let's see your craftsman block grinders

[Outlawmws]

Not sure if you mean ALL Chinese products are ****, or just the lowest end. I can tell you my 2 Squier (Fender) Classic Vibe basses are as nice as any USA versions I've owned, and I predict they will go up in value in the future. You give the Chinese a proper spec and equipment, and they can build anything.

Did I say it was?

I won't buy any Chicom stuff I can possibly avoid because I don't want to provide any more support for the worlds largest slave state. Period. They are also clearly interceding to win through economics what they can't win by direct warfare. The Chi-com leadership still hopes for Empire.

So I avoid supporting the enemy...

But my real point is happening today, with cheap **** made in Japan just after WWII (and truth be told for at least a couple of decades afterwards) have they gotten better? Of course, but different industries at different times.

Some of that cheap "made in Japan" stuff still survives, and some is becoming collectible if only because of rarity of surviving pieces. Most was recognized as the **** it was and tossed one way another.

But it's still cheap ****...

 

[Outlawmws]

Interesting that the document says that the stand is only for 1/4, 1/3 and 1/2hp models. What about the big boys?

Probably too top heavy tr be safe?

 

[nine4gmc]

Probably too top heavy tr be safe?

I'm thinking slightly wider base on the 3/4 & 1 hp?

 

[drivesitfar]

HB: awesome story. sorry to hear your Dad is watching and guiding you in spirit now, but i bet he taught you some great life lessons. i paid almost 3 times that much for my 1/2 HP commercial, but it wasn't a 3 hour drive. the handy block guys will help you if you need any help spiffing that one up, but doesn't look like it needs a lot. nice find.

TM: did you really ask first or ask for forgiveness from Mrs. TM? i bet it was the latter and i'm guessing she didn't think you were going for a block grinder in a foot of snow so you probably got an easy exit. nice find and maybe a nice assist from Frank too.

EX: i'm sure the Chinese can make awesome things if the importers ever wanted to pay the money. my very high end golf shafts and driver heads would come from there and they were second to none, but not cheap.

Outlaw: China isn't like North Korea anymore, but you do have a point.

All: I'm guessing the bigger 3/4 and 1 HP blocks were really only meant to be on benches with those huge water trays and tool rests because they would tip that stand over.

 

[firemanast]

Harleybuilder

That's is a great price on the grinder congratulations !

 

[Outlawmws]

Drives: isn't it? I hadn't noticed. Sure it puts on a facade of free enterprise, as the "corp" level, but how many their people actually get to decide where to live, and what their work will be?

Sorry, they went from one form of feudalistic society, to a different form of feudalistic society... (Which is the only reason they, and Soviet union managed to pull it off so long...)

So No I still won't buy "Made in the PRC" unless there is no other realistic choice... ABC...

 

[exmaxima1]

I won't buy any Chicom stuff I can possibly avoid because I don't want to provide any more support for the worlds largest slave state. Period.

Having traveled numerous times to China, and my son married to a Chinese woman he met in college, I feel obliged to comment on this nonsense. On what basis is China "the world's largest slave state"?

Of the approx 30 million people enslaved in the world, China is estimated to have 2.9 million. India has 14 million, and the balance is among the other countries, predominantly in Africa. So China does not appear to have the most.

And if you base it against their population, China with it's 1.35 billion people only has .21% as slaves, while India with its 1.25 billion people is nearly 1.1%. So how is China the largest?

Further, where in China are most of those 2.9M slaves? The consensus has been in their prisons. Indeed, if you compare them to the USA where roughly 2 million citizens are in prisons and forced to work for 25 cents/hr you see .6% of our 300 million population enslaved.

http://www.iacenter.org/prisoners/prisons-slave-labor061111/

Clearly something is amiss with that statement. I may agree on hit or miss product quality in China, but I can't knock them for being the worst in the world for their methods.

 

[exmaxima1]

EX: i'm sure the Chinese can make awesome things if the importers ever wanted to pay the money. my very high end golf shafts and driver heads would come from there and they were second to none, but not cheap.

