Legit tool reviews

[OneEyedMan]

Those poor, unfortunate souls, literally “built America” (and the rest of the world with those **** tools.

They somehow found the time to do something different other than obsess about and arguing endlessly over what is the best” high tooth count” ratchet

Somehow, they were worse off. :

Reminds me of the opening act in Kreutzer Sonata. To paraphrase : “when a man has enough to eat he has many problems, when he doesn’t have enough to eat, he has one problem”

 

[AEAdam]

Those poor, unfortunate souls, literally “built America” (and the rest of the world with those **** tools.

They somehow found the time to do something different other than obsess about and arguing endlessly over what is the best” high tooth count” ratchet

Somehow, they were worse off. :

Wait, you lost me. You are saying their cars, tools, houses were good?

 

[OneEyedMan]

Wait, you lost me. You are saying their cars, tools, houses were good?

I’m pretty sure everything was ok. Maybe not as over the top ok as things are now, but that could be the anti depressants, ozempyc, or weed talking.

 

[scooby074]

All the reviewers besides maybe Catus and TTC are shills IMHO. Den, ****, Last Best are amongst the worst.

Garage King is good, but he basically reads the current SO flyer, but he is a mechanic and does use his tools. Canadian too, which is awesome. Also watch Tekamo HD and BluTech which is actually Cam (from OG Tekamo videos) business. Not really review channels per se, but day to day mechanic work and see what is working in the real world not some bench with a fancy camera. SlowAF12v is also a good channel if youre in the HD mechanic business.

 

[zendriver]

Wait, you lost me. You are saying their cars, tools, houses were good?

They were good enough.

My Grandpa was a master carpenter and a fine woodworker. Most of his tools would get the stink-eye, if they were sold at estate auction today. He also build his own beautiful stylish home, still standing today.

He didn't own one mechanic tool. That was a mechanic was for.

I can look at beautiful welds at old petro facilities and old Navy battleships, that were made with some of the more rudimentary arc welders, ever built.

They got a lot of stuf done with way less than what we have today.

 

[CHI_Tool&Die]

They were good enough.

My Grandpa was a master carpenter and a fine woodworker. Most of his tools would get the stink-eye, if they were sold at estate auction today. He also build his own beautiful stylish home, still standing today.

He didn't own one mechanic tool. That was a mechanic was for.

I can look at beautiful welds at old petro facilities and old Navy battleships, that were made with some of the more rudimentary arc welders, ever built.

They got a lot of stuf done with way less than what we have today.

On the flip side, I’ve seen, lived in, and used plenty of old-timey garbage. Lead pipes, cloth wiring, crooked-*** walls, uneven table legs, acetate handles, asbestos insulation, etc. I’d prefer to have today’s first world problems than have a blast from the past. But that’s just me.

 

[zendriver]

On the flip side, I’ve seen, lived in, and used plenty of old-timey garbage. Lead pipes, cloth wiring, crooked-*** walls, uneven table legs, acetate handles, asbestos insulation, etc. I’d prefer to have today’s first world problems than have a blast from the past. But that’s just me.

On the flipside of what?
I didn’t mention anything about building materials

Not just you, pretty much everybody probably feels the same.

People back them use whatever seemed the best thing in town until something better came along

No different than today

 

[Steve_P]

On the flip side, I’ve seen, lived in, and used plenty of old-timey garbage. Lead pipes, cloth wiring, crooked-*** walls, uneven table legs, acetate handles, asbestos insulation, etc. I’d prefer to have today’s first world problems than have a blast from the past. But that’s just me.

Agree. I grew up in a house that my grandfather built. Structurally solid, still there after 100 years. But there's no comparison to a modern house.

Edit- oh, yeah, we had asbestos insulated pipes. We just held our breath and ripped it off and took it to the dump- they had an open-air spot to dump asbestos. Seriously.

 

[neophyte]

On the flip side, I’ve seen, lived in, and used plenty of old-timey garbage. Lead pipes, cloth wiring, crooked-*** walls, uneven table legs, acetate handles, asbestos insulation, etc. I’d prefer to have today’s first world problems than have a blast from the past. But that’s just me.

