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Blown V2

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Hey all, I was discussing a possible future box with my SO dealer yesterday and got a couple of prices. One for a KRL722, and a KRA2422. Now as far as I can see, these boxes are pretty similar.

The prices he gave me, the master series was $500 extra. Are the minor differences between them worth the extra coin, or would I be better off keeping the $500?

I did have my eye on a KRL1022, but the prices for them are ridiculous in Aus

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I have a KRL1022… I love it

I can't tell you the differences since it's been a while since I looked. I've had my box for several years
 
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I own a KRL722, and I LOVE it.

If you order new, I'd consider replacing the 10" narrow bank drawer with a 6" and a 4", or even with 2 4" and a 2", or something like that.
 

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I just traded in my classic 78 for a KRL722. To me its worth it if you want a more professional box. Plus the KRL boxes are built better, look better, and hold more weight.
 

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Those two boxes are the same size except for minor drawer layout differences, and the drawer construction is identical. If you look at the spare parts list, they actually have the same drawer part numbers.

The extra $500 will get you better slides (261lb vs. 120lb), better drawer liners, a better handle, a more stout cabinet body, and possibly better casters.
 

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Those two boxes are the same size except for minor drawer layout differences, and the drawer construction is identical. If you look at the spare parts list, they actually have the same drawer part numbers.

The extra $500 will get you better slides (261lb vs. 120lb), better drawer liners, a better handle, a more stout cabinet body, and possibly better casters.

Correct. The actual construction are very similar. A lot of people mistakenly believe that the KRL is a new box construction (e.g. thicker gauge steel all over) when it often isn't. That said i'd pay the extra, the drawer slides actually matter a lot and that's easily the biggest difference and it is noticeable.
 
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Thanks for the info. I might also get a price on a KRL7022 as well for comparison.

At the moment I'm just working out of a Heritage 40" roll cab and chest combo, but I'm at the stage where I need wider drawers, extra depth and a work surface. The dealer told me $6,000 for the KRL722 (remember, Australian prices), minus a $2,200 trade in which seems pretty decent I think.
 

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Calling the krl's "better" ain't exactly correct...they are taller and deeper though...and if I could have got a krl for 500 more than my kra2423 I would have...
 

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I see the error of my ways...get the krl in this case...you'll be happier for sure

KRA2423PC.jpg


As compared to this one

http://store.snapon.com/U-S-Set-6-Roll-Cab-Double-Bank-11-Drawers-Red-P649528.aspx

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Hey mate..
I would hold your nerve and watch ebay closely. I got my classic 78 and hutch for around $3000, basically brand new condition.
There is a krl 722 thats regularly advertised in Melbourne for around 4500 from memory. They've been trying to sell it without success for over a year on and off. That said the trade in your being offered is much better than you would get privately...
 

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Correct. The actual construction are very similar. A lot of people mistakenly believe that the KRL is a new box construction (e.g. thicker gauge steel all over) when it often isn't. That said i'd pay the extra, the drawer slides actually matter a lot and that's easily the biggest difference and it is noticeable.

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The Same can also be said when comparing the KRL to the Epiq. Here is a chart from the SO Catalog listing the sheet gauges. As my driver said, the biggest difference between the boxes is really with "Features" not "Quality". We were having a discussion on KRL vs EPIQ...and he said you cant really sit there and say one is Better then the other. IN terms of the Masters vs Classic, the biggest thing would be the slides themselves.
 

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There's two versions of KRL, one is 21" and another is 24" deep. I believe the Epiqs are 26".

Actually No.

KRL = 24 and 30" Depths available

I Believe all the EPIQ's are 30" Deep.


Maybe back in the day there were shallower ones, but I'm not aware of any I've personally seen. They've all been 24 or 30.
 

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Actually No.

KRL = 24 and 30" Depths available

I Believe all the EPIQ's are 30" Deep.


Maybe back in the day there were shallower ones, but I'm not aware of any I've personally seen. They've all been 24 or 30.

Actually No.

Current KRLs are 24 and 29" deep.
 