I have traveled through many parts of China, and you would be amazed at their technology. They view business much differently than in the US, and concentrate on long-term growth. They build massive bridges, 6 lane roads, high-speed railroads, and modern cities. The people I met were hard working, and just as capitalistic as us westerners---they want cars, homes, and luxury watches/jewelry/purses/clothing just like us. They have a similar democracy where they vote for a third-party representative (similar to our Electoral College), and most professionals work less than 40 hrs/week. If they live in rural areas they can have lots of kids, but in the cities they must pay a rather steep tax if they have more than one child--I actually think that makes more sense than our system of rewarding people to have more kids that they can't afford to raise. In any case, China is not going away so we need to deal with it just as we have with Sears, Walmart, Harbor Freight, Apple, etc....

 

[drivesitfar]

Ex: interesting facts, but we still need to do something about us buying all the cheap **** that is made in China. it's our cheap throwaway society that we've become with most of the US companies selling this junk to our kids and grandkids. i'm not sure what the fix is to reverse this.

ALL: so for the sake of getting back to the thread we have a 60 year old grinder that with a little care might last another 50 to 100 years. so if this technology has been around for that long has there been another grinder that is the do all be all?

I'd vote for Baldor because i have yet to have one fail, but i'd like to hear from the rest of the world. did all the technology go into developing the finest belt grinders? and can they do everything and more than our smallish block grinders can? Do we all love our block grinders because they do a heckuva job for under $200 and they are made to last? please give me (us) your thoughts if you have some facts to share.

 

[Outlawmws]

Not going to discuss it Ex, as I don't feel like getting banned for political discussion/infighting, but suffice it to say that you have to get out of the stereotypical mind set that slavery = chains and prisons. Modern slavery is FAR more subtle, and yes China leads the world. Do some studying and quit believing everything the propaganda machine and the model cities you are allowed to view slant unbiased analysis.

Is China on the move? Yes, that's part of what scares me. Will they achieve their real goals? I hope not, but the real stopper in their plans is their population; it is aging fast, as are many other countries outside the third world.

 

[McBrownie]

Ex: interesting facts, but we still need to do something about us buying all the cheap **** that is made in China. it's our cheap throwaway society that we've become with most of the US companies selling this junk to our kids and grandkids. i'm not sure what the fix is to reverse this.

ALL: so for the sake of getting back to the thread we have a 60 year old grinder that with a little care might last another 50 to 100 years. so if this technology has been around for that long has there been another grinder that is the do all be all?

I'd vote for Baldor because i have yet to have one fail, but i'd like to hear from the rest of the world. did all the technology go into developing the finest belt grinders? and can they do everything and more than our smallish block grinders can? Do we all love our block grinders because they do a heckuva job for under $200 and they are made to last? please give me (us) your thoughts if you have some facts to share.

Drives,

Here is where I think the future of grinders is heading. DC motors, variable speed, plated wheels, quiet and expensive! I'm sure the price of these will come down. Apparently these produce a much better finish and no more exploding wheels or abrasive dust to worry about. Take a look:

http://www.trick-tools.com/T8-Tradesman-3-Variable-Speed-Tool-Grinder-T-8-7603#.VNd6R2t5mK0

 

[Outlawmws]

Hmmm, McB, It's odd that they sell the grinder, but not the wheels? I went looking as often the media over the life of a grinder/polisher equal or exceed the cost of the tool itself...

And it appears that this is, at the current time, a specialized media aimed at specialized, areas. One suppliers product statement (And still haven't found any pricing):

While the P.B.S.® system allows for diamond materials to be brazed to the substrate, electroplated bonds mechanically entrap diamond particles on the tool. There are several advantages to electroplated technology:

The ability to manufacture tight-tolerance forms.
Lower initial cost, compared to vitrified, resin and metal bonded superabrasive wheels.
Freer cutting, resulting in higher material removal rates, less power required and reduced thermal damage to the workpiece.
The ability to hold form or profile from first to last cut.
Elimination of time associated with dressing.
The ability to strip and replate the core.
AT recommends precision plated products for grinding in creep feed or high speed grinding applications, such as nickel-based superalloys, engineered ceramics, cobalt-based superalloys, ferrous alloys, W C (finishing operations) and tungsten carbide.

