that, although he's clearly correct about the difference between oiled and oil-less, and I have no doubt he's heard lots of both, he clearly hasn't heard an oil-less nearly as quiet as the Kobalt Quiet Tech 26-gallon. Anyone who gets to try one of these first hand and still says it's not quiet has either got standards that are much too high (what can you possibly be expecting from a compressor? The tools you're going to use are going to be loud!) or they're being disingenuous because they've already stuck their foot in their mouth and they're afraid to admit they were wrong. (Foreshadowing. 😏)

Noise comparisons from the video:

The Porter Cable runs a hair above 85 Db on average according to the video creator's phone-connected Db-meter, the Kobalt has a 74-75 Db average noise level reading.

The official rating from Kobalt is 70 Db. I couldn't find the official Db rating Porter Cable's pancake compressor in the digital owner's manual, but this guy seems to know his stuff and tested it at about 80 Db.

That means the video below seems to be reading both compressors about 5 Db higher than expected, which might be because they're both against a wall and not far from the Db meter.

 

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I'm trying to decide between the Kobalt Quiet Tech 26 gallon and the California Air Tools 10 gal with auto drain (10020cad). I can get either for the same price ($290). I'm a weekend warrior -- no real supersized projects but I'd like to get something that provides a little headroom for occasional heavier use.

Is the CAT a better machine than the Kobalt? In what way?

Is the CAT's auto drain worth the smaller tank size compared to the Kobalt?


Thanks for any thoughts
To answer this question and the others that have come up mentioning CAT (California Air Tools):

No, Kobalt isn't a re-branded CAT as far as I can tell. They look a little similar at first, but CAT doesn't make a 26-gallon. Closest they make is 20-gallon. Their 20-gallon has higher flow rate than the Kobalt. It also costs about double ($650+tax) what the Kobalt did when I bought my Kobalt at $299, but it's now $379 so currently a difference of $270 (52.5%) between it and the CAT 20-gallon.

The guys saying Kobalt is an "inferior clone" and that CAT measures at 67 Db are respectively wrong and either wrong or full of ****, because CAT rates their own compressor at 70 Db. If it's 67 they have an opportunity to say so in their own specs, and they're not. If you're talking about a different compressor then take a hike, you're in the wrong conversation. To the guy who "guarantees" the CAT is quieter than any others: I want my money back, please. They Kobalt and CAT are both rated at 70 Db, and Dewalt and Fortress are both rated at 69 Db.

Lowe's lists both the Kobalt and CAT 20-gallon on their website, so you can compare the CAT 20-gallon to the Kobalt Quiet Tech 26 gallon side by side if you want.

And I just found out Harbor Freight has entered the arena. Harbor Freight's Fortress 26-gallon compressor listing on their website compares it against the Dewalt on a few main specs but I'm tired of researching so I'm only gonna mention the basics on the Dewalt.

Price (currently):
Fortress ($349.99) is $29.01 cheaper than next cheapest:
Kobalt ($379.00)
Dewalt ($618.45)
CAT ($649.87)

Noise level:
Dewalt and Fortress: 69 Dba
CAT and Kobalt: 70 Dba

Output:
CAT = 5.3 SCFM@90psi
Kobalt 4.5 SCFM@90psi
Fortress 4.5 SCFM@90psi
Dewalt 4.0 SCFM@90psi

Capacity (CAT=20 gallon, the rest are 26gal):
CAT 125psi max, 2.0hp motor - biggest motor (2.0hp) and smallest tank (20gal) so fills the quickest and probably recharges quickest
Kobalt = 150psi max, 1.8hp motor
Fortress = 175psi max, 1.5hp motor
Dewalt = 150psi max, motor = dyno test it yourself moneybags

All four are 4-pole brush-less dual piston motors
All four work on 110-120v outlets. (see amperage list below)

Relevant caveats:
• The Fortress instruction manual requires you to break in the motor for 30 minutes before initial use! This is NOT mention in the Kobalt or Dewalt manuals, and I don't know about CAT. I'm assuming the "good" brands break theirs in at the factory to idiot proof them.
• The fortress requires you to self-install the cheap plastic wheels before first use.
• Fortress manual instructs you to install an inline regulator and ball valve shutoff. The Kobalt and Dewalt don't mention this. I don't know about CAT. (Fortress' manual says the inline shutoff is an important safety feature in case the hose you're using ruptures, and the ball valve is easiest to shut off quickly. I guess they know their customers are more likely to use ****** hoses and/or run their hoses over while being inattentive or just because they don't think it matters.

And because you can compare these two both on Lowe's site, their specifications field lists the various tasks each compressor is suitable for, with the Kobalt being a Yes on many categories the CAT is not (to be clear, the list below is the things CAT can't do that Kobalt can). Fortress and Dewalt can't be compared here because it's not on the Lowe's site but for practical purposes I believe the Fortress should also be a Yes to all of these due to having equal flow rate and higher max pressure, Dewalt can probably do most but not all of them:

For Use with Roof Nailing
For Use with Sanding
For Use with HVLP Painting
For Use with Grinding
For Use with Drilling
For Use with Cutting
For Use with Surface Prep

If weight is a concern:
Dewalt: Depends who you listen to. The website says 112lbs, the manual downloaded from the website says 132.2. So either it's the heaviest of the bunch or by far the lightest of the bunch.
CAT = 120lbs
Kobalt = 125lbs
Fortress (Harbor Freight) = 130lbs

If amperage is a concern:
Kobalt: 12amp
Dewalt: 12.5amp
CAT: 14amp
Fortress: 15amp

If cord wraps are a concern:
Kobalt: air=big place to hang an air hose on front. power=good place to wrap the power cord and keep it safe near the motor, and plug has one of those little things that lets the plug clamp onto the cord so that it stays wrapped up
CAT: power=Meh, I guess you can wad it up and cram it into this nook on the front. air=screw you, carry it yourself, big boy
Dewalt: power=You can wad it up and cram it into our nook from front OR the back. 😏 and air= screw you, carry it yourself, big boy
Fortress: power=pretty similar to Kobalt (plug/cord clamp thing, has loops for wrapping, is in similar position to Kobalt's)

If wheels are a concern:
Kobalt: Heavy-duty semi-pneumatic wheels with metal hub
CAT: Steel wheels
Dewalt: Pneumatic tires
Fortress: "Flat free" (hard plastic) -- and you have to install them yourself. (Add this time to the 30-minute break-in on first use.)
 
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