Above 1200 Sq/FT Larry_G's shop build

[larry_g]

hey Larry... we might be neighbors, i'm in SE Salem, off of MacLeay

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78689&highlight=gophers

If you see my post in the above thread you will see that I have already extended an invitation, which still stands. I am < 10 miles south of you. I am here all day most days as I am full time care giver to my father who is here with us. PM if you want directions.

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[Terapin]

Very nice build. Looks like you have some great machinary in there. Thanks for your input on my lathe question. Would love to get some more of your two cents if I pick up a lathe.

 

[e-tek]

Larry you got a LOT of cool machinery and tools in there - any updates?

 

[larry_g]

Larry you got a LOT of cool machinery and tools in there - any updates?

Not a lot of shop work yet. Still trying to get fathers estate settled and his house cleaned out. More stuff is getting moved in to the shop and I can't even give it away.

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[mdkingsley]

Great shop Larry, looks like lots of thought and planning went into it. I envy your lathes and mills I want some one day myself. Caring for a loved one is a difficult task and you should be commended for your efforts. We took care of my mom at home until she passed away from ALS ( Lou Gehrig's) My dad stayed with her 24-7 and I ran the dairy with a helper and family while working at the FD. It is tough and you are a good man for doing it.

 

[Badasssapper67]

Awesome shop, sweeeeeet machines! Do you fab parts or do anything in particular? I'd like to build a shop with a machine shop like yours and was wondering if you have any advice.

 

[larry_g]

Awesome shop, sweeeeeet machines! Do you fab parts or do anything in particular? I'd like to build a shop with a machine shop like yours and was wondering if you have any advice.

Mostly hobby and farm repair stuff. As far as giving advice I would suggest that you separate out an area for you mill, lathe, and any other equipment that has precision ways on them. Dirt and grit from abrasives will soon render a machine to junk. Get yourself on a machining forum or two and learn there. GJ has some very good machining resources but a machining forum will be much more focused on the trade.

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[larry_g]

A small update, attached are photos of insulation and drywall going on the ceiling of the machine shop area. I have spent a lot of time rehabbing fathers old house, adding a porch cover to our house, and getting a chicken shed built for the wife. I can see a bit of light at the end of the tunnel that hopefully will be my time to focus on something that I want for myself. The settling of fathers estate took a bunch of my time as I was the the trustee. We signed the papers the other day for disbursement to the heirs so that is a big weight lifted. Still some tax stuff to do and hopefully by this time next year I will be free of that burden. If and when the shop starts to change for the better I will post a few more pictures.

lg
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[Blown32]

Great thread with a ton of ideas.

Thanks!

 

[R.Anderson]

I like your shop layout, had to check out your Sheldon lathe or should I say Sheldons.
Any updates coming soon?

 

[mod9]

I live is Puyallup Wa now but , I was raised in cottage grove. what part of town do you plan on moving to ?

 

[larry_g]

I live is Puyallup Wa now but , I was raised in cottage grove. what part of town do you plan on moving to ?

I'm not sure where this question comes from?? I'm not moving but I have relatives in Puyallup and in Cottage Grove.

lg
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[sunsation288]

Larry you have nice tool , and nice shop ,
can't wait to have a mill and lathe

 

[Kels]

Hey, It looks like you did something very similar to what I am trying to do! I saw that you have the moisture blanket up between your frame work and metal, then It looks like you insulated some of the areas more to heat them.

How did you do this on the walls and Roof? and did you add in another vapor barrier? THANKS!

 

[Jello-D]

sweet

 

[gearhead1]

Awesome shop. I am planning mine and this is great, thanks for posting!

 

[Nelson58]

Beautiful shop Larry- makes us all jealous.

 

[larry_g]

Thanks for the kudos. Sad part is that the shop has been looking perty much the same for the last couple years but it has had a lot of work pass through it lately.

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[expressline99]

Very nice looking shop. I ended up in here looking at how you loaded/unloaded the mill. Do those trailers lower to the ground? Then raise up to haul around? Looks like the tractor was of great help unloading. My driveway has a very slight grade to it. But I'm wondering if I can build a 4x4 a-frame to unload then perhaps...use a come-along to drag into the garage... which has a standard height door. So I'll have to lower the ram on it.

Anyhow, main point being great looking shop. I hope you get time to work on it soon and that your life has settled down a bit.
Paul

 

[Cuzinfrank]

Larry

In the roof above the craft room I saw the moisture barrier/ Insulation. Any problem with condensation?

 

[larry_g]

http://www.metalbuildinginsulation.com/newconstruction.html

The above site sells what I used. Here it is called an insulating vapor barrier. This shop and the previous shop both have this and neither have any problems condensation. I recommend this stuff. The whole building is wrapped in this material.

lg
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[larry_g]

Well I have a new tool to report. I've been on the lookout for a bigger drill press for awhile. A few weeks ago the local CL had an estate sale listed and I spied this DP in the background so I emailed and asked if it was for sale and what the price was. To make a long story short I went and seen the DP as it was just a few miles away, made an offer and the guy doing the clean out had to talk to the widow and get back to me. After a couple of weeks of negotiating it was mine. It is a Buffalo 20 1/2, 2 hp motor, power feed on the quill and everything was working when I first seen it. The one downside is that the table lift mechanism is missing.

Coming out of the truck. The base is already unloaded. I decided to split the machine to ease the removal from the sellers place and to make hauling a safer.

Here we are mating the top back to the bottom. The canister weight hanging down is the quill return weight. This is in lieu of a spring return.

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Four bolts afix the base to the upper. This machine has 7" of quill travel and a MT4 taper in the spindle. Sitting on top of my hat is the backgear housing and this machine will turn slow when it is engaged.