Interesting approach, none the less.

 

[torqueman2002]

Drives, OK if I comment on your multi-quote, in Blue? Thanks in advance. Torqueman

HB: awesome story. sorry to hear your Dad is watching and guiding you in spirit now, ...
I know my Dad has helped from afar, all these years after his passing.
Using his tools or ones like he had (Estwing Leather Handle Hammer) is special.
... the handy block guys will help you if you need any help spiffing that one up, but doesn't look like it needs a lot. nice find.
Yup, nice find. Post up any questions, there's a wealth of knowledge, and experience in this tread, and posters are friendly and eager to help.

TM: did you really ask first or ask for forgiveness from Mrs. TM? i bet it was the latter and i'm guessing she didn't think you were going for a block grinder in a foot of snow so you probably got an easy exit. nice find and maybe a nice assist from Frank too.
Snows only on the lawns now, so easy drive.
It was a bit of both with the Mrs. I told her as we were both leaving the house to run errands.
Later I let her know that the stand was as good as gone. It helps that I hand her cash every now and then.
....
All: I'm guessing the bigger 3/4 and 1 HP blocks were really only meant to be on benches with those huge water trays and tool rests because they would tip that stand over.
I'll pull the grinder off the stand to see if there's a date. That might help narrow down when the stand and grinder would have been sold.
I have copies of a lot of Sears Tool catalogs, I'll see if the big boys were available during that time frame.

 

[bluebolt]

Harleybuilder, nice score on that Commercial block!

Torqueman, you **** on the grinder and stand for $30!

To all. The Block 3/4 and 1 HP had their own stand. The 1/2 and smaller is 9-2964, the 3/4 mailbox uses the same stand according to the 1972 catalog. Hopefully Torqueman can look in a 1976 era catalog for the bigger grinders stand.

 

[JackDiddly]

O.K. My now fellow Block-Heads, I picked up this 1/2 horse BG off of CL a couple weeks ago for $25, missing one eye sheild, quench tray, and spark arrestors(if you follow the garage sale thread you may have seen it!) I picked it up late on a Friday night from the seller at a storage facility with no plug to test bummer, but he gave me his word that it was working, for $25 I wasn't gonna argue. Anyway took it home plugged it in and it worked o.k. no loud noises no explosions! I started to dissect it anyway, It had a mismatched screw in the cover which suggests its been apart at least partially before. Once I got it all the way down one of the bearings while not horrible was sounding a little gritty, no big deal picked up new bearings from a local supplier (Whisler bearings and drives - $9.17ea.) So I am getting to the point of re-assembly and I have seen the topic of the c clips inner of the bearings on shaft mentioned a few times and also in Torquemans recent vid, However there were no clips on mine when I took it apart, I am attaching a pic of one side of the shaft of what looks to be a channel for the clip. All of the diagrams I am looking at show the whole motor shaft and bearing as an assy, so I cannot verify they were there to begin with.(not a machinest, but if I am reading my caliper correctly it looks like that space on the shaft is approximately .032 larger than the bearing) Hoping that one from the hardware store won't be too thick if need be. Wondering if anyone can verify on an identical model? (397.19441) Sorry for the extremely long and wordy post!

 

[McBrownie]

Hmmm, McB, It's odd that they sell the grinder, but not the wheels? I went looking as often the media over the life of a grinder/polisher equal or exceed the cost of the tool itself...

And it appears that this is, at the current time, a specialized media aimed at specialized, areas. One suppliers product statement (And still haven't found any pricing):



Interesting approach, none the less.

That is interesting about the wheels. My guess is that they are a big percentage of that $1400 price tag. I wonder about their longevity too. My guess is that they would be very durable.