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Hey mate..
I would hold your nerve and watch ebay closely. I got my classic 78 and hutch for around $3000, basically brand new condition.
There is a krl 722 thats regularly advertised in Melbourne for around 4500 from memory. They've been trying to sell it without success for over a year on and off. That said the trade in your being offered is much better than you would get privately...
Thanks mate. Just had a quick search on eBay but not much there atm, what keywords generally bring those up?
There's two versions of KRL, one is 21" and another is 24" deep. I believe the Epiqs are 26".
A quick search for reference would have let you know that's is not the case.
 

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I have both the krl and kra.... A krl1023 with a classic 96 top box. For the money, I'd spend the extra $500 for the heavier slides, but as mentioned earlier, aside from that, the difference isn't huge. Both fine boxes. I do like the deep drawers if you went to the 7022... They are way deep at 29"!

All said, I'm a hobbiest- started with a HF, then classic 78, then 96, and now krl1023. I was really wanting the krl7023....: but I am super happy I went big with the 1023. Moral of the story, buy as big as you can , you will grow into it! Trust me. Big is never big enough! Wonder if I need a 1043????? Haha!
 
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Oh by the way. Not that I recommend it in any way shape or form.. but I was on the kincrome site a few days ago and they have a new industrial box with a hutch and side locker, looks big. High suggested price but it looks to be a different from the normal kincrome rubbish boxes.
 

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Shame for me they're so much cheaper in the US, it teases us Aussies seeing all your massive boxes!



The first two smaller Snappy boxes were bought new just a week apart a few years ago. My large 72" box was bought a few years prior. I think I got the deal of the century on all three of my boxes. I paid less then half for all three. The big box was a 10 months old warrenty replacement box. Guy who bought it 10 months prior complained about the paint. They replaces it. He owed $4500 on it still. So I bought it from my Snappy guy for what was owed on it. New was $8500. I financed it thru the truck and only paid about 300 in intrest before paying it off, so I paid about $4800 for an $8500 box.

The other two were purchased when Snap On had a "Cash for Clunkers" deal going on when the car industry here in the states was doing that at the time a few years ago. I had a 8 year old 40" wide 18" deep Kennedy machinist box, all roller bearing drawers, I bought new for $1000. Snap On was giving a cool $2500 for a spicific model 56" wide KRL Snap On box worth $5500 or bigger. So I traded in my Kennedy and got $2500 for it. Take the $2500 right off the top and thats $3k. For purchasing the box I got a $300 instant rebate I could put toward anything Snap On.

I used that discount on the tool truck and bought all the tools I wanted that were on special for a discounted cost. I also got an additional $300 dollar truck credit from my Snap On tool truck guy for purchasing the box thru him. I ordered the Snap On butcher block top on the middle red box. It was actually $331 but he gave it to me for the $300 the discount was for. So thats another $631 off $3k so down to $2269.

I also got a 6 month no intrest deal on this first red box I purchased with this deal, so all I paid for the red box was the $2269. It was such a good deal and the special was only lasting a few more days so I contacted my Snappy guy and said I wanted to trade in another box. The deal was ANY BOX WITH WHEELS. So I was going to trade in a 48" wide x 24" deep Red Waterloo rollcab I bought new 25 years prior for $1000 dollar.

Well a buddy I told about the deal asked if I would be willing to trade my big Waterloo for his girlfriends crappy little $159 dollar 4 drawer tool box, so she would have a nicer box? I said yes cause she gives us school clothes for our son all the time. Hand me down but lots of good clothes so I of course said sure. I delivered it to her and pickerd up this crappy Craftsman tool box,

http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-...00959496000P?prdNo=5&blockNo=17&blockType=G17

This one pictured is now $199, used to be $159. Anyways, I showed up with this box and he said no problem. So I bought a second blue $5500 Snappy box, except this time Snap On would not give me a $300 dollar credit or 6 months no intrest. I thought that sucked, hell I bought two! So I kind of bitched to my Snappy guy so he gave me the same $300 dollar truck discount as he did the first time. So for the 2nd box I got it down to $2700 with the $2500 dollar discount and the $300 truck discount. Again I bought only items on special.

