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Hi all,

First-time land-owner here. Purchased 5 acres in need of some landscaping. A lot of the property is heavily wooded, but also has a cleared area with a fruit orchard and many other younger trees planted a little haphazardly by the previous owner.

We have the following goals:
  • Clear around the house for easier access/mowing/pest control
  • Clear some wooded space to expand parking and build a 2-car garage w/storage for moderate equipment
  • Clear some field space for horse paddocks

  • Clean up driveway entry for safety
We have some experience cutting down trees, and bushes. There's room to stack wood and compost, though we already have a big brush pile left from previous owners, and I don't want to burn brush due to fire risk and close neighbors. We have a community transfer station that will accept brush two days per week. I'd rather reserve spending money for mandatory big tree jobs we can't handle ourselves. We own tools like a lawn tractor, chainsaws, axes, and trimmers.

We have questions like: Do you wait until Fall? Cut brush down to small bundles and take to the dump? Pile it up and rent a chipper once or twice per year? Buy a chipper or other equipment? Throw it all over the woods and let nature do it's thing? What do you do with tree stumps? Is this going to take us years of weekends to accomplish?

Curious to hear what has worked for everyone's yard cleanup and site clearing DIY.

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You land looks amazing.

Around here, for land clearing, we can get by with a heavy bobcat. Typically cut the tree, then leave 3' of stump and "pop" it out by ramming it. You're obviously farther north and your root systems may be a lot deeper and this won't work elsewhere.

For "big piles" - I'll either bring in a team with a large chipper (usually 3-4 guys) they make quick work of it. Anything they cannot chip gets pushed into a big burn pile and I'll burn it when it's safe. You can rent "big chippers" around here, but it's hard for me to justify the rental cost when I can get the same thing in a local service and they are MUCH faster than I am.

Up north, We cut/stack logs, then use a 40hp Kubota tractor that has a chipper attachment. Frankly that tool scares the **** out of me.

I have had it done "all in one" once. My neighbor rented a TigerCat - and loaned it to me for about an hour. This eats everything - trees, rocks, whatever... It mulches everything. I've never seen one of these north of Oklahoma though.



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Do you have a fulltime job? Do you have other projects you need to spend time on? Dealing with trees is a lot of work. I had almost two dozen mature trees dropped and it took me probably 2-3 weekends to cut up the wood for firewood, still haven't split it, that's for winter. Also I like to play in the woods once temps get below freezing, keeps the critters and plants down (deer here clean up the woods by mid Dec down to nothing).
 
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You land looks amazing.

Around here, for land clearing, we can get by with a heavy bobcat. Typically cut the tree, then leave 3' of stump and "pop" it out by ramming it. You're obviously farther north and your root systems may be a lot deeper and this won't work elsewhere.

For "big piles" - I'll either bring in a team with a large chipper (usually 3-4 guys) they make quick work of it. Anything they cannot chip gets pushed into a big burn pile and I'll burn it when it's safe. You can rent "big chippers" around here, but it's hard for me to justify the rental cost when I can get the same thing in a local service and they are MUCH faster than I am.

Up north, We cut/stack logs, then use a 40hp Kubota tractor that has a chipper attachment. Frankly that tool scares the **** out of me.

I have had it done "all in one" once. My neighbor rented a TigerCat - and loaned it to me for about an hour. This eats everything - trees, rocks, whatever... It mulches everything. I've never seen one of these north of Oklahoma though.



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Wowee, that is some serious machinery. The soil is fairly sandy, so I'm hoping it'll be easy to dig up bushes and "pop" stumps out, however we try to do that. I like your idea of bringing in a crew to chip the piles to save time.
 

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I spent an entire weekend piling up brush that my tree guy told me he'd chip when they showed up Monday to do other work.

It was through the chipper in seconds and was off my property as soon as they finished. The right equipment makes a huge difference.

I'm a big fan of hauling stuff off to keep the woods clear. Less fuel for a fire, less places for rodents to build nests, less ticks, etc.

I have a buddy that would rent a decent size chipper every spring and a few of us would get together to clean stuff up. It's a loud, dangerous day. If you don't want the chips and have a place to dispose, I'd haul it off.

