Langmuir arcflat vs Primeweld fixture table?

[BrooklynBravest]

Torn between these two tables. They both end up being $2400 shipped without leg kit.

I’m looking to combine 3 blocks into a 3x6 table ultimately.

The Primeweld is nitride coated, which could be good or one more thing subject to wear and tear.

The Primeweld is milled where the legs go on the bottom and uses 2 larger bolts per leg where the Langmuir uses 4. I do feel 4 is more stable.

The Primeweld has the milled 2x2 grid pattern in it.

Both take a month or so to receive Primeweld said back in stock in 45 days.

 

[Jch1217]

I’ve been debating the same two tables also. Have you looked into the kovosu table? I recently came across this 32x48 table system and right now they’re $2600 shipped with all the fixture attachments. Slightly smaller then what you’re looking for, but just another option.

 

[BrooklynBravest]

A few people mentioned those to me. I really need the full 3x6 size and my second problem is I’m in a small space, to maneuver a 500+ lb single slab of cast iron is going to be a challenge.

This is going to be a general use table for welding grinding etc. i don’t see the nitrate coating on the primeweld surviving.

 

[rvieceli]

@BrooklynBravest if you haven't already, you might want to take look at Buildpro tables.
Here's a 78x38 table for around 3400. You can add casters and they move fairly easily.

https://www.trick-tools.com/BuildPro_Welding_Table_78_inch_x_38_inch_TM57838_4158

Ron

 

[LXCam]

@BrooklynBravest if you haven't already, you might want to take look at Buildpro tables.
Here's a 78x38 table for around 3400. You can add casters and they move fairly easily.

https://www.trick-tools.com/BuildPro_Welding_Table_78_inch_x_38_inch_TM57838_4158

Ron

Man oh man do I like that modular configuration method. Even though my current table is 3x7 I’m always having to do some form of support for larger assemblies and this unit fits the bill nicely.

 

[BrooklynBravest]

Buildpro is nice but too big and no reason for added expense. Also, i want the front and side clamping walls.

This is what I’m dealing with, i drew the arcflat from scratch.

Black cube is small press brake

Corner is plasma table

Big green cube is drill press

Small green cube is belt grinder

Red is my toolboxes.

 

[BrooklynBravest]

Spruced up my shop model a bit more. I really like the idea of this layout it’s just a matter of which table now.

Shopsabre who now owns Langmuir, has on their site listing a 3x6 arcflat kit for $2115 with legs. Which probably includes two sets of the combining bolts ($70) and the leg kit that I’ll throw away (technically $100)

If it’s $2115 shipped it still comes in a solid amount cheaper than from Langmuir’s site but it does not say if that is shipped. Have to wait to find out on Tuesday when the world reopens from holiday.

 

[Sumboodie]

How do you load plate on the plasma? Forklift fit there?

 

[Retroman]

I have the Arcflat (24" x 36" single block) and really like it no experience with the other tables. Nice to be able to fab something flat and square.
I think I paid $400 or $450 drove down to pick it up as it was an overweight table and could not be shipped.

 

[BrooklynBravest]

My hands.

I only keep 24x48 sheets up to 1/4”. If it’s larger it’s usually a small half sheet for a special one off item etc.

I wish it was $450 now. Lol

 

[NDJ]

Wow that is 10lbs of chips in a 5lb bag. How big is the floor area ?

 

[sqznby]

I’ve been debating the same two tables also. Have you looked into the kovosu table? I recently came across this 32x48 table system and right now they’re $2600 shipped with all the fixture attachments. Slightly smaller then what you’re looking for, but just another option.

That's not a bad deal at all.

The arcflat tables are a really nice option for the space challenged. Very versatile system and really cool being modular to be able to configure them accordingly.

 

[BrooklynBravest]

Wow that is 10lbs of chips in a 5lb bag. How big is the floor area ?

10’x18 probably. lol

 

[sqznby]

I know you said it would be for general work. Is there anything in particular you'll be making why you'd need it to be 3 x 6?
You may want to move the grinding and cutting by the door, it will help cut down on the dust and you'll be able to clean it easier having access to three sides instead of being tucked in a corner. Plus, loading and unloading on the table would be a lot easier.

 

[BrooklynBravest]

I know you said it would be for general work. Is there anything in particular you'll be making why you'd need it to be 3 x 6?
You may want to move the grinding and cutting by the door, it will help cut down on the dust and you'll be able to clean it easier having access to three sides instead of being tucked in a corner. Plus, loading and unloading on the table would be a lot easier.

The table is by the door.

Part of the table will be used for a tapping arm, a good 2x3 section will get lost to that,

 

[sqznby]

The table is by the door.

Part of the table will be used for a tapping arm, a good 2x3 section will get lost to that,

I was suggesting moving your grinding/cutting by the door for dust prevention and easier access to around the plasma table. But assuming it's a 3 x 4 table that wouldn't be too hard to reach over.

Gotcha, now I see why you want that size table. A decent amount will be occupied by the tapping arm.

 

[jcarapet]

Interestingly this popped up in my algorithm today. Back half of video compared the two. Said the primeweld is a bit better for a little less. Depends on where you are though. I can drive to Houston, pick up a couple arcflats sans shipping, and be back in a day.

 

[Firebrick43]

Why waste space and money on a tapping arm when you have a drill press?

 

[Monza Harry]

Why waste space and money on a tapping arm when you have a drill press?

If you have a bunch of same size, co-planar/parallel plane holes, they are hard [real hard] to beat for time! Almost self aligning, speed is pretty much optimized for its tap range and reversing is near instant. Oh and no table cranking! Firebrick try one if you get the chance, like the commercial used to say "try it you'll like it" Harry

 

[Firebrick43]

O I have tried one a lot. We had them at the last place I worked. But we had 40 acres under roof not 180 square feet.

 

[Monza Harry]

I wouldn't worry about the space as you could un-bolt the arm (from either table he buys (or aquires/adds to future developments)] and stow it, they aren't big when folded [a lot awkward, yes, kind of like moving a sofa bed into an elevator, prepare for the unintentional opening!] My issue is cost, they ain't free! I agree Firebrick that not that useful for small projects with a couple of hole unless that small part has 10 friends. Still a very handy tool if you build things with lots of tapped holes. Harry