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jimy

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So I bought one of those battery operated pumps that fit into a gas can The threads are supposed to fit “most” 5 gallon cans. It did not fit my “no-spill” brand can. I’m not shocked - it is somewhat of a unique design.

So I take my new pump and shop for a gas can that will match the threads on the pump. I found out that all new cans (at least on my state) have various **** inside them attached to the hole. Sometimes a mesh sock, others have various plastic bits. There is NO WAY for me to put the pump into a new can to see if the threads match.

I am stuck. If I knew a can would fit I’m sure I could cut the **** out but I’m not going to cut up multiple cans to find a fit.

Any thoughts?

Jim
 
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Too late for a fresh / opened powered pump owner, but I use a swaged copper 'SuperSiphon' and some 1/2" ID clear PVC hose. Or a small boat hand-bulb setup and bypass all that 'no spill' garbage that has been foisted upon us.

There's dozens of copycat brands of these things now. It's just a swaged piece of copper with a glass marble and a spring trapped in it, which serves like a reverse snorkel. You just drop that end in a fuel jug and jiggle it up and down a few times and fuel rises until a normal siphon flow is established. the one's I have will drain a 20L jug in <4mins. And with just a little practice I don't spill anything. And I don't have to stand around holding a 40# weight, trying to work these asinine spring-loaded 'no spill' devices that are anything but.

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yatg said:
Pic of the pump and link to it would help.

Here's a couple of links for fuel cap threads, coarse and fine. They each say what they fit. My cans are coarse (b&s, midwest), but it says coarse also fits NoSpill with an adapter?



  • Fits NO-SPILL Jugs And All 63mm(2.5”) “F” Style Jugs
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Thanks I will look into the no-spill adapter. I do like their can.

So what the heck is the junk inside new gas cans for?
 
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jimy said:
Thanks I will look into the no-spill adapter. I do like their can.

So what the heck is the junk inside new gas cans for?
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Flame arrestors. Keep Imbecilic people from killing themselves when they pour gasoline on a lit fire. Not that pouring gas on a non epa can was advisable, the first gen of the EPA spouts would draw the flames up the vent tube of the spout and allow the flame right into the can with oxygen to boot!

I think the EPA goons that make the rules should all have to pour gas on a fire several times and 20 gallons into a tractor without spilling it to show their rules and designs are superior and safer, not the other way around. Maybe some common sense would prevail. I just gave up and decided to get 4 "water" nato jerry cans. And I will always just haul "water" around in them. ;)
 
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Nobody should approve or mandate a "Product Improvement" unless they have actually used the item in question and are willing to attest to it's value.
 
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I have two 5gal gas cans. An old unsafe one that I love and a new safe one I hate. Last week I was putting gas into the lawn tractor from the safe one. It trickled so slowly that I had to stop and set it down a minute to relieve my arms. Then I got an idea. I had used a plastic funnel for something the week before. So I grabbed the funnel, took all that safe nozzle **** off the can, and poured that way. The last 3 gal took maybe 40 seconds. That funnel is now permanently stored w/ the two gas cans.
 
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That white thing down the neck of the new gas can is called a flame arrestor. The easiest way to deal with it is just to take a wooden dowel and put it in the hole and knock the flame arrestor down into the bottom of the gas can. Alternatively, you can take some picks and a small screwdriver and try to pry it out of there. Once you get it up a little bit, you can take a set of dykes and cut it a little bit and it will come out. The dowel knocking it down into the can is much easier and it's not going to hurt anything. In fact, if you're using two stroke gas, it will assist in keeping it mixed when you shake it.
 
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I’ve got the No Spill brand can. Trying to fill my pontoon boat with it, or any of my cans was a joke. I think I killed a lot of lake life that day. Instantly ordered the shake siphon of Amazon and ripped out the flame arrestor. Set the can up on the storage cover and drop in the siphon hose and fill the tank.
I need to find some simple caps and remove the spouts.
 
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I actually really like the no-spill brand cans. If our boat gas cap was on the dock side I would have used that without a pump. With the transfer pump I can set the can on the boat just above the filler and push the button. That eliminates the can being dropped in the water.

Jim
 
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Jiggle siphons are good, but they are slow.

Put your "supply" can up on a short table/box. It just has to be higher than the receiving can. Get a piece of clear vinyl tubing between 1/2"-3/4" about 6' long. Cut a 1'-2' piece off. Place the long piece in supply can, down to the bottom. Place the short piece also in the can. Use a rag to seal the gap in the opening. BLOW in the short hose.

Maybe not as fast as one of those battery operated pumps, but a hell of a lot more reliable !
 
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Old thread, sorry.

I have one of those jiggle tubes and they work fine, however the PVC tubing goes hard fairly quickly. I've replaced the tubing a couple times... Digging into it looks like they use "plasticizers" in the tubing that leach out with UV exposure, and probably gasoline doesn't help.

I'm thinking about replacing mine this time with a section of 1/2 rubber fuel line from amazon... They sell 10' sections for about $25. I probably would use a 6' long hose.
 
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go to a boat store and get a fuel tank hose
they have a bulb in them that lets you start a siphon
 
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petee_c said:
Old thread, sorry.

I have one of those jiggle tubes and they work fine, however the PVC tubing goes hard fairly quickly. I've replaced the tubing a couple times... Digging into it looks like they use "plasticizers" in the tubing that leach out with UV exposure, and probably gasoline doesn't help.

I'm thinking about replacing mine this time with a section of 1/2 rubber fuel line from amazon... They sell 10' sections for about $25. I probably would use a 6' long hose.
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I use one of the jigglers on my snowmachine. Works great, except that the PVC tubing is really stiff (like rock hard) at temperatures below freezing. I went to a local industrial supply and bought 6 feet of double-layer urethane hose for 8 bucks - problem solved. The hose I bought is not clear, but that's usualy not a problem. They had clear urethane hose that works in cold weather, but it was $8 a foot and I thought that was a little much so I passed.

BTW the flame arrestors in new cans are easy to remove with an awl and a pair of pliers.
 
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