 

[McBrownie]

O.K. My now fellow Block-Heads, I picked up this 1/2 horse BG off of CL a couple weeks ago for $25, missing one eye sheild, quench tray, and spark arrestors(if you follow the garage sale thread you may have seen it!) I picked it up late on a Friday night from the seller at a storage facility with no plug to test bummer, but he gave me his word that it was working, for $25 I wasn't gonna argue. Anyway took it home plugged it in and it worked o.k. no loud noises no explosions! I started to dissect it anyway, It had a mismatched screw in the cover which suggests its been apart at least partially before. Once I got it all the way down one of the bearings while not horrible was sounding a little gritty, no big deal picked up new bearings from a local supplier (Whisler bearings and drives - $9.17ea.) So I am getting to the point of re-assembly and I have seen the topic of the c clips inner of the bearings on shaft mentioned a few times and also in Torquemans recent vid, However there were no clips on mine when I took it apart, I am attaching a pic of one side of the shaft of what looks to be a channel for the clip. All of the diagrams I am looking at show the whole motor shaft and bearing as an assy, so I cannot verify they were there to begin with.(not a machinest, but if I am reading my caliper correctly it looks like that space on the shaft is approximately .032 larger than the bearing) Hoping that one from the hardware store won't be too thick if need be. Wondering if anyone can verify on an identical model? (397.19441) Sorry for the extremely long and wordy post!

My dirty old 1/2hp split-phase did not have circlips either. The large washer seated against the larger diameter of the shaft.

View media item 40373
I don't like circlips myself. I think they make it difficult to get the wheel running true. Nice grinder, btw and for $25 in that condition it was a steal.

 

[torqueman2002]

O.K. My now fellow Block-Heads, I picked up this 1/2 horse BG off of CL a couple weeks ago for $25, missing one eye sheild, quench tray, and spark arrestors(if you follow the garage sale thread you may have seen it!) I picked it up late on a Friday night from the seller at a storage facility with no plug to test bummer, but he gave me his word that it was working, for $25 I wasn't gonna argue. Anyway took it home plugged it in and it worked o.k. no loud noises no explosions! I started to dissect it anyway, It had a mismatched screw in the cover which suggests its been apart at least partially before. Once I got it all the way down one of the bearings while not horrible was sounding a little gritty, no big deal picked up new bearings from a local supplier (Whisler bearings and drives - $9.17ea.) So I am getting to the point of re-assembly and I have seen the topic of the c clips inner of the bearings on shaft mentioned a few times and also in Torquemans recent vid, However there were no clips on mine when I took it apart, I am attaching a pic of one side of the shaft of what looks to be a channel for the clip. All of the diagrams I am looking at show the whole motor shaft and bearing as an assy, so I cannot verify they were there to begin with.(not a machinest, but if I am reading my caliper correctly it looks like that space on the shaft is approximately .032 larger than the bearing) Hoping that one from the hardware store won't be too thick if need be. Wondering if anyone can verify on an identical model? (397.19441) Sorry for the extremely long and wordy post!

Quick reply before I make like a fetus and 'head out'.
I've only seen the 'c-clip' on the two 1 HP Blocks I've torn down.

Sorry for any confusion, haven't seen them on 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, or 3/4 HP Blocks.

 

[drivesitfar]

TM: Happy to hear Mrs. TM is happy. for all those young guys that need to hear this a Happy Wife is a Happy Life. you can't say NO often so just try to get your way on a few things.

Funny story today. i was having breakfast (or waiting for it) at our local good food greasy spoon and i was on my cell phone looking at Craigslist while my wife was reading a book on hers. for the heck of it i grabbed her and kissed her and then she smiled and asked what i found to buy. nothing this time honey, but we both had a laugh.

I'm off to go start building a couple welding tables and maybe a hitch mount for my 1/2 HP Block. will this make a good grinder stand?

cheers

 

[McBrownie]

Quick reply before I make like a fetus and 'head out'.
I've only seen the 'c-clip' on the two 1 HP Blocks I've torn down.