I am an avid diy'r and now hire this kind of stuff out. Save my energy and time for things requiring more precision and care
 
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Do you have a fulltime job? Do you have other projects you need to spend time on? Dealing with trees is a lot of work. I had almost two dozen mature trees dropped and it took me probably 2-3 weekends to cut up the wood for firewood, still haven't split it, that's for winter. Also I like to play in the woods once temps get below freezing, keeps the critters and plants down (deer here clean up the woods by mid Dec down to nothing).
Yes, full time job, but work remote at home, so evenings and weekends can be used for property work. We have an endless list with this house, but figured we can spend winters doing indoor projects. We mainly want to repair/stain the cedar siding and get a deck on the house to enjoy this year. Cleaning up the land will likely be in phases depending on which project it impacts and the timing.
 
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I spent an entire weekend piling up brush that my tree guy told me he'd chip when they showed up Monday to do other work.

It was through the chipper in seconds and was off my property as soon as they finished. The right equipment makes a huge difference.

I'm a big fan of hauling stuff off to keep the woods clear. Less fuel for a fire, less places for rodents to build nests, less ticks, etc.

I have a buddy that would rent a decent size chipper every spring and a few of us would get together to clean stuff up. It's a loud, dangerous day. If you don't want the chips and have a place to dispose, I'd haul it off.

I am an avid diy'r and now hire this kind of stuff out. Save my energy and time for things requiring more precision and care
Do you remember the cost to have it chipped and hauled? Just curious about a rough number. Agree time can be well-spent elsewhere.
 

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Do you remember the cost to have it chipped and hauled? Just curious about a rough number. Agree time can be well-spent elsewhere.
It was several years ago and in MA...probably not all that helpful. Total job was around 10k, but that included removing a bunch of large trees and removing all of it.

In VA, I'm paying a little under 1k for big trees in non-precarious spots.

I've had some huge stuff chipped. Best were poplars over 80ft tall. Dropped them and used a mini ex to stick them in a huge chipper like a pencil sharpener. Absolutely devoured them
 

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Yes, full time job, but work remote at home, so evenings and weekends can be used for property work. We have an endless list with this house, but figured we can spend winters doing indoor projects. We mainly want to repair/stain the cedar siding and get a deck on the house to enjoy this year. Cleaning up the land will likely be in phases depending on which project it impacts and the timing.
I'm in a similar situation, about a year ahead of you (down to the cedar siding), its funny how priorities change once you get settled in. I'm sure you'll do fine, but one piece of advice, leave time for regular life and fun activities. I've been busting my rear for a year straight with no end in sight, and more and more realizing that I need to have fun and enjoy what I have vs just clearing stuff off the list.
 

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I cleared an area for my 28 x 32 garage - 2 dozen pines between 6 and 12" diameters. Rented an industrial size chipper for a day and took care of all but big trunks, which I cut into 6 to 8' pieces, picked up by a wood burner - those outside boilers. Rented a brush hog to get rid of small stuff - bushes to 6'.

My excavator pulled all the stumps in a very few minutes before foundation excavation.

I'm retired and enjoyed the work. Probably a $1000-1500 versus $10,000 if I hired it done.

Got a price to remove 3 similar trees on other side of house - and close to my house and neighbors - $2200. My son and I will do it.
 

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We have questions like: Do you wait until Fall?
I cut all year long. Just work to stay hydrated in the Summer.

Cut brush down to small bundles and take to the dump? Pile it up and rent a chipper once or twice per year? Buy a chipper or other equipment? Throw it all over the woods and let nature do it's thing?
I'll burn brush that's near the house. If I'm out in the woods cutting invasives like bush honeysuckle, I either pull it into small piles or let it lay where it drops.

What do you do with tree stumps?
If it's in a spot where leaving a stump is a problem (middle of yard, in a future building envelope, etc.), I knock the tree over with the Bobcat, then cut it up.
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Is this going to take us years of weekends to accomplish?
That's up to you. Personally, I've logged 61h23m over the past year working just over 50 acres, mostly focused on ~6 acres of heavily infested forest. If you're into fitness at all, ******** a smart watch or fitness tracker when you get out there to work, as it's pretty neat to see the stats later. I'm at 52.99 miles and 7518 feet of elevation gain in those 61 hours over the past year.

