let's see your craftsman block grinders

[drivesitfar]

BCZ:it looks sort of like the one, but not sure since i haven't seen one in person.

i do have another question for the block experts. i saw this on my local Craigs and I've seen the smaller sander attachment on blocks, but never the bigger one. would this one fit or did they make one for our old blocks?

TM: thanks again for staring the thread with all your great research. maybe start another one reserving the first 10 spots or whatever # you think because i think the first post will fill up like was mentioned in the one you started. You are the king of the blocks.

 

[jakemac]

I don't think it will fit the block grinders. That appears to be a dedicated built machine that happens to have a block shape. I think the case is plastic.

It sure is interesting though. From the late 80's into the 90's ?

 

[torqueman2002]

Torqueman, that 1/3 is complete. My 1/3 is identical, the punch outs are there for the tray and lamp, but not punched out at all.

Does the object on top of this grinder look like the Craftsman tool holder for bench grinders?

I thought it did, and sent the seller the $15 he was asking for the whole works.
My brother is picking it up as it is 2 miles from him.

Bill

TM: thanks again for staring the thread with all your great research. maybe start another one reserving the first 10 spots or whatever # you think because i think the first post will fill up like was mentioned in the one you started. You are the king of the blocks.

rick - I gave one to my brother like yours and this one, I meant that although it may-not have been built with the tray and lamp, a lot of people look for them. I'm thinking a tray could be added (if the buyer is lucky to find one) and the knock-out removed. The lamp too, could be added. So, I misspoke, it looks to be OEM, but not fully 'optioned'? Nice Grinders those 1/3 HP Blocks.

Bill - Glad you snagged that one. I thought it looked like a tool holder/sharpener. $15 Yup, You ****!

drive - Glad to do it. It keeps me busy while I am playing Daddy day caregiver to 3 Labs. 1 and 2 are easy (grown 4 & 5yrs), add an 8 week pup and I'm all ->
Here they are, after playing hard, the pup keeps up with the big girls, but crashes often. These 2 arrive at 6:30 am when my daughter drops them off on her way to work/school.

Resting-up and keeping an eye-out for the sharp toothed pup.

Pup crashed at the water dish after a Memorial Day in the park.

Yes, I should have planned the other thread with more reserve for growing into the first few pages. Good thing it's not a mature thread, re-posting what's there will be easier this way.

Thanks for all the words of encouragement, and help.

 

[Outlawmws]

BCZY, yes, that does look like it, or possibly the OEM's version of it. for sharpening planer blades, chisels etc...

 

[bczygan]

Search update.

BTW - I spotted a 1/3 HP Round Top, nice, complete (except lamp & q-tray), asking $40.

Flint, MI CL listing (22 days ago). link.
http://flint.craigslist.org/for/4453960876.html

Somebody go get it!

It really seems a shame for that grinder to be homeless......so I arranged to pick it up in Utica.......really don't need it. But now I can give bench grinders out to friends and family for Christmas and birthdays.
Our anniversary is coming up soon. 28 or 29 years...I think it is the bench grinder one...Happy anniversary sweetheart...here's your grinder...you've earned it!

 

[McBrownie]

Well, here it is after a light restoration.

Before. The only thing wrong was a little rust on the center tin. The paint had failed and there was some pitting:
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A little sanding, a few coats of primer with some light sanding in between, then Rustoleum Metallic Silver and Rustoleum Crystal Clear:
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And here is the finished product:
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Has anyone seen a connector for the power cord as shown in the last picture? Is this standard for commercial grinder or a modification?

 

[McBrownie]

I don't thing it will fit the block grinders. That appears to be a dedicated built machine that happens to have a block shape. I think the case is plastic.

It sure is interesting though. From the late 80's into the 90's ?

I think this should fit:

http://www.trick-tools.com/Multitool_2_x_48_inch_Belt_Grinder_Attachment_MT482_307#.U4SYONJdW4Q

 

[exmaxima1]

i do have another question for the block experts. i saw this on my local Craigs and I've seen the smaller sander attachment on blocks, but never the bigger one. would this one fit or did they make one for our old blocks?

That's a dedicated machine: combo belt sander/disc sander. Not an attachment.

 

[torqueman2002]

...really don't need it. ... Our anniversary is coming up soon. 28 or 29 years...I think it is the bench grinder one...Happy anniversary sweetheart...here's your grinder...you've earned it!