Sorry for any confusion, haven't seen them on 1/4, 1/3, 1/2, or 3/4 HP Blocks.

My 3/4hp Industrial Rated has circlips. But I don't have pictures, so you'll just have to trust me.

View media item 44807

 

[vertguy]

Cleaned up and installed a different lamp that arrived yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised how well it cleaned up as a scotchbrite quickly removed the overspray and light tarnish/rust. The paint was in surprisingly good condition. Forgot to snap a before shot, but found a couple the seller had posted.

 

[nine4gmc]

That lamp is awesome and cleaned up well Vert, great job!

 

[firemanast]

vertguy

Looks sweet job well done !

 

[McBrownie]

Cleaned up and installed a different lamp that arrived yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised how well it cleaned up as a scotchbrite quickly removed the overspray and light tarnish/rust. The paint was in surprisingly good condition. Forgot to snap a before shot, but found a couple the seller had posted.

Did you find a Vimco? Please share where you found it.

 

[McBrownie]

I'm off to go start building a couple welding tables and maybe a hitch mount for my 1/2 HP Block. will this make a good grinder stand?

Drives, I think so and a hitch mount might be a cheaper way to make use of this for the this attachment that I have been looking at for the Multitool/BlockMeister.

http://www.trick-tools.com/MT-Workrest-Multitool-Belt-Grinder-Workrest-7991#.VNf4wPnF-y4

What do you think?

 

[vertguy]

The lamp was an ebay find. Not sure of the brand... are there some markings or logo to look for? About the only thing I saw when cleaning it up was Leviton on the switch.

 

[McBrownie]

The lamp was an ebay find. Not sure of the brand... are there some markings or logo to look for? About the only thing I saw when cleaning it up was Leviton on the switch.

On mine and others that I have seen on Blocks, they weren't shy about saying who made it. The shade, the socket, and the socket cap all say Vimco. The socket cap on mine also say Buffalo, NY.

View media item 47532

 

[JackDiddly]

Thanks for the replies I feel better putting it back as I found it now.
Vert, nice lamp

 

[harleybuilder]

Thanks for all of the comments.
JD you got a great deal on that one. ......

 

[torqueman2002]

The following post has been approved by Mrs. Torqueman.

I made a successful trip to the nearby city of Redford. A Catholic Church in fact had a small 1/4 HP CM Block grinder on a CM stand on CL for $30.

Well, I don't need another Block or CM stand; do I?

I know someone will buy the stand and the 1/4 HP well, ....

Here's the CL ad, but you've already seen it.

As I was getting a tour of what other items were for sale, I spotted an original CM document. The seller said he set it out for me. A copy is attached for downloading.

The Bock and stand are still in the truck, with the other items I bought and was given.

I'll post up better pictures later.

As promised, here are more pictures.

DOB - Dec 28 1967. I was home from college listening to 'Magical Mystery Tour'

More pictures of the grinder and stand --> PB SlideShow. http://s786.photobucket.com/user/torqueman2002/slideshow/CM 25 HP 397_19400 Redford

Added, 2/09/15
I forgot to post the non-grinder items.

A $40 locker. After a coat of paint this spring it will be pressed into service in the garage.

A free school clock. I'm tempted to set it permanently at 3:17 PM, dismissal time!

 

[nine4gmc]

I was negative 6 when the grinder was born but I do have that album Tman!.

 

[drivesitfar]

McB: that is some grinder that $1400 one with those special wheels and that very cool speed control. I'm wondering if you Ex, TM and a few of the other members might be able to make a speed control for our blocks? wouldn't that be so cool?

I'm not sure that multy task stand would hold the Blockmeister. do you? also that little attachment is $50 on top of the stand price of $50 and you could probably make a pretty sweet stand for $150 with your talent if you need something better than your beefed up Workmate.

Vert: nice looking lamp. how about a picture of the grinder on the original stand you have now full size in your clean looking shop/garage?

