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Lagun Mill, anyone know anything about these?
- Thread starter nine4gmc
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Ign
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Spanish. Solid machines, parts are still available. Basically Bridgeports, with a few arguable improvements (which I don't recall). I've run a few in school and at employers.
That one looks rough, around here where machine tools sell sky high it'd still fetch $2000, maybe even $2500. Other parts of the country that's $500-1000
That one looks rough, around here where machine tools sell sky high it'd still fetch $2000, maybe even $2500. Other parts of the country that's $500-1000
That machine is junk. Looks like they used it as a boat anchor or outside, LOL. Lagun is sill out of California. I had a very nice mill I picked up for a song at 1000. Then sold it for 1500 year later. But that's what a super tight clean one is worth 1000-1500 in perfect working order with a good tight table. They do not command the dollars a Bridgeport gets. But like most of these machines there is what people ask for them and what they actually sell for.
blazemaster83
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That one looks pretty beat up, but it looks to be an ft4. It may be worth checking out. Those came with 3 axis powerfeed and a variable speed 40 taper spindle. It could just need a really good cleaning, but it's missing some handles.
2002maniac
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Solid machines. I ran one in a prototype shop right next to a Bridgeport and preferred the lagun. This one could probably be brought back but it's a bit crusty.
The owner knows nothing about it, it is surplus and he more than likely picked it up at auction. He is asking $1500 as-is condition. That's the only two pics I took, I tried spinning the spindle by hand but it was greasy and tight, idk if it was locked or what. The cords did not look burned or heat damaged BUT I did noticed the oxidation and wondered what caused it. I thought perhaps someone sprayed it with an acidic cleaner or something.
Would it be worth a chance at ANY price? like $500-$1000? or should I just run away. I already lost interest at asking price when I saw it and spoke to him but he has to have everything out of the warehouse soon so there may be room for negotiations.
manwithtools
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With that long of a table, the ways will be worn in the middle 10" of travel and the ends will be tight. It looks very rough, I'd pass. There are better deals out there even if you need to ship or travel to get one. If you want to chance it, I'd pay no more than scrap metal value.
Maybe @ $500 tops, you could part it out if it doesn't pan out ie run. X2 on fire or flood?
vpd66
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I have a FT-2 That I paid $900.00 with DRO that was in a shop working when I bought it. That is way too much for that machine. A lot of hidden problems can be there without being able to try it under power. The variable speed drive is like a snowmobile clutch setup and if it wasn't taken care of it will cost a bunch to get it working right. Stay clear unless you can get it for under $500 even then expect the worst.
Doug Arthurs
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With the amount of work it takes to move it I would say free would be the most I would pay. I have a slightly worn but very usable Bridgeport that if I were to sell I would probably ask around $1000. That is fully powered for testing step pulley had. Auto feed demonstrated to work.
ptschram
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I might consider it if I could buy it for $500 delivered to my shop.
In order for that to function as it did originally, you'd most likely be looking at a full machine rebuild. That includes re scraping the ways and table, as well as replacing every bearing in it for starters. This is not a cheap service. My guess would be $7-10,000, as it is a very labor intensive process.
As someone who enjoys quality equipment and bringing old pieces back to life, I can say with a good deal of confidence that your looking at scrap value. Sad to see a nice mill neglected like that.
Another thing to keep in mind is that the machine you looked at is in a larger class than a typical series 1 Bridgeport that is so commonly found. We're talking 5 HP, increased X,Y,Z feeds, and 4,000 lbs of iron. This is great if you need it, but it can be a bit of a burden if your short on floor space.
As someone who enjoys quality equipment and bringing old pieces back to life, I can say with a good deal of confidence that your looking at scrap value. Sad to see a nice mill neglected like that.
Another thing to keep in mind is that the machine you looked at is in a larger class than a typical series 1 Bridgeport that is so commonly found. We're talking 5 HP, increased X,Y,Z feeds, and 4,000 lbs of iron. This is great if you need it, but it can be a bit of a burden if your short on floor space.
Maui
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Lagun mills are quality machines, and I would take one over a Bridgeport any day if they are in good working order. Like others have posted above that one looks pretty rough. There was one for sale locally last summer and the guy selling it had it in pieces. It clearly had some issues, so I passed. Based on what I see in the photos I would suggest walking away from this one too.
Maui
Maui
In order for that to function as it did originally, you'd most likely be looking at a full machine rebuild. That includes re scraping the ways and table, as well as replacing every bearing in it for starters. .
That includes re scraping the ways and table
Lets reiterate this again. A lathe, mill, or other machine with ways does wear. This is not a machine where a clean and repaint constitutes a "restoration" A machine tool relies on things being flat, straight, and parallel or perpendicular to make precision parts. A worn out, pretty'ed up vise is still quite usable. A worn out, pretty'ed up machine tool is still worn out and perty much unsuitable for what it is designed to do.
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APEowner
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Nine - Judging by the looks of that machine and knowing what your area went through recently I'm guessing that machine spent some time underwater. I'd pass.
bczygan
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I would cut to the chase with this guy.
Don't waste your time, or his. Call him up and tell him, that if he can't power it up, you are going to start negotiations with a cap of $500. If he's still interested,then you do some investigation on how to evaluate a mill.
If inspection shows it to be in workable condition, cosmetics don't matter at that price point. Try to find what caused it though.
Delivery shouldn't cost much. Rent a drop deck trailer and use pipe rollers, a big pry bar and chain binders to secure it.
Don't waste your time, or his. Call him up and tell him, that if he can't power it up, you are going to start negotiations with a cap of $500. If he's still interested,then you do some investigation on how to evaluate a mill.
If inspection shows it to be in workable condition, cosmetics don't matter at that price point. Try to find what caused it though.
Delivery shouldn't cost much. Rent a drop deck trailer and use pipe rollers, a big pry bar and chain binders to secure it.
If you don't know how to evaluate a mill, this is not the one for you at any price.
Location is everything, but around here that is a $1500 mill if you see it running. Not being under power cuts the value in half automatically. Value is a scrap price. That way you are only out rigging and time if it turns out to be a lump ot metal in stead of a mill. $7-10k is a bit of a stretch to restore it. Maybe if you paid someone else to do everything, but it is a time intensive process and it requires tools most people do not have laying around.
If it was in decent shape it has the potetial to be a really nice machine. There are lots of things I like about the setup.
Location is everything, but around here that is a $1500 mill if you see it running. Not being under power cuts the value in half automatically. Value is a scrap price. That way you are only out rigging and time if it turns out to be a lump ot metal in stead of a mill. $7-10k is a bit of a stretch to restore it. Maybe if you paid someone else to do everything, but it is a time intensive process and it requires tools most people do not have laying around.
If it was in decent shape it has the potetial to be a really nice machine. There are lots of things I like about the setup.