If you're cutting brush, I highly recommend buying a decent brush cutter. I use a 52cc unit with a 9" Forester blade to clear out invasives. Working with a chain saw, pole saw, or just about anything else is going to take more time and require more physical energy.

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Hi all,

First-time land-owner here. Purchased 5 acres in need of some landscaping. A lot of the property is heavily wooded, but also has a cleared area with a fruit orchard and many other younger trees planted a little haphazardly by the previous owner.

We have the following goals:
  • Clear around the house for easier access/mowing/pest control
  • Clear some wooded space to expand parking and build a 2-car garage w/storage for moderate equipment
  • Clear some field space for horse paddocks

  • Clean up driveway entry for safety
We have some experience cutting down trees, and bushes. There's room to stack wood and compost, though we already have a big brush pile left from previous owners, and I don't want to burn brush due to fire risk and close neighbors. We have a community transfer station that will accept brush two days per week. I'd rather reserve spending money for mandatory big tree jobs we can't handle ourselves. We own tools like a lawn tractor, chainsaws, axes, and trimmers.

We have questions like: Do you wait until Fall? Cut brush down to small bundles and take to the dump? Pile it up and rent a chipper once or twice per year? Buy a chipper or other equipment? Throw it all over the woods and let nature do it's thing? What do you do with tree stumps? Is this going to take us years of weekends to accomplish?

Curious to hear what has worked for everyone's yard cleanup and site clearing DIY.

Pics provided for reference.

Man, this is almost the same situation I was in last year. New place on acreage that required a lot of land maintenance. It sounds like you have the visions and tools, now it's just a matter of the physical work. Congratulations on the new place, that's exciting!

Your place is really green, looks good.

Start around the house, prune up and trim nearest the house first and work your way out. Take down any trees now that they are fall hazards. For reasonable items that needs to be pruned back, I'd wait until fall/winter to help keep the tree healthy. You can mark themniw though so you know what limbers to cut. Otherwise everything looks the same, gangly and dormant and its hard to know what to trim.

If you have dead standing, take it down now, same for dead limbs attached to otherwise healthy trees. They house termites, beetles, ants and other wood borers that can cause problems and infect other trees.

Burn the trash wood pile. It'll house bugs, rodents and cause problems if you leave it. You don't need to burn it all in one huge pile, that can be a pretty dangerous proposition if your vegetation is tall and you dont have the wide berth for the flames and heat. Instead designate an area you can have a good sized fire pit. Dig it down, and use it like a recreational burn while you gradually widdle the pile away, burning when you have free time. Keep the fire snall and manageable. Itll take time, but its safe and you WILL get through it. Believe me, I did the same. Took 4 mths.

You mentioned renting a chipper once or twice a year. That's a good idea as long as it's the big commercial pull behind chipper. These homeowner sized chippers are undersized and underpowered to get through anything other than straight branches and limbs.

I burned and chipped branches, burning was much easier.

Do purchase a brush mower. I've got a DR Mower Pro XL30 22HP
This thing will clear brush no problem. Itll take down undergrowth and handle sapplings up to 3". Its a big machine.

For stumps, cut them down as close to thr ground as possible so they don't damage any axles on mowers or utvs cause they stick up too far. You might actually get tree regrowth if you leave them. If that's your goal, let it be after that. If you want to kill the stump, use the saw to crosscut the top like a waffle fry. It'll rot.

Depending on how long the property was neglected you could whip it into shape in a year. But itsnot out of the question itll take a few years to see the property get healthy and see the results of your work. I will say, you will see a difference in a year. And each time you work on a piece, take before and after photos so you can see your progress.

I would advise doing your study for a utv or compact tractor. Both will be useful. Only you can determine which to buy (first). The utv is a huge help to carry tools, gear, people and firewood, water etc.

For this size property youll still need a range of equipment as it jumps off away from residential and put you into needing commercial strength machines. Don't skimp on equipment. But you'll need small stuff too around the house, to trim and mow. But youll need heavier equipment for the property further out.
 
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Nice looking place you got there. I'd get your retired Dad to do most of that type work for you- when and if he ever comes back from his boating adventures.
My dad will never retire, mostly because I need someone to enjoy my lawn tractor before Sunday dinner.
 

