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MNChevySS

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Well my house was struck by lightning last week and along with about half of my electronics, my 27" garage TV bit the dust. I can't buy a tube anymore and I have "replacement" value on my insurance so I'm planning on getting a middle of the line 26"-30" LCD.

Does anyone know if a LCD will withstand a minnesota winter?

My garage is well insulated and I have a Bigg Maxx heater, but I don't run in all winter long, (planned on it until I got the first gas bill) so it could very easily get below zero if the doors are left open for a bit. Typically it stays about 40 degrees in the winter. It would be hanging close to the ceiling so maybe that would help?

If anyone has done this with success, please let me know, thanks much!
 
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From the manufacturers:

- The storage temperature for these units is -20 to 60 degrees Celsius. Regards David Herbert LG Canada

- Please be advised that the recommended storage temperature should be between -20 Celsius and +60 Celsius. However,thetelevision cannot be plugged in until the television's internal temperature is 0-40 degrees Celsius. Please ensure that you unplug the television prior to storing it, and that the television is well warmed-up before plugging it in after the storage period. Regards, Panasonic Canada Inc. - Customer Care Centre - bg

- Thank you for submitting your inquiry to Samsung.For all 3 different technologies, LCD, DLP or PLASMA, the manufacturer recommends a storage temperature (TV off mode) between -4°F to 113°F (-20°C to 45°C). Same storage temperatures for all. We also recommend that regardless of what type you buy, that you unplug the TV from the wall socket when not in use for a very long period and to let TV warm up by just plugging it for 12 hours before operating the next time. - Samsung Limitless Support

- I'm glad to provide you the information regarding the operating temperature and storage temperature of the Sony TV. The television can be placed in storage with environmental temperatures between -4 to 140 degrees Fahrenheit (F) and 20-90% Relative Humidity (RH). The recommended temperature for proper operation is between 41°F to 96°F. Proper operation outside of this temperature range cannot be guaranteed. Thank you for your time. Sony of Canada, Ltd. C6EL Jason


Just make sure it's up to operating temperature range before turning it on.
 
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Chris Adams

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Well my house was struck by lightning last week and along with about half of my electronics, my 27" garage TV bit the dust. I can't buy a tube anymore and I have "replacement" value on my insurance so I'm planning on getting a middle of the line 26"-30" LCD.

Does anyone know if a LCD will withstand a minnesota winter?

My garage is well insulated and I have a Bigg Maxx heater, but I don't run in all winter long, (planned on it until I got the first gas bill) so it could very easily get below zero if the doors are left open for a bit. Typically it stays about 40 degrees in the winter. It would be hanging close to the ceiling so maybe that would help?

If anyone has done this with success, please let me know, thanks much!

They don't like it cold.
Cheat.
Get your payment for the cost of the flat screen, then by a CRT TV for about 5% of the cost used.
There are TONS of them for sale for about nothing right now.
 

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They don't like it cold.
Cheat.
Get your payment for the cost of the flat screen, then by a CRT TV for about 5% of the cost used.
There are TONS of them for sale for about nothing right now.

Tell me about it, our local flea market has a TV guy with minty nice 32" tube tv's for like $35 and about $20 for 20" sizes. Keep the diff and byt something else cool
 

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Tell me about it, our local flea market has a TV guy with minty nice 32" tube tv's for like $35 and about $20 for 20" sizes. Keep the diff and byt something else cool

His insurance will likely require receipt to confirm purchase of the replacement TV and adjust the payout accordingly
 

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Make sure you have a surge protector for the new TV and other expensive electronics.
 

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cold weather doesnt effect comouters and electronics like that................but heat does
 

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just a thought, you have seen all these vans and cars with dvd players and lcd screens.
people use them all the time and I'm shure its colder in a van parked outside than in your garage.
why not heat your garage.
I keep mine at 45 to 50 and dosn't cost that much more than just heating it when I'm out there.
 

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Check on an extended service plan for the tv. I just bought a flatscreen, and got the service plan. If anything happens to the tv for the next five years (outside of obvious abuse), its replaced free, no questions asked. Even lightning damage. I probably paid too much for the plan, but the tv was a display model, and was marked way down.

Jamie
 

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I'm glad I read this - I need to get a surge for my new TV set up!!

I keep my shop (simialr heater) on a programmable thermostat. Set it for 5C (42F) for all the time and then it only takes a few minutes to bring it up to working temps.
 
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His insurance will likely require receipt to confirm purchase of the replacement TV and adjust the payout accordingly

If they do he needs to change insurance companies - once they write you a check for REPLACEMENT value, they'd better be completely out of the picture..........whether it be LCD or TUBE :)
 

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Well it surely doesn't get as cold her in Oklahoma as it does in Minnesota, but in the winter temps are usually below freezing and occasionally drop to near zero. We do however have some wildly fluctuating temps where it will be 10 degrees one day and 45 the next. I have an inexpensive 42" 1080P LCD by Dynex (Best Buy house brand) in my garage and it seems to work fine. I did buy the 3-year extended warranty for $99 just in case though!
 

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Don't limit surge protection to the TV - I have it on the washer, stove, microwave - all that stuff has sensitive circuitry in it now. Microwave is kind of a whatever, those are pretty cheap to replace LOL.
 
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Thanks for the advice, I think I'm going to buy a middle of the road TV from best buy with a service plan and not worry about it.

Also, I did have surge protectors in my main tv area, still blew a xbox 360, a stereo receiver, a dvd player, but ironically enough, it did not blow my 50" samsung LCD plugged into the same surge protector. In my office it blew my computer, monitors and a lamp, also all plugged into a surge protector. All in all it was random and did not make a difference if things were plugged into a surge protector or not.

http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=PRO8T2

is the exact model of surge protectors I have and the damn things did not even trip, or blow a fuse or anything. When I get done taking care of the necesseties like my garage stereo and garage TV this weekend I'm gonna give old APC a call and ask em what they think of there APC Professional SurgeArrest, 8 outlet, 2 pairs phone line protection surge protector NOW!!!