... finished product:
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Has anyone seen a connector for the power cord as shown in the last picture? Is this standard for commercial grinder or a modification?

I think this should fit:

http://www.trick-tools.com/Multitool_2_x_48_inch_Belt_Grinder_Attachment_MT482_307#.U4SYONJdW4Q

bczygan - Need has nothing to do with it, now hand over your Blockhead card, we'll just have to cut one of the corners off!

My 29th is in August! I don't have to do any shopping, just choose a good one (not too good) from stock! But Mrs. Torqueman may need some suggestions, .... let's see a 1/3 HP Block grinder in today's $$ should buy which Baldor ...?

I like it ... Happy 29th Anniversary Sweetheart.

McB - Nice job. I like the way those stones fill up the wheel houses (err ... guards), like over sized tires on a street rod.

I also like the stand - let me guess, .... bar stool! ?

That's quite a connector, non-OEM by my experience. I made a water resistant HD multi-outlet extension cord with a connector like that, from HDepot.

I like the 'Multitool'. Has anyone put a Block to use spinning one?

 

[balane]

You did a very nice job on it, looks nice. In regards to your question I don't believe that's an original grommet for the power cable. On every one I've personally seen the power cable goes into where I have the red circle in this image.

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[McBrownie]

McB - Nice job. I like the way those stones fill up the wheel houses (err ... guards), like over sized tires on a street rod.

I also like the stand - let me guess, .... bar stool! ?

That's quite a connector, non-OEM by my experience. I made a water resistant HD multi-outlet extension cord with a connector like that, from HDepot.

Thanks! There really wasn't much that needed to be done. The stones are craftsman and appear to be original. The stool is way too wobbly to make a good (read "safe") barstool.

The connector has a name on it and I'll post that info later. I didn't think that it was original. Someone did some soldering when they replaced the cord. The Amp-style connectors are kind of a mess.

 

[ecotec]

It really seems a shame for that grinder to be homeless......so I arranged to pick it up in Utica.......really don't need it. But now I can give bench grinders out to friends and family for Christmas and birthdays.
Our anniversary is coming up soon. 28 or 29 years...I think it is the bench grinder one...Happy anniversary sweetheart...here's your grinder...you've earned it!

Oh, man. I wish that I had seen that first. Nice score.

 

[McBrownie]

You did a very nice job on it, looks nice. In regards to your question I don't believe that's an original grommet for the power cable. On every one I've personally seen the power cable goes into where I have the red circle in this image.

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Thank you! The problem with that connector is that you need to remove the power cord and the connector to get to the one of the cover screws. Kind of a pain, but nothing that needs to be done very often, so no big deal.

 

[bczygan]

Oh, man. I wish that I had seen that first. Nice score.

OK,
Here's my first grinder giveaway...

If you want first chance at it, it's yours. Seller wants $40, which seems fair.

PM, or better yet, email me with your name and phone, and I'll put you in touch with the seller.

You will have to pick it up at 7PM on Saturday, at the Dawn donuts on Hall Road just west of VanDyke.

Interested?

Bill

 

[bczygan]

OK,
Here's my first grinder giveaway...

If you want first chance at it, it's yours. Seller wants $40, which seems fair.

PM, or better yet, email me with your name and phone, and I'll put you in touch with the seller.

You will have to pick it up at 7PM on Saturday, at the Dawn donuts on Hall Road just west of VanDyke.

Interested?

Bill

COOL!
It's going to ecotec, who has a 1/4HP round top, and needs more!

Bill

 

[torqueman2002]

OK,
Here's my first grinder giveaway...

If you want first chance at it, it's yours. Seller wants $40, which seems fair.

PM, or better yet, email me with your name and phone, and I'll put you in touch with the seller.

You will have to pick it up at 7PM on Saturday, at the Dawn donuts on Hall Road just west of VanDyke.

Interested?

Bill

COOL!
It's going to ecotec, who has a 1/4HP round top, and needs more!

Bill

Watch out for the !

 

[macnewbie]

I like the 'Multitool'. Has anyone put a Block to use spinning one?

I have. In a way, the multi tool kind of got me started with block grinders, but that is a long story.

At any rate, I have and like the multi tool. I still wish I had the space and funds for a proper belt grinder, but for the cost and amount of use it sees in my shop, the multi tool can't be beat, especially with the trizact belts.

 

[McBrownie]

I have. In a way, the multi tool kind of got me started with block grinders, but that is a long story.