Here it is in its place until further notice. This side shows most of the power feed. In the picture above you can see the drive pulley and the kickout for the down limit.

 

[Gear Wolf]

You've got some nice machines Larry. Keep up the good work!

 

[larry_g]

Had some time to ponder the missing table lift and talked with a few of the old guys and they said most of them broke. I can see why due to the design of a just a collar fitting part way around the mount and the force applied to the lift screw. I spent some time trying to engineer in an air cylinder and finally came to the solution pictured. The bearing blocks and shaft came from the scrap box, well it all did, and were fitted to the angle iron used for the belt tensioner. The handle was from an old pipe vise under the bench. I was extremely lucky that the handle was for an .875" shaft which I was using. I did have to mill two flats on the shaft as the handle was a double D recess. The gap in the table clamp was wide enough to fit a plate in with two holes for the clamp bolts to pass through. I'm still working on a brake to hold the winder in position to prevent it from unwinding and tangling the cable.

lg
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[53PontiacSD]

Nice shop Larry

 

[tomralph]

I see a small rise behind the shed in the first pictures, like you cut into the hill. How did you address water coming in? I am in a similar spot where I have a small rise/slope and need to deal with it

 

[larry_g]

I see a small rise behind the shed in the first pictures, like you cut into the hill. How did you address water coming in? I am in a similar spot where I have a small rise/slope and need to deal with it

Two things. On the flat above the cutout I have the dirt cut into a shallow swale so that water coming down the hill gets diverted. Also along the field there is a road that somewhat diverts surface water also. Around the slab I have a perfpipe that will catch the water and direct it around the building to lower ground. The perfpipe is buried in small river rock that allows the water freely through.

Both sides of the shop the land drops off so I only have to divert the water to the side. I don't have any neighbors to worry about either so that is an advantage.

lg
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[Miss the Pontiacs]

Hi Larry
Your shop is unbelievable!! The space just makes me drool. Not to mention the equipment you have to work with. Along with your experience to pull it all together.
Looks like a hat trick to me.
Sorry to hear about your DAD.
Good Luck and I will be checking back to see what you are up to next.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Had some time to ponder the missing table lift and talked with a few of the old guys and they said most of them broke. I can see why due to the design of a just a collar fitting part way around the mount and the force applied to the lift screw. I spent some time trying to engineer in an air cylinder and finally came to the solution pictured. The bearing blocks and shaft came from the scrap box, well it all did, and were fitted to the angle iron used for the belt tensioner. The handle was from an old pipe vise under the bench. I was extremely lucky that the handle was for an .875" shaft which I was using. I did have to mill two flats on the shaft as the handle was a double D recess. The gap in the table clamp was wide enough to fit a plate in with two holes for the clamp bolts to pass through. I'm still working on a brake to hold the winder in position to prevent it from unwinding and tangling the cable.

lg
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Larry nice DP. Why not drill a hole down between the two Allan screws and into the turn handle for your cable. Just a small hole for a lock pin with a pull ring. Gravity and back pressure from the weight on the table would hold it in place and keep your cable from unwinding.

 

[bolensboneyard]

Larry I need your help. I built a worm and most of a bracket to support my power feed build. Problem is the worm in order to match the worm gear on the top of the half that I have is LH thread. In order for the drill to drill it must go counter clockwise on the main shaft which it does. If I belt direct from the main shaft to the pwr. feed shaft this gives me power return but not power feed???? The worm is set up on the proper side of the worm gear. Is there any way to reverse the feed? If there is I can't see it. Only thing I can think of is that someone switched the worm gear off of another machine?? Bobby

 

[bolensboneyard]

I figured it out. Amazing what you know at 37 you forget you know at 67. I just crossed the belt. Must be working too hard. Didn't do me any good as I also centered the worm wit the worm gear and now she rides over. Guess I'll just wait until I find one (sure) or live without it. It's a great old DP anyway. Thanks Larry sorry to ramble on your site. Keep up the good work.

 

[larry_g]

Well there has been some progress in the shop this year. When I started machining Part of what I wanted to do was build some model engines. I bought a casting kit over 15 years ago and made a start then. Soon figured out I had neither the skills or the tools to build it. Time was also a factor. Now that I am retired and somewhat caught up with the building of this place I figure that I can have some play time to concentrate on this. It has been a fun and mind bending process but I'm happy with where the project is today. Not sure if it will ever get painted or not. I runs real good and will tick over quite slowly.

Posed on the mill;
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Front and back pictures;

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I do not photograph a lot in the build but if you want to see what one other guy did he documented it here and at the end of the vid it is shown running;

 

[turbowoodworker]

That is super cool.

 

[tfb]

You are a talent rarely seen these days! I wish I had your energy... and your stuff! lol

 

[JoeyB]

I really enjoyed your pictures and the story that went with your build. I'm going to be caring for my father when that time comes as well and my wife's grandparents, so lots of respect for you there sir.

You're machinery is gorgeous! I look forward to breaking ground on my shop so I can start collecting some quality machines myself.

 

[GeddyT]

After seeing that you have a Dufour mill, I had to come check your build out. Sweet shop! Really like the loft and that you've separated your machines from the rest of the shop. I have a lot of questions about that mill, but I'll send you a private message so as to not gum up your thread.

 

[cajungene]

What did you use for you main beams 2x10’s? Looks like 6x6 posts. What about joists and what was the spacing.

 

[larry_g]

What did you use for you main beams 2x10’s? Looks like 6x6 posts. What about joists and what was the spacing.

I'm not sure what your talking about? Is this in reference to the loft?

lg
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