There is nothing wrong with “cloth” wiring, particularly the bitumen coated asbestos type.
Lead pipes gave lasted since the time of Ancient Rome, and are still in use, and are fine with mineral rich water that coats the inside.
“Crooked *** walks” are still found in modern construction, and in old construction, might be the result of wood backing or lathe warping, or building settling, which still happens in modern construction.
The only issue with acetate handles is that the handles get stinky over time. (Some people actually like new production acetate handles and hunt them down).
The major issue with asbestos was the way it was used. I’m sure there will be future concerns about replacement materials as well, along with ingredient used in those materials such as formaldehyde.

 

[CoThG]

What about the Obsessed Garage dude?

 

[T45]

Wait, you lost me. You are saying their cars, tools, houses were good?

honeststly, everything peaked in the 1995-2005 timeframe. the 80s better than the 70s, the 90's just a little bit better. the last revision of things with EFI and what not ... same with cars, trucks, and tools for the most part. the better stuff today is still just copies of alot of those tools.

most electronics after that time fram are "negative value add" for the consumer...more stuff to break, become obsolete, etc

 

[shoggoth80]

There's a lot that do end up sounding like shills. I take most of it with the proverbial grain of salt. I don't really follow any particular channel, but will watch various bits that pop up in my feed.

I enjoy TTC. Partly because it seems like they try to put forth unbiased data... And partly because it's fun to see how much torture something will take, without it coming out of my pocket. They at least try to give you an idea of what your money will buy.

I like watching the Toolbox Tours guy. He seems a polite fellow, and I enjoy the chance to see what kind of kit other people are running. Not all wrenching environments are the same.

It's also good to hear from people actively using said tools. Anyone can unbox something and gab about specs off a sheet, or eyeball how uniform the finish/chrome happens to be. What's the real world feedback?

All of these sorts of things help draw a more complete picture.

 

[CHI_Tool&Die]

There's a lot that do end up sounding like shills. I take most of it with the proverbial grain of salt. I don't really follow any particular channel, but will watch various bits that pop up in my feed.

I enjoy TTC. Partly because it seems like they try to put forth unbiased data... And partly because it's fun to see how much torture something will take, without it coming out of my pocket. They at least try to give you an idea of what your money will buy.

I like watching the Toolbox Tours guy. He seems a polite fellow, and I enjoy the chance to see what kind of kit other people are running. Not all wrenching environments are the same.

It's also good to hear from people actively using said tools. Anyone can unbox something and gab about specs off a sheet, or eyeball how uniform the finish/chrome happens to be. What's the real world feedback?

All of these sorts of things help draw a more complete picture.

The Toolbox Tours guy makes you realize that professional techs still overwhelmingly pick Snap-on over any other brand. Outside of the bakery maintenance tech, every other dude has had Snappy ratchets. Also highlights how dominant Milwaukee has become in the industry too.

 

[mreisner]

Agree. I grew up in a house that my grandfather built. Structurally solid, still there after 100 years. But there's no comparison to a modern house.

Edit- oh, yeah, we had asbestos insulated pipes. We just held our breath and ripped it off and took it to the dump- they had an open-air spot to dump asbestos. Seriously.

My dad was a marine engineer and he said many times how they used to Fireproof plaster by mixing into an open drum a handful of asbestos fibers and a handful of plaster. Constantly in the later years had lawyers calling saying they're going to get him big money for asbestos exposure. He died at 93 and his lungs were perfect. Heart not so much but the lungs were just fine.
By Marine engineer I don't mean building things I mean the type of engineer where the captain says where the ship is going and the engineer says if the ship is going.

 

[neophyte]

My dad was a marine engineer and he said many times how they used to Fireproof plaster by mixing into an open drum a handful of asbestos fibers and a handful of plaster. Constantly in the later years had lawyers calling saying they're going to get him big money for asbestos exposure. He died at 93 and his lungs were perfect. Heart not so much but the lungs were just fine.
By Marine engineer I don't mean building things I mean the type of engineer where the captain says where the ship is going and the engineer says if the ship is going.

Asbestos can also be mixed eith plaster for a better sheen.