At any rate, I have and like the multi tool. I still wish I had the space and funds for a proper belt grinder, but for the cost and amount of use it sees in my shop, the multi tool can't be beat, especially with the trizact belts.

Which size do you have and on what size (HP) grinder? I'm seriously considering converting my 1980's 1/2hp to one of those. which means, of course, that I would have to repaint it.

 

[McBrownie]

TM, here is the link to the NEMA motor information. Im not sure how permanent this link is and I can't seem to find this information on the nema.org site. But, here it is:

http://www.pdhonline.org/courses/e156/e156content.pdf

Points of interest:

"1-Phase, Split Phase: Moderate to low starting torque, no capacitor and has starting switch. Used on easy start, belt-drive fans and blowers light start pump applications and gear motors. "

"1-Phase, Capacitor-Start: Designed in both moderate and high starting torque types with both having moderate starting current and high breakdown torque. Uses include conveyors and air compressors. "

That might help explain some of the difference between split phase and cap start motors on non-commercial and commercial grinders.

And this about the Design C designation:

"NEMA Design C motors have high starting torques with low starting currents. They are designed for starting heavy loads due to their high locked rotor torques and high full load slip. "

 

[jakemac]

OK,
Here's my first grinder giveaway...

If you want first chance at it, it's yours. Seller wants $40, which seems fair.

PM, or better yet, email me with your name and phone, and I'll put you in touch with the seller.

You will have to pick it up at 7PM on Saturday, at the Dawn donuts on Hall Road just west of VanDyke.

Interested?

Bill

COOL!
It's going to ecotec, who has a 1/4HP round top, and needs more!

Bill

Watch out for the !

Watch out torque, it seems that you have competition in the block grinder search business. Who's gonna keep the score ?

 

[bczygan]

Watch out torque, it seems that you have competition in the block grinder search business. Who's gonna keep the score ?

After I get my offer accepted.....I'll tell you what I just found...
Not online either.

 

[McBrownie]

Watch out torque, it seems that you have competition in the block grinder search business. Who's gonna keep the score ?

Actually, I was on Torqueman's list for a 1/3hp and he PM'd me about that very grinder early AM on Memorial Day. I have proof!

Edit: By the way, I wasn't interested in that grinder and I'm glad it is going to a good home. Congrats Ecotec!

 

[torqueman2002]

TM, here is the link to the NEMA motor information. Im not sure how permanent this link is and I can't seem to find this information on the nema.org site. But, here it is:

http://www.pdhonline.org/courses/e156/e156content.pdf

Points of interest:

"1-Phase, Split Phase: Moderate to low starting torque, no capacitor and has starting switch. Used on easy start, belt-drive fans and blowers light start pump applications and gear motors. "

"1-Phase, Capacitor-Start: Designed in both moderate and high starting torque types with both having moderate starting current and high breakdown torque. Uses include conveyors and air compressors. "

That might help explain some of the difference between split phase and cap start motors on non-commercial and commercial grinders.

And this about the Design C designation:

"NEMA Design C motors have high starting torques with low starting currents. They are designed for starting heavy loads due to their high locked rotor torques and high full load slip. "

McB - Thanks! I did a quick scan/read and found answers to several questions I have wondered about.

• TYPE
• INSULATION CLASS (CLASS)
• MAXIMUM AMBIENT TEMPERATURE
• FRAME SIZE

I'll put it in the new-new thread, I'm waiting though.

I've posted a question in the To The Editors > Questions & Suggestions section, about using PotoBucket Thumbnails.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=249229

Before I move onto rev. 01, I'd like to see if I can get the pages a little smaller, with the option of viewing a larger pic.

 

[bczygan]

after i get my offer accepted.....i'll tell you what i just found...
Not online either.

1 Horsepower New in the box!

 

[jakemac]

wannaseeit wannaseeit wannaseeit

Black or Gray ?

 

[bczygan]

wannaseeit wannaseeit wannaseeit

Black or Gray ?

Black:

 

[nine4gmc]

<--- Is jealous

 

[jakemac]

Black:

Early 80's.

 

[nine4gmc]

Jealousy pending

 

[McBrownie]

Black:

Wow! Can't wait to hear how you found that one! Hopefully it was in a warehouse with a bunch of others!