ALL: so i started moving my welding table supplies over to my neighbor's garage since he has all the welding equipment and found out most of my support metal i was going to use is Stainless steel. of course when you buy things from an airplane owner that is getting up in years i guess that can happen. my welder doesn't know how to weld stainless so should i try to exchange, buy new steel or tell the welder to use a different welding material and what. sorry if i'm a bit off topic, but as you know most of you could probably build a space ship with a couple parts. thanks

 

[nine4gmc]

Drives, you could probably sell that stainless for enough to cover the regular steel you'd need for the table.

 

[torqueman2002]

Interesting that the document says that the stand is only for 1/4, 1/3 and 1/2hp models. What about the big boys?

I wonder if that's all they sold back then.

I'll see if I have a catalog for this guy.

I'm thinking slightly wider base on the 3/4 & 1 hp?

OK, this is what I've uncovered.

The 1/4 HP Block m-397.19400 has a DOB of Dec 28 1967.

I have a copy of the Sears 1966, 1968, and 1969 Sears-Craftsman-Power-Hand-Tools Catalogs. 1967

In 1966, Sears sold 1/4, 1/3, and 1/2-HP round top (mail box) Block Grinders.
99 M 2964K Craftsman Grinder Pedestal Stand was specified for 1/4, 1/3, and 1/2-HP grinders.

99 M 1966L 3/4-HP non-Block grinder model is listed: "New Craftsman Heavy-duty Commercial Grinder single-phase capacitor-start motor is induction run. Two 8x1-inch wheels. Metal eye shields with lamps. Shpg. wtg. 70 lbs. $99.99
Pedestal for above grinder - none listed.

In 1968, Sears sold 1/4, 1/3, and 1/2-HP round top (mail box) Block Grinders. They appear to be the same style as in the 1966 catalog, with different model numbers and a price bump.
1966 99 M 1940K 1/4-HP $38.99
1968 99 KT 1940K 1/4-HP $39.99

99 KT 1966N 3/4-HP non-Block grinder model. Shpg. wtg. 73 lbs. Still $99.99
99 KT 2960L New Pedestal for above grinder. Shpg. wtg. 48 lbs. $39.99

In 1969, Sears sold 1/4, 1/3, and 1/2-HP round top (mail box) Block Grinders. They appear to be the same style as in the 1966 and 1968 catalogs, with different model numbers and a price bump.
1966 99 M 1940K 1/4-HP $38.99
1968 99 KT 1940K 1/4-HP $39.99
1969 99 AT 1940C 1/4-HP $44.99

Gone was the 3/4-HP non-Block grinder model.
99 AT 1967N New: Block round top (mail box) style 3/4-HP single-phase capacitor motor. Extra heavy 1-piece cast iron base (with quench tray and tool rests). 5/8-in. x 18-threaded shaft. 110-120 or 230-V. Shpg. wtg. 58 lbs. $109.95
Pedestal for above grinder - none listed

See attached file for more details and link to Sears Tool Catalogs.

Please, if anyone has a link to the 'missing' years; kindly post it.

Thanks for looking.

 

[torqueman2002]

I was negative 6 when the grinder was born but I do have that album Tman!.

That's Kool.

Do you still spin vinyl?

Funny, my son loves vinyl. He has a number of my LPs.

I 'built up' a vintage system for him when he was a freshman in 2005, which he still uses. Mitsubishi components and large Advents. All eBay and very reasonable at the time. Found a good used turntable and new stylus, before he went on to grad school. Slowly he's acquiring my vinyl library.

 

[torqueman2002]

See my comments in Blue.

TM: Happy to hear Mrs. TM is happy. for all those young guys that need to hear this a Happy Wife is a Happy Life. you can't say NO often so just try to get your way on a few things.
Amen!

Funny story today. i was having breakfast (or waiting for it) at our local good food greasy spoon and i was on my cell phone looking at Craigslist while my wife was reading a book on hers. for the heck of it i grabbed her and kissed her and then she smiled and asked what i found to buy. nothing this time honey, but we both had a laugh.

I'm off to go start building a couple welding tables and maybe a hitch mount for my 1/2 