Only this time I paid on it since I financed it too. Paid it off in about 8 months. Paid about $300 in intrest or about 3000 for the 2nd box with this deal. All totaled I paid right about $10k including all finance charges for boxes that totaled $19,200 NOT including finance and taxes. They are all now paid in FULL. I know I got a hell of a deal.
 

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The KRL just straight "feels" better. The KRA, in my opinion, feels cheaper. The drawers are more wobbly while the krl feels sturdy and stronger, which it is. The feeling of the drawers is what made me want the KRL.


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Thanks for the info. I might also get a price on a KRL7022 as well for comparison.

At the moment I'm just working out of a Heritage 40" roll cab and chest combo, but I'm at the stage where I need wider drawers, extra depth and a work surface. The dealer told me $6,000 for the KRL722 (remember, Australian prices), minus a $2,200 trade in which seems pretty decent I think.


I have the 7022 and like it. I would check out the 1022. Its a little more but the drawer config is better. There are 3 more tall drawers on the 1022. Once you realize that only sockets laying down and screwdrivers and punches fit in those thin drawers you will be begging for the taller drawers of the 1022. Also, buy bigger now because when you are older and have 95% of the tools you will ever need and are 100% full in your toolbox you aren't gonna wanna buy a whole new box just for a few more tools.

I think if money was no object I would keep my 7022 and buy a mobile workstation (krsc101) for a little extra storage that doubles as a cart.


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I have the 7022 and like it. I would check out the 1022. Its a little more but the drawer config is better. There are 3 more tall drawers on the 1022. Once you realize that only sockets laying down and screwdrivers and punches fit in those thin drawers you will be begging for the taller drawers of the 1022. Also, buy bigger now because when you are older and have 95% of the tools you will ever need and are 100% full in your toolbox you aren't gonna wanna buy a whole new box just for a few more tools.

I think if money was no object I would keep my 7022 and buy a mobile workstation (krsc101) for a little extra storage that doubles as a cart.


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I also have the 7022. I would also recommend checking out the 1022. I wish I had a couple more tall drawers. I love the wrench drawer, saves so much space.


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Actually No.

KRL = 24 and 30" Depths available

I Believe all the EPIQ's are 30" Deep.


Maybe back in the day there were shallower ones, but I'm not aware of any I've personally seen. They've all been 24 or 30.

Sorry I meant drawer depth, as I personally never gave two shits about the dimension of the box frame.

My KRA2422 is 24" deep too, but the drawers are 3" too short for my 24" prybars/breaker bars... Is it still 24" deep?

The KRL722 and KRA2422 is essentially the same box in different "trims". If you're going to park your box next to a wall, save some money and get the Classics. If your job requires you to always move your box to another location/bay, the KRL will be a better choice. The box is "stiffer", the wheels are bigger and the drawer slides are stronger, this makes for a sturdier box in mobile/transport.
 
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The price of a 1022 is just unrealistic in Aus, trust me that would be my first choice if I could afford it. There is always the possibility of building up on a 722 or 7022 in the way of risers, lockers etc. Something that isn't worth doing on a 20" deep heritage IMO.

I understand what you mean about the drawer depths, that's a good bit of advice that I will take into consideration. Thank you
 

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I have the 7022 and like it. I would check out the 1022. Its a little more but the drawer config is better. There are 3 more tall drawers on the 1022. Once you realize that only sockets laying down and screwdrivers and punches fit in those thin drawers you will be begging for the taller drawers of the 1022. Also, buy bigger now because when you are older and have 95% of the tools you will ever need and are 100% full in your toolbox you aren't gonna wanna buy a whole new box just for a few more tools.

I think if money was no object I would keep my 7022 and buy a mobile workstation (krsc101) for a little extra storage that doubles as a cart.


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I plan on using a KRL1056 for extra storage that doubles as a cart. Has anyone had any experience with the KRL 1056?
 

