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Lelandwelds

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Yikes!
Those work with Caseta Wireless, too.
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Yes, the Luton Caseta wireless was reasonably priced and easy to install. The 10 year estimated battery life is pretty all right too. My electrician left off two switch locations and I didn't notice . He has ignored all requests follow plans.
 
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If you go with the type up above, you loose a lot of flexibility...and they cost more.
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I think you're overlooking the point of the ease of installation of these wafer led lights which in my opinion far outweighs any benefit of being able to change the bulb

Nothing like cutting a 6" hole in your ceiling in-between two trusses were your pretty sure there are no obstructions (stud finder checks clear, etc) only to find a black iron, natural gas line running with about 4" of clearance underneath. (The house had an option for a fireplace in this room and they apparently run the gas line no matter what)

If I was using a can, I would have been screwed. Just being able to install these things under a ceiling joist/truss makes it worth while
 

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Git....I get what you are saying......but....I installed my cans before I installed drywall....

Now, if the OP is adding lights after drywall.....then, yea, I'd be inclined to go your approach
 

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I think you're overlooking the point of the ease of installation of these wafer led lights which in my opinion far outweighs any benefit of being able to change the bulb

Nothing like cutting a 6" hole in your ceiling in-between two trusses were your pretty sure there are no obstructions (stud finder checks clear, etc) only to find a black iron, natural gas line running with about 4" of clearance underneath. (The house had an option for a fireplace in this room and they apparently run the gas line no matter what)

If I was using a can, I would have been screwed. Just being able to install these things under a ceiling joist/truss makes it worth while


They are great for utility stuff -- closets/ built in cabinets -- typical unfinished basements. I used one in a pass through in front of a closet because of the structure above .. they are small. It's utility light IMO .. not very nice to look at.
 

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just used these in a small hallway and in frot of a door -- only 2" Juno 2C-927N1-HZW
 

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It's in the warranty -- they are very reputable company. German .. others are doing the same ... Aculux has started as well. I'm not sure what regulation will not allow a replacement module. They use the same modules for many different fixtures ... it's not like they have to stock hundreds ... And yes MR16's do age .. but you can replace them inexpensively and start over.

I use a lot of Bega lighting ....

We have 100 years of perfecting the incandescent bulb -- they give great light in many applications .. I just do see great savings in trying to switch out 7 or 8 bulbs in a given application .
I'm fully aware who Bega is. I dont see it written anywhere in their warranty info that says that they will provide matching replacement parts for 20 years. I hope you dont think that they're going to build products today, and then keep them around for 20 years just in case they need them.
Legislation banned the incandescent bulb. So, if you needed to replace a 100w GE soft white with a "matched" product today, GE couldn't provide it. (Although you might find some NOS somewhere, that's only temporary). If you wanted to replace a mercury ballast today, Advance couldn't provide it. If you wanted to replace an older T8 lamp today, you couldn't get a "matched" replacement, same for induction lights....and on and on and on....

They are great for utility stuff -- closets/ built in cabinets -- typical unfinished basements. I used one in a pass through in front of a closet because of the structure above .. they are small. It's utility light IMO .. not very nice to look at.
Maybe you haven't seen the new ones, then. I linked them previously.
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If you think they're ugly, then that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but their performance is far superior to a 6" nail up can and trim. You can get as many lumens out of a 3" hole as you'd get from a BR30 in a 6" can. 90CRI, IC rated, wet location and lifetime warranty.
 

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just used these in a small hallway and in frot of a door -- only 2" Juno 2C-927N1-HZW

Sorry, $150 for a light is more than I wanted to pay, especially when I needed to install 8 of them!

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Sorry, $150 for a light is more than I wanted to pay, especially when I needed to install 8 of them!

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No ****.....

My 6" cans.....$7/ea.

LED Trims......$4.5/each

Of course it's a lot easier to install before the drywall
 

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I'm fully aware who Bega is. I dont see it written anywhere in their warranty info that says that they will provide matching replacement parts for 20 years. I hope you dont think that they're going to build products today, and then keep them around for 20 years just in case they need them.
Legislation banned the incandescent bulb. So, if you needed to replace a 100w GE soft white with a "matched" product today, GE couldn't provide it. (Although you might find some NOS somewhere, that's only temporary). If you wanted to replace a mercury ballast today, Advance couldn't provide it. If you wanted to replace an older T8 lamp today, you couldn't get a "matched" replacement, same for induction lights....and on and on and on....


Maybe you haven't seen the new ones, then. I linked them previously.
liteline-luna-led-round-recessed-adjustable-downli.jpg

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If you think they're ugly, then that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but their performance is far superior to a 6" nail up can and trim. You can get as many lumens out of a 3" hole as you'd get from a BR30 in a 6" can. 90CRI, IC rated, wet location and lifetime warranty.

You are mixing up my posts .. the OP was speaking of recessed cans. If you don't want to see the light source (the whole reason for the cans) using what is basically surface light is not going to achieve what The OP is shooting for. Sorry I do find them ugly ... Liteline makes a full line of performance housing w/trims .. they are fine IMO. I don't like seeing a bunch of sunspots on a ceiling ... and my link to the Juno remodel was only to provide what is a nice powerful small recessed solution -- not as a substitute replacement for inexpensive traditional cans with bulbs ... although traditional cans can still work as well as they ever did with an easily replaced and upgraded bulb.

I get the reason for LED bulbs .. the world is going that way. Just because they can produce inexpensive surface light does make them nice lights to live with.

BEGA will provide the module .. I can't say it any other way.
 

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No ****.....

My 6" cans.....$7/ea.

LED Trims......$4.5/each

Of course it's a lot easier to install before the drywall

Was not equating them as replacements for inexpensive cans. My point: People seem to equate new with good ... the new thin LEDs are cool if you grew up around bulbs ... but they are not always the best IMO for lighting a space. They may be fine in a utility setting -- but I would rather have old school cans that hide the bulb in a man cave - garage/basement.
 
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I can happily live with more choices than I will ever need. Beats the old "any color you want as long as it is black" way the world used to be.
 

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Think a bit harsh ..... IMO there is no poorer light then the surface type LED fixtures from the big box stores .... including the retrofits. It's like doing a series of old style surface mount FL ..

You can still purchased high quality traditional recessed lights and install LED bulbs -- that way you get a hidden light source with a quality reflector.

The driver/module recessed w/ connection box are very nice .. but unless you purchase from a company that will guarantee a matching replacement -- your done if one fails in 5 years.

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I would never install those puck light things that pretend to look like a can light in new construction. if you want recessed cans, well the pucks are not recessed at all.

If you install a can there are many options for trims and bulbs or an led integrated trim.
 

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This^

I would never install those puck light things that pretend to look like a can light in new construction. if you want recessed cans, well the pucks are not recessed at all.

If you install a can there are many options for trims and bulbs or an led integrated trim.


So what has changed ....?

In all fairness the OP was doing a garage/ man cave ... so you want light.

The bad surface light have become more prevalent. I went to a house my building is doing. It's 5m at least (including 2m for the lots) .... the lighting is dreadful. I said to my builder ..why? That's what they wanted .. we tried to tell them.

Good lighting and good HVAC -- people never pay for somethings that really make a house nice

There is nice stuff available ... think my lighting architect/designer charged me around 2.5k for her services.
 

StephPop24

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I'm looking to install LED can lights in my garage/man cave. It's 24x24 with 10' ceiling. My brother is a union sparky, so he'll be doing the installation. Any recommendations for size, brand, quantity would be much appreciated!
Check NDR Electric, maybe you might find something suitable for you
 
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