 

[GirchyGirchy]

Girchy: sorry i didn't even notice that bend and it is cast. it doesn't seem to be in the way so in my personal opinion i wouldn't mess with it unless you get another thicker wire or stone wheel that it does. even then i think i would put a few washers on that side and move the wheel over a bit since you don't have a cover on the outside and there is plenty of threads left on the arbor.

now if you really want to mess with 50 year old cast i'm sure heat and a slow bending or hammering method is involved and i'll defer to others to walk you through that and i'll wish you the best.

I've decided to not touch it. I'd wanted to do some buffing anyway, so I'll just remove both wheel guards, plug the holes with bolts, and run it that way. Then I'll use the 1/4 for grinding and wire wheels.

 

[ecotec]

Congrats Ecotec!

Thanks, man. I have a long day planned for saturday, ending with a new (old) bench grinder.

Now, I need to find an OEM stand a week later like I did on my other one. What were the odds of that? I knew it looked like the Craftsman one, so I bought it. I was very happy when nine4 said it was the OEM stand.

I am going to keep it down to two grinders.

I figure a fine and a course grit grinding wheel on the 1/3hp and a polishing wheel and a wire wheel on the 1/4hp.

next: a minty original finish router/table and minty original finish table saw.

 

[ecotec]

1 Horsepower New in the box!

Holy hell! That did not take you long. Is it an all metal one?

 

[torqueman2002]

Wow! Can't wait to hear how you found that one! Hopefully it was in a warehouse with a bunch of others!

The should not be under-estimated.

 

[torqueman2002]

1 Horsepower New in the box!

Torqueman offers to pick it up for you.

Uh oh, I'm starting to refer to myself in the 3rd person.

Reefer, did someone say reefer ...?

 

[ecotec]

I am going to keep it down to two grinders.

I figure a fine and a course grit grinding wheel on the 1/3hp and a polishing wheel and a wire wheel on the 1/4hp.

I meant an aluminum oxide and a silicon carbide on the 1/3hp.

 

[drivesitfar]

Girchy: We've been talking about arbor extensions for the last couple months and possibly having a member make some on his lathe for the Block guys. i'm not sure where we are on the process, but if we get them the extensions will be right and left threaded and won't chew up the existing threads on our block's arbors like the old style ones do. read back some and maybe TM will give us an update after he gets back from his smoke break.

BCZ: as soon as i get to the top of the list does that mean it's my turn to get a new in the box block grinder? is it really a block since it looks like late 80's early 90's by the Craftsman logo on the manual. in any case it looks like the style i really like and congrats on finding it. the last time there was a brand new in the box over 20 year old grinder it took a couple weeks for us to see it. i know you probably don't own it yet, but damn i'm sure i'm not the only one that can't wait to see it on your bench. nice find.

 

[GirchyGirchy]

Girchy: We've been talking about arbor extensions for the last couple months and possibly having a member make some on his lathe for the Block guys. i'm not sure where we are on the process, but if we get them the extensions will be right and left threaded and won't chew up the existing threads on our block's arbors like the old style ones do. read back some and maybe TM will give us an update after he gets back from his smoke break.

I think I voted in that for the 1/2" ones....hopefully the price won't be too bad!

 

[cagullett1]

Girchy: We've been talking about arbor extensions for the last couple months and possibly having a member make some on his lathe for the Block guys. i'm not sure where we are on the process, but if we get them the extensions will be right and left threaded and won't chew up the existing threads on our block's arbors like the old style ones do. read back some and maybe TM will give us an update after he gets back from his smoke break.

In a random conversation with my dad (a retired machinist), I was telling him about a GJer making the arbor extensions. I just paid TM for a couple of grinders that he has so I should have my very first block grinder in the next couple weeks. My dad still has access to the shop he worked in (Raytheon, so you can only imagine the amount of equipment they have), and said he would take a look at the grinders and see what he could come up with. If something happens and our original member doesn't end up making them for us, I might have a second option!

 

[McBrownie]

I am going to keep it down to two grinders.

I figure a fine and a course grit grinding wheel on the 1/3hp and a polishing wheel and a wire wheel on the 1/4hp.

That is my plan. I know it's not a popular statement on this thread, but two is enough. I'll keep my round top with the original fine and coarse wheels and convert my flat top to wire wheel on the left and a buffer on the right. It means that I'm going to have to repaint the flat top. It's feeling pretty bad having to sit next to his cleaned up older brother. Can you see the shame and humiliation in his beat up label? I mean, his picture is taken on a garbage can instead of a bar stool! No respect for the flat top, so far.

With the new bearings, its a good runner. A repaint is in order. I wish I could find a new label, though.