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The first two smaller Snappy boxes were bought new just a week apart a few years ago. My large 72" box was bought a few years prior. I think I got the deal of the century on all three of my boxes. I paid less then half for all three. The big box was a 10 months old warrenty replacement box. Guy who bought it 10 months prior complained about the paint. They replaces it. He owed $4500 on it still. So I bought it from my Snappy guy for what was owed on it. New was $8500. I financed it thru the truck and only paid about 300 in intrest before paying it off, so I paid about $4800 for an $8500 box.

The other two were purchased when Snap On had a "Cash for Clunkers" deal going on when the car industry here in the states was doing that at the time a few years ago. I had a 8 year old 40" wide 18" deep Kennedy machinist box, all roller bearing drawers, I bought new for $1000. Snap On was giving a cool $2500 for a spicific model 56" wide KRL Snap On box worth $5500 or bigger. So I traded in my Kennedy and got $2500 for it. Take the $2500 right off the top and thats $3k. For purchasing the box I got a $300 instant rebate I could put toward anything Snap On.

I used that discount on the tool truck and bought all the tools I wanted that were on special for a discounted cost. I also got an additional $300 dollar truck credit from my Snap On tool truck guy for purchasing the box thru him. I ordered the Snap On butcher block top on the middle red box. It was actually $331 but he gave it to me for the $300 the discount was for. So thats another $631 off $3k so down to $2269.

I also got a 6 month no intrest deal on this first red box I purchased with this deal, so all I paid for the red box was the $2269. It was such a good deal and the special was only lasting a few more days so I contacted my Snappy guy and said I wanted to trade in another box. The deal was ANY BOX WITH WHEELS. So I was going to trade in a 48" wide x 24" deep Red Waterloo rollcab I bought new 25 years prior for $1000 dollar.

Well a buddy I told about the deal asked if I would be willing to trade my big Waterloo for his girlfriends crappy little $159 dollar 4 drawer tool box, so she would have a nicer box? I said yes cause she gives us school clothes for our son all the time. Hand me down but lots of good clothes so I of course said sure. I delivered it to her and pickerd up this crappy Craftsman tool box,

http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-...00959496000P?prdNo=5&blockNo=17&blockType=G17

This one pictured is now $199, used to be $159. Anyways, I showed up with this box and he said no problem. So I bought a second blue $5500 Snappy box, except this time Snap On would not give me a $300 dollar credit or 6 months no intrest. I thought that sucked, hell I bought two! So I kind of bitched to my Snappy guy so he gave me the same $300 dollar truck discount as he did the first time. So for the 2nd box I got it down to $2700 with the $2500 dollar discount and the $300 truck discount. Again I bought only items on special.

Only this time I paid on it since I financed it too. Paid it off in about 8 months. Paid about $300 in intrest or about 3000 for the 2nd box with this deal. All totaled I paid right about $10k including all finance charges for boxes that totaled $19,200 NOT including finance and taxes. They are all now paid in FULL. I know I got a hell of a deal.

That is a helluva collection of boxes you have there. Are they all full?
 

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Just purchased a krl1022, I love that box, coming from a Matco 4sa7275fd8bb93ce9fc04cac65255d7f28.jpga488052eacc7f62f81db62c1875aca17.jpg

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The Same can also be said when comparing the KRL to the Epiq. Here is a chart from the SO Catalog listing the sheet gauges. As my driver said, the biggest difference between the boxes is really with "Features" not "Quality". We were having a discussion on KRL vs EPIQ...and he said you cant really sit there and say one is Better then the other. IN terms of the Masters vs Classic, the biggest thing would be the slides themselves.

This is a really good explanation of the differences. Does anyone know where the KRSC carts fall with their construction? Are the considered part of the heritage series? If not what would their specs be?

See Spudland_Dave’s original post for the graphic.
 

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This is a really good explanation of the differences. Does anyone know where the KRSC carts fall with their construction? Are the considered part of the heritage series? If not what would their specs be?

See Spudland_Dave’s original post for the graphic.

The krsc carts use the same drawers and slides as the KRA box that is the same dimension. It seems to me all they do is put a different top and lid on, add some corner bumpers and send it out the door.
 
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