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Stumps, right flush and let nature do its thing SLOWLY or leave them 2' or better yet 3' tall you can see them and have enough to grab with a chain to pull them out! Big stumps will need a "BIG" truck and very heavy duty chain (1/2"+) to pull this is with some danger from breaking chains whipping! Wet the ground before pulling to soften the ground, or after a good storm but that is **** for traction (so +/-). You can rent a "Stumper" but they look slow and hard to use. I haven't needed one since they have become available so no hands on experience here. Maybe get a half dozen stumps ready at a time and have a pro come and rid yourself of them. Harry
 

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Nice place.

Cut, pile then rent the BIGGEST chipper you can for a half day and chip it for mulch. Little home chipper are for gardens and would be useless for your chipping.

I know, I bought a Bearcat and I spent a huge amount of time. Later I hired an arborist with their chipper. They could not load it fast enough and we got a huge pile of mulch.

Don't clear too much that's where critters live. Secondly, horses will clear out a huge amount of the stuff. There's a guy on tiktok that is clearing his land. He puts hay bales in the bush and the horses break down the vegetation and eat the rest while they are hanging out in the area. Horses were / are wild animals and they know how to do it.
 

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I cleared mine with a Dingo with a brushhog n stump grinder, a rope, and a couple chainsaws. It took me a few years to dispose of about 1000 trees. Trunks became firewood. Slash went into the swampy bits and other low spots, to rot down. I just finished capping the last swamp.
 

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I did not have to do any clearing, but when we got our couple of acres, there were years of downed trees and branches. As others have suggested, one big pile and a commercial chipper rental.

I forget the cost, but I reduced a garage-sized pile in the back, and several smaller piles in the front of the house in a day. The usual provisos--no loose clothing, ear/eye protection, and lots of care where you are standing and what you are loading...

Now if I could figure out a way to get a Kubota to get serious about landscaping!
 
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With the amount of land you have I would not worry about fire or the neighbors. If you burn, let brush dry, cover it if possible for a couple months, pick a day a couple days after rain, watch your wind speed and direction. On a still day a hot fire will push smoke up so you would not need to consider the neighbors.

As to any wood you pile up for heating, if on soil termites just will love you for your generous offering, so Termidor (insecticide) the soil area. Do your outside of your new home also, treatment lasts 10 years, DIY, buy it online (Ebay or Google for it, cheap <$75). If pro do it, it will cost >$1000 (total ripoff for <days work).

God thing you work remotely, it saves energy...... your going to need it. ;)
 

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I'm not a horse person, but I am reliably informed that in this area(SC) It takes 2 or more acres to have fairly reliable grazing for one horse. Otherwise you just make good business for a farmer with hay to sell.

When I burn brush I only do it when it is raining. Has always worked for me.

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PRO-TIP If you plan on chipping, make your piles neatly. My wife just threw stuff in a pile randomly. I put it all in a pile neatly, orderly with them all in the same direction. It was no more work to just pay attention when piling it up. My pile came apart 3 times as easily when it was put into the chipper.
 

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Beautiful piece of property you have...
Our property (6 hilly acres) was neglected and overgrown with giant manzanita, standing dead trees and downed dead trees.
We spent every weekend the first summer trying to clear and pile brush for fall burning, but barely made a dent.

We ended up hiring a company with a masticator or forestry mulcher. That thing was amazing. Chewed right through the biggest manazanita, downed trees and everything in its path. Also chewed up and mulched the piles we had made in minutes.
Not sure if there's something available like that in your area. It was expensive at 2k/day for the mulcher a mini excavator and 2 operators, but he cleared about 3 hilly acres in one day.
 

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You could probably have a dozer guy come in and knock it all down and pile it up in less than a day, including removing all the stumps. He should be able level the pad for the shop and parking area within a single day.

Yup, you can kill two birds with one stone by hiring a guy to build your pad and he will pop out any stumps you want gone too.

And you are on acreage now...we burn all the brush & stumps to get rid of them. Chipping/mulching can get expensive, and hauling it off can be very time consuming. You can also pick a back corner of the property and pile it up. We have one of those spots too.
 

