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Murdoch

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HI folks I have some questions about laminate flooring.
I live in an apartment with parquet wood floor that has been heavily damaged due to a flood.
I want to replace the entire floor with a laminate, I just need to do my homework.
I am looking for a snap click type laminate. My apartment is over above ground garages. Any suggestions of what I need to do would be appreciated. Thanks in advance...George
 
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rsanter

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Are the parquet floors glued down?
If putting the laminate floors over the old floors you need to isolate them to help reduce clicking noise when walking on them.
Some laminate floors have a thin pad on the back of them, most don't.
I have always used roofing felt but there is a slightly more expensive product for the purpose.

Bob
 

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There is foam underpayment that comes in rolls. There are also floors that come with the padding attached to the flooring itself. I prefer that kind but it doesn't matter really. If there are any flaws, dips or humps in the flooring you are going over they will need to be repaired as th y will telegraph through your finished floor. Lumber Liquidaters has quite a few nice floors for just under$2 a square foot. Stay away from the really cheap floors as they are a nightmare to install. You won't be happy and neither will your landlord. Big box stores are fairly expensive and their selection is limited. Unless on sale. I prefer LL
 
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This is what I have to work with. The damage is in patches, small and large throughout the entire apartment. I know my wife hates it as the home is a place of comfort and a reflection of your character. Now we can move to a different apartment to have the floor repaired, but right now there isn't any available. I would like to try an do this without her know in, if I can. I am going to measure the layout and try to do the math...
 

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Was the flooding somehow your fault, Murdoch? If not, why are you fixing the floor instead of the landlord?
 
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Murdoch

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Not my fault. This happened a few years back and the property management employs hacks. I've been here 10 years and I live in Toronto where the rents are far too high to move, so I will be here another 10 or more. No different than painting in my opinion, you don't like the paint then repaint at your cost.
 
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It's easy just take all the existing floor up.
if the laminate is not padding attached you have to put a padding
Otherwise you put a moisture barrier down. Not even sure if it's necessary for a high rise
But it helps the laminate float.

If you don't take the baseboard out you will need a quarter round to cover then gap for expansion. If you take the baseboard out and put in new one be aware it can be quite a job for the entire place
 
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1st off, do you have permission from the landlord on replacing the flooring? It's not the same as painting, in my opinion.
Don't go cheap on the laminate, it will look cheap as soon as it's down and look even cheaper as time goes on. I speak from experience here. Cheap laminate will scratch and dent really easy.

Any chance of the flooding happening again? If so, don't go with laminate it will ruin too easy with water.
 
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I would ask for permission first. This is a 5 storey building. No chance of flooding as the problem has been dealt with. I am aware of the importance of value and getting what you pay for.
 

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The engineered wood click-lock floors are a lot quieter than laminate.
Spend some money and get the quietest backer/pad they offer.
Leave an expansion joint around the perimeter.
Base shoe or quarter round molding will cover the expansion gap without having to remove the existing baseboard.

I've done laminate and engineered wood (plywood with a hardwood face) and have been happy with the looks of both- but the hardwood is definitely quieter. Some of the newer laminates have done a great job registering texture with the woodgrain and are nearly indistinguishable from real wood, so you may opt for that instead. I'd definitely snap a few pieces together in the store and walk on them to see how "clicky" (noise) they are.

The finished job is only as good as the prep work underneath- you're going to have to remove all the parquet or do a good job of patching the loose tiles before you even think about covering them up.

Good luck, post photos of the finished project!
 

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Prep - all the floating floor specs I've ever read call for no more than 3/16" out of flat and level across 10' (for every floating floor, not just laminate), so you'll need to do some patching and leveling even if you can scrape out all the old parquet. If you install your click flooring on an uneven substrate, the finished floor will feel springy and sound hollow, you might be able to see it move when you walk on it, and the t&g joints will be stressed by the movement and will eventually fail.

Pad - good separate pad will have an integrated moisture barrier, will have published IIC and STC (sound transmission) ratings, and will make the finished floor sound better.

Product - I'd avoid laminate entirely, and use a WPC-type floating luxury vinyl like Coretec. It's a hot new trend, and every distributor and his grandma has a line of it. Laminate (with a few exceptions) is easily damaged by moisture; WPC click vinyl is waterproof. It's also slightly quieter and less "clicky" - sounding than laminate, though a laminate installed over a well-prepped sub with a good-quality separate pad shouldn't be particularly noisy under ordinary foot traffic.

You mentioned that the flooding problem has been dealt with, but in multifamily construction there is always the chance of more flooding. I know several contractors who do nothing but rebuild water-damaged condos in the Seattle area. Someone's dishwasher (or icemaker, or washing machine, or...) supply line is always breaking and leaking while they're on vacation...

More to the point, surface water like a dog dish, a spilled drink, even a sweating grocery bag with frozen goods inside can damage a laminate floor. The core is just dense fiberboard.

Just like painting, just like PugetDude said, the prep work is the backbone of a successful install. I'd look at Ardex or Uzin for prep products if they're available in your market, they both make a dizzying array of patching and leveling products.

Good luck!

JR
 

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I just put down the luxury vinyl in my house.

US Floors, coretec plus XL.

They are 9" wide and 6' long, goes quick and is very forgiving.

Has cork on the back and does not click.

Have a 115 lb dog and he does not appear to have any affect on it scratch wise.
 
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Murdoch

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I just put down the luxury vinyl in my house.

US Floors, coretec plus XL.

They are 9" wide and 6' long, goes quick and is very forgiving.

Has cork on the back and does not click.

Have a 115 lb dog and he does not appear to have any affect on it scratch wise.

Any pics?
 
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