Leg vise, 1HP buffer and scroll saw GARBAGE HIT!!

[TwoInch]

my brother stops and grabs scrap metal he sees on the side of the road usually. couple days ago, he found a 1HP craftsman polisher/wire wheel and a craftsman scroll saw, the guy said neither worked and he could take them for scrap if he wanted, he snatched em up with the quickness. get them home, both work perfect. i feel kinda bad, but if you throw things away without checking them on multiple outlets, as im guessing the guy must have had a bad wall outlet or something, that is your own damn fault. am i wrong?

day before, he finds a leg vise(no actual leg though) sitting there with someones garbage also. i cant find much info on this style leg vise, or what ever you call it. here are the pics. anyone know anything about em? no visible name or company on the vise, which apparently is common. vise screw is smooth, jaws in decent shape.

 

[TwoInch]

the vise could be for sale, if anyone is interested...

 

[TwoInch]

anyone know anything about these vises? i been searching, cant find much helpful info.

 

[jzt]

Nice score!

 

[warmpancakes]

looks just like a columbian vise I had

 

[bigcaddy]

blacksmith leg vises are big, heavy and a pain to move around. Ask me how i know. That about sums up all you need to know about those damn things.

My dad bought a pallet of 10 of them at auction many years ago and i have been moving them around ever since.

Most of the ones i have seem were made by Columbian but there were other makers like Arthur Oleary, Peter Wright and A H Holmes.

Check carefully for some markings since they really determine the value on these things.

 

[woody 73]

I t looks like the vise is missing the leg part although not sure as I don't see many of them for sale. Bigcaddy how come your father never sold the lot of vises?

 

[bigcaddy]

I t looks like the vise is missing the leg part although not sure as I don't see many of them for sale. Bigcaddy how come your father never sold the lot of vises?

He did sell 2 to pay for the purchase but the rest he kept for his blacksmith shop. Its taken him many years to finally break ground on it but now he's almost done. Just this past month he took his power hammer home and i think he might be mounting one of the vises soon.

 

[RivennHewn]

Actually, the vise is not a post leg vise. It never was. The vise is intended to go on the tongue of a horse drawn wagon.

 

[RivennHewn]

Snagged a pic offline:

How much you want for it?

 

[nine4gmc]

oh snap, cant very many things beat free things...

 

[Outlawmws]

Thats a cool leg-style vise, and for smithing work invaluable. too bad you are so far away, I'd be interested!

 

[ilovevocs]

I love a good garbage pic. I could be making a million a year and would still dig through scrap piles.

 

[2oolhound]

You **** by the way.

 

[LumpyMusic]

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[2oolhound]

I find it odd that the buffer is 1HP yet it's called a 6". Usually 1HP means 10" wheels. From what I can see the amps are only 3.8? and the speed is 3450 rpm? Not that it changes the status of the deal, just sayin it's odd, I would have expected 1/3 or 1/2 HP.

 

[TwoInch]

I find it odd that the buffer is 1HP yet it's called a 6". Usually 1HP means 10" wheels. From what I can see the amps are only 3.8? and the speed is 3450 rpm? Not that it changes the status of the deal, just sayin it's odd, I would have expected 1/3 or 1/2 HP.

the buffer say "6" Buffer, 120/240volts, 5.0/2.5 amp, 1HP (max developed) 3450rpm 60hz"

i dont know a thing about it/them. i thought it was strange it was rated at 1hp also, most i remember were like you said 1/3 or 1/2...

 

[TwoInch]

as for the vise, there was no leg like mentioned. it looks intact. i called it a leg vise because i dont know another way to describe it, maybe "leg style vise" i guess.

 

[Outlawmws]

I find it odd that the buffer is 1HP yet it's called a 6". Usually 1HP means 10" wheels. From what I can see the amps are only 3.8? and the speed is 3450 rpm? Not that it changes the status of the deal, just sayin it's odd, I would have expected 1/3 or 1/2 HP.

Modern HP ratings are about like early/mid sixties stereo output ratings before commerce forced them into more honest reporting. Where is Government regulation where it matters....

 

[TwoInch]

buffer also says "made in taiwan" in the bottom corner.

 

[Jarhead0408]

Ok, now I'm wondering. What in the world would you need a vise on the tongue of a wagon for? I guess for anything you need it for. A predecessor for the vises mounted on work body trucks I guess.

 

[TwoInch]

from what i read, its more civil war- early 1900s type wagon stuff. back then, you pretty much made what you needed, so a vise would be so important, im sure its hard to even grasp how important in todays mindset.

 

[TwoInch]

some blacksmiths in that era had a wagon called a "traveling forge", also apparenty both union and confederate armies used them also on their wagons

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_forge

edit - not claiming this vise is one of these exact era or type vises. just general info about the style vise.

 

[nine4gmc]

Ok, now I'm wondering. What in the world would you need a vise on the tongue of a wagon for? I guess for anything you need it for. A predecessor for the vises mounted on work body trucks I guess.

fixin horse shoes on-site, etc

 

[TwoInch]

ok fellas, i got another question.

is it not a good idea to mount uo a 1/2 arbor grinding wheel on the buffer? will this work or no. it has no guard, which could be a problem. is there aomething i am not seeing though, that would prevent this? it seems the RPM is fine.

 

[sr71]

....my guess....looks like a vice to clamp a hand saw (for sharpening) .... I have something similar but the "grips" are like 8" wide

 

[RivennHewn]

A grinding wheel without a guard and, more importantly, a rest wouldn't be very safe.

 

[TwoInch]

yeah, probably not a good idea. feels sketchy with the wire wheel totally exposed too.

 

[Outlawmws]

....my guess....looks like a vice to clamp a hand saw (for sharpening) .... I have something similar but the "grips" are like 8" wide

It's not a saw vise, (see posts 23 & 24)

 

[Outlawmws]

ok fellas, i got another question.

is it not a good idea to mount uo a 1/2 arbor grinding wheel on the buffer? will this work or no. it has no guard, which could be a problem. is there something i am not seeing though, that would prevent this? it seems the RPM is fine.

No guard, no rest, no grinding wheel.

The wrap around guard is there in case the wheel comes apart. (which can happen) @3450 RPM, its shrapnel...

Even a wire wheel is uncomfortable, and the tires will "shed" at speed and go flying. I have open open Wire wheel but I keep it to a small 4 or 5" wheel, fine wire only, and moreover its on a lower RPM motor. I'm also about to put a partial guard on it as I hate even that fine stuff flying...

 

[Wrenches of Death]

Actually, the vise is not a post leg vise. It never was. The vise is intended to go on the tongue of a horse drawn wagon.

That's so primitive it's positively barbaric!

WoD

 

[TwoInch]

No guard, no rest, no grinding wheel.

The wrap around guard is there in case the wheel comes apart. (which can happen) @3450 RPM, its shrapnel...

Even a wire wheel is uncomfortable, and the tires will "shed" at speed and go flying. I have open open Wire wheel but I keep it to a small 4 or 5" wheel, fine wire only, and moreover its on a lower RPM motor. I'm also about to put a partial guard on it as I hate even that fine stuff flying...

i have been brainstorming on making some sort of partial guard for the wire wheel. how are these things normally set up? with one fine polishing wheel and one with a more coarse compound on it?

 

[Outlawmws]

Yep, two cloth wheels; different polishing compounds...