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Beautiful piece of property you have...
Our property (6 hilly acres) was neglected and overgrown with giant manzanita, standing dead trees and downed dead trees.
We spent every weekend the first summer trying to clear and pile brush for fall burning, but barely made a dent.

We ended up hiring a company with a masticator or forestry mulcher. That thing was amazing. Chewed right through the biggest manazanita, downed trees and everything in its path. Also chewed up and mulched the piles we had made in minutes.
Not sure if there's something available like that in your area. It was expensive at 2k/day for the mulcher a mini excavator and 2 operators, but he cleared about 3 hilly acres in one day.

A forestry mulcher is a thing of beauty.
 

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I will say that your time is your most valuable asset. If you can afford to hire someone and have it done in a day or so, pay the man and move on. If you can’t I get it but I was stubborn and tried to do a bunch of work myself for a year, and a fella with a dozer came out and cleared everything I had already done, plus all that was left, piled it up on my existing burn pile, started it up, and was gone in a day. Best money I ever spent. Back to spending time with the family and enjoying our property instead of dreading going out there and working all weekend.
 

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I agree, big machines save months of back-breaking work when it comes to trees, brush or dirt moving. I'm all for diy'ing but in this case it's worth the money to rent or hire it done.
 

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You land looks amazing.

Around here, for land clearing, we can get by with a heavy bobcat. Typically cut the tree, then leave 3' of stump and "pop" it out by ramming it. You're obviously farther north and your root systems may be a lot deeper and this won't work elsewhere.

For "big piles" - I'll either bring in a team with a large chipper (usually 3-4 guys) they make quick work of it. Anything they cannot chip gets pushed into a big burn pile and I'll burn it when it's safe. You can rent "big chippers" around here, but it's hard for me to justify the rental cost when I can get the same thing in a local service and they are MUCH faster than I am.

Up north, We cut/stack logs, then use a 40hp Kubota tractor that has a chipper attachment. Frankly that tool scares the **** out of me.

I have had it done "all in one" once. My neighbor rented a TigerCat - and loaned it to me for about an hour. This eats everything - trees, rocks, whatever... It mulches everything. I've never seen one of these north of Oklahoma though.



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What is with all this hire someone to ****. Is this garage journal or icantdoshitformyself.com???
Sometimes it's cheaper and faster to hire work out than do it yourself. I can run a dozer reasonably well, but by the time I rent one, have it hauled in and get the work done over a couple of days, the hired guy can be in and done and gone in less time.
 

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Something like this Polaris can be your best friend, I just got it and I use the hell out of it for tree stuff we have 5 acres of woods. I have a hitch rack for it and the dump bed, I can haul most of a decent size tree to another location. Also a way to get a toy while telling your wife it is a “maintenance vehicle.” :)
 

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I'm not a horse person, but I am reliably informed that in this area(SC) It takes 2 or more acres to have fairly reliable grazing for one horse. Otherwise you just make good business for a farmer with hay to sell.

When I burn brush I only do it when it is raining. Has always worked for me.

KEH
Agree, we will not have enough open pasture to support horses (horses are social, so we will likely get at least 2) and will need to provide horse-quality hay.
 
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Something like this Polaris can be your best friend, I just got it and I use the hell out of it for tree stuff we have 5 acres of woods. I have a hitch rack for it and the dump bed, I can haul most of a decent size tree to another location. Also a way to get a toy while telling your wife it is a “maintenance vehicle.” :)
I have a good friend who works for Polaris that tells me they sell equipment to employees at a steal every once and a while. It's definitely more of a want than a need, but I think it could make operations run much smoother!
 
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I will say that your time is your most valuable asset. If you can afford to hire someone and have it done in a day or so, pay the man and move on. If you can’t I get it but I was stubborn and tried to do a bunch of work myself for a year, and a fella with a dozer came out and cleared everything I had already done, plus all that was left, piled it up on my existing burn pile, started it up, and was gone in a day. Best money I ever spent. Back to spending time with the family and enjoying our property instead of dreading going out there and working all weekend.
We started doing the smaller stuff around the house, and the soil is sandy enough where it's actually pretty quick work so far. The bigger stuff we will probably need to hire out once we finalize plans for buildings, etc.
 
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