I always heard they were worth the money, now I'm not so sure!!!
 

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My expensive TV is on a UPS, gives it more protection than any surge protector.

When you get 3k in a TV you don't take many chances...
 

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You shouldn't have any problems with LCD's if you follow the manufacturer's temperature recommendations. I have seen the LCD displays of Fluke multimeters destroyed by extremely cold temperatures, so if you exceed the limits of the LCD, it will happen.
 

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Build a small cabinet for it with a plexiglas front put a small lamp or light bulb in the cabinet for the winter, turn it on when you're not heating the shop and it should keep your tv warm in the cabinet...turn the light off when you're using the tv...is that simple enough?...
 

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Also, I did have surge protectors in my main tv area, still blew a xbox 360, a stereo receiver, a dvd player, but ironically enough, it did not blow my 50" samsung LCD plugged into the same surge protector. In my office it blew my computer, monitors and a lamp, also all plugged into a surge protector. All in all it was random and did not make a difference if things were plugged into a surge protector or not.

Damage was not random. What does a surge seek? Earth ground. Everything had an incoming surge path. But only some items connected that surge destructively to earth. Plug-in surge protectors even give surges more paths to find earth, destructively, via appliances. Those plug-in protectors did exactly what the manufacturer claims in its numeric specifications.

Lightning is an electrical current from cloud, into AC mains down the street, through your appliances, into earth, then travel maybe miles to distant electrical charges. You do not stop what three miles of sky could not (even though that is what a plug-in protector is supposed to do).

Surge protection is always about the energy. Either you earth a direct lightning strike before it can enter the building. Or that surge current is inside the building hunting for earth destructively via appliances.

All appliances contain surge protection. Most so called surges are completely irrelevant even to dimmer switches, bathroom GFCIs, and clock radios. Computers are required to have even better internal protection. But the rare and destructive surge can overwhelm appliance protection. Either you earth that rare (maybe once even seven years) surge. Or it hunts for earth via plug-in protectors and appliances.

Only more responsible manufacturer make effective 'whole house' protectors such as Siemens, Keison, Square D, General Electric, Intermatic, Polyphaser, Leviton, etc. The Cutler-Hammer protector sells in Lowes for less than $50. But again, no protector stops or absorbs that surge energy. Protection is about energy absorbed harmlessly in earth. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground. Which means you upgrade earthing to meet and exceed post 1990 National Electrical Code. A breaker box ground wire going up over the foundation and down to earth ground will compromise the 'whole house' protection. Too many sharp wire bends, too long, bundled with other non-grounding wires. That breaker box ground must go through the foundation and down to single point earth ground. Every foot shorter that connection to earth means even better protection.

A plug-in protector has no earth ground. It will not discuss earthing. And its specs do not even claim to provide surge protection. All three explain so much damage on electronics connected to scam plug-in protectors.

A protector is only as effective as its earth ground - where the energy from a direct lightning strike gets harmlessly dissipated.
 

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... so it could very easily get below zero if the doors are left open for a bit. Typically it stays about 40 degrees in the winter.
Spec will list two numbers. Operating temperature and storage temperature.

Operating temperature is necessary so that it works right. Many mistakenly believe that an out of spec temperature means damage. No, that temperature means less than optimum operation - with no damage.

Storage temperature means a temperature extreme much worse might cause damage. So you know its operating temperature without damage (but maybe does not work right) is somewhere in between.

Specs should also list time of transition from worst case storage temperature to operational temperature. Normally this is less than half hour. But that would be speculation. More honest specs will provide a transition time.
 

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If they do he needs to change insurance companies - once they write you a check for REPLACEMENT value, they'd better be completely out of the picture..........whether it be LCD or TUBE :)

to my knowledge most insurance companies that cover for replacememnt value actually want you to replace the item.
easy. go to costco and buy one. photocopy the recipt and send it to insurance. take the TV back to costco and tell them you changed your mind.
the will not have beed opened so there will be no problem with returning it

bob
 

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cold weather doesnt effect comouters and electronics like that................but heat does

Don't know where you heard that. Heat kills if they are turned on, but cold kills, period.
Warnings on hard drives, etc. not to run below usually about 45 degrees F.
Ever bring a drive in out of the cold and have it fail to boot? Common problem.
I store electronics, drives, etc. at up to 150 F, never had a problem.
Store them in the damp, or cold, they die.

Moisture from condensation ruins them. Get them down around 0 and the boards seem to die. The solder cracks away. Get them much below zero and it all dies. Found out the hard way when I bought an inventory that had been let freeze (below -20 F) most went into the recycle bin.


LCD's don't like heat or cold. When they get too hot the picture goes wonky. When they get too cold, they die.

Got about two hundred crates of computer stuff in storage right now. Not worried about heat, but deathly afraid it will get too cold if I can't get them into the new annex before winter.


Computers like it cool and dry, say 60 degrees 0 humidity, they last forever.
 

Chris Adams

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just a thought, you have seen all these vans and cars with dvd players and lcd screens.
people use them all the time and I'm shure its colder in a van parked outside than in your garage.
why not heat your garage.
I keep mine at 45 to 50 and dosn't cost that much more than just heating it when I'm out there.

Bigger the screen, quicker the death from heat or cold. And guess what? LCD's in cars fail pretty darn fast lots of places. Want some dead ones? Got a bunch waiting for me to pay to dispose of them.
 
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