 

[dscheidt]

My dad was a marine engineer and he said many times how they used to Fireproof plaster by mixing into an open drum a handful of asbestos fibers and a handful of plaster. Constantly in the later years had lawyers calling saying they're going to get him big money for asbestos exposure. He died at 93 and his lungs were perfect. Heart not so much but the lungs were just fine.
By Marine engineer I don't mean building things I mean the type of engineer where the captain says where the ship is going and the engineer says if the ship is going.

cool story, but like most things, an anecdote is pretty worthless as evidence. There is outstandingly strong statistical data that shows asbestos exposure increases the risk of lung cancer, that the risk is dose dependent, and there is a well understood mechanism of action. It’s also synergistic with other risks , particularly smoking.

Too bad, because apart from that, asbestos is great for lots of things. That’s why it was in an amazing array of stuff. One of the other reasons it was used in plaster was for early strength— the fibers kept it from sagging before the gypsum set. It was used in a bunch of products targeted at diyers for that reason, and doesn’t show up as often in professional jobs, except where it was used for fire resistance (it’s commonly found in boiler room ceilings, where no other parts of the building have it).

 

[mreisner]

cool story, but like most things, an anecdote is pretty worthless as evidence. There is outstandingly strong statistical data that shows asbestos exposure increases the risk of lung cancer, that the risk is dose dependent, and there is a well understood mechanism of action. It’s also synergistic with other risks , particularly smoking.

Too bad, because apart from that, asbestos is great for lots of things. That’s why it was in an amazing array of stuff. One of the other reasons it was used in plaster was for early strength— the fibers kept it from sagging before the gypsum set. It was used in a bunch of products targeted at diyers for that reason, and doesn’t show up as often in professional jobs, except where it was used for fire resistance (it’s commonly found in boiler room ceilings, where no other parts of the building have it).

Wasn't meant as anything more than an anecdote,definitely asbestos is bad stuff.

 

[zendriver]

Didn't just about everything have at least some "asbestos" in it, back then?

The whole "shill" moniker is pretty funny. They take something they received en gratis out of the box, enthusiastically demonstrate it's functions, then cheer about how great it is, often compared to something else.

We as consumers, have zero ability to look through all that and make our own determinations, on whether is is something that will work for us, or not.

It is sad.

 

[Nobody-named-Olli]

If you have been exposed to asbestos it usually takes between 20 and 30 years to develop actual symptoms. It’s one reason why for example firefighters have some kind of log/record where potential exposure to asbestos on scene is recorded, so they can proof exposure to asbestos through work & claim compensation (and more) from the state owned accident and prevention and insurance association should that ever be necessary.

Even though asbestos was banned in Germany from 1993, it was only banned European Union wide from 2005. Germany still looks at roughly 1800 cases/year of asbestos related health issues/ cases of cancer.

And for the most part it is not an issue if still present & left undisturbed. But if due to a fire typical sheets/plates used for roofing crack, there’s a lot of fibers airborne. …

I remember seeing a documentary with a rather heartbreaking case of a - then - middle aged woman, established family, two kids, good job - basically at the height of life. Then diagnosed with asbestosis. How she got exposed: As a little girl she helped her mom with household tasks, dad was constantly exposed to asbestos due to work, she then aired and shook out his work cloths before mom would wash them. … I don’t know if her case/claim was ever accepted and settled by the insurance association, she had to jump through as lot of hoops at the time of the documentary, all while knowing that time was running out.

I don’t know how it’s enforced (or if it is actually enforced at all), but there are new laws and regulations in place in Germany that if you hire out construction/renovation/decoration work, and the timeframe of when your building was built matches the years when asbestos was used at scale, you have to actually proof that the area which is being worked in is free of asbestos … Basically have to provide a clean bill of health/ no asbestos waiver.

This stuff is nasty.

Kind regards,
Olli

 

[i84x]

Project Farm, Torque Test Channel, and Tools Tested are the only ones I actually use for hard info. Everything else I take as just an opinion.

They are the only ones who come to mind, as far as i know they buy all the tools themselves.
Project Farm is who i go to the most if i want a specific tool.