Legrand Old Work w/ Quick Click

[nmk_61802]

I am doing some electrical remodeling work on my house, and have a problem with Legrand's Quick Click device mounting. Legrand says that the quick click system is designed not to stip out. While this seems to be true, the do so by never allowing the mounting screw to completely tighten, once pulled flush the screw just slips past the retainer and does not tighten down on device.

I have emailed Legrand about this, but so far thier answer is that Quick Click is functioning normally. My last question to them was if I could not tighten the device to the box, how do they intend on keeping the switch or outlet from rotating on the oval mounting points.

Has anyone else used these and experienced this problem? If so how did you go about correcting it?

 

[Norcal]

I am doing some electrical remodeling work on my house, and have a problem with Legrand's Quick Click device mounting. Legrand says that the quick click system is designed not to stip out. While this seems to be true, the do so by never allowing the mounting screw to completely tighten, once pulled flush the screw just slips past the retainer and does not tighten down on device.

I have emailed Legrand about this, but so far thier answer is that Quick Click is functioning normally. My last question to them was if I could not tighten the device to the box, how do they intend on keeping the switch or outlet from rotating on the oval mounting points.

Has anyone else used these and experienced this problem? If so how did you go about correcting it?

The way to correct it is to avoid "Quik-Clik" products, they are nothing but problems. If one has them installed already, I have used Heli-Coil inserts to fix them, others have used sheet metal or drywall screws which I have no use for. The best fix is to not use the LeGrand/Slater "Quik-Clik" products...........

 

[nmk_61802]

Funny thing is I actually changed out a blue carlon box which a just installed to this. I activly looked for this box because I needed a different style of clamp to work with the existing wiring that was trimmed to short to begin with.

 

[Norcal]

Funny thing is I actually changed out a blue carlon box which a just installed to this. I activly looked for this box because I needed a different style of clamp to work with the existing wiring that was trimmed to short to begin with.

I do not have any fondness for Carlon plastic boxes either. Every time I have the misfortune of using them, "ABC" comes to mind, Anything But Carlon.

 

[ishiboo]

I do not have any fondness for Carlon plastic boxes either. Every time I have the misfortune of using them, "ABC" comes to mind, Anything But Carlon.

The regular plastic boxes **** (don't most brands), but the Super Blue's are just about the nicest plastic boxes I can find around here. They're quite thick and have pretty high cube counts.

 

[ishiboo]

I am doing some electrical remodeling work on my house, and have a problem with Legrand's Quick Click device mounting. Legrand says that the quick click system is designed not to stip out. While this seems to be true, the do so by never allowing the mounting screw to completely tighten, once pulled flush the screw just slips past the retainer and does not tighten down on device.

I have emailed Legrand about this, but so far thier answer is that Quick Click is functioning normally. My last question to them was if I could not tighten the device to the box, how do they intend on keeping the switch or outlet from rotating on the oval mounting points.

Has anyone else used these and experienced this problem? If so how did you go about correcting it?

Are these the ones with the metal tab in them? Or just plastic? I've had very good luck with the metal tab ones, it's great because you can push the screw in with a screwdriver (no need to screw) and tighten the final amount. Have never had one fail. Only have used/seen that for old work though.

 

[nmk_61802]

Are these the ones with the metal tab in them? Or just plastic? I've had very good luck with the metal tab ones, it's great because you can push the screw in with a screwdriver (no need to screw) and tighten the final amount. Have never had one fail. Only have used/seen that for old work though.

Yes, Metal tabs. I've used quite a few, but recently the last few I've used all seem to slip instead of tighten. According to the CSR I have been talking with at Legrand, all of the ones they have there do that and that it is standard. I still have not gotten a response to my question of securing the device in the box if it can not be tightened up.

 

[nmk_61802]

Update, I decided to try a few things on some of the extra boxes that I had on hand. The winner seemed to be replacing the 6-32 machine screw with a #6 pan head sheet metal. Since no threads are cut in the box, I was able to remove the sheet metal screw and go back to the machine screw with no ill affects to my trial box, both tightened equally well

Since these boxes have a metal tab which sets in the threads one side and cut no threads of their own, I thought the coarser thread may work to tighten up the slipping screws in the boxes I had already installed, which it did.

As a side note, I noticed I had accidentally installed a bank of 3- 3way decora switches upside down. Any reason to flip them, since they are not marked for on or off, the top marking should not make a difference correct? I hate that I made that error, as I was checking for it, but missed it on these three. It also seems to work better with the existing wiring, which always seems to short.

 

[speedfreek1210]

no need to flip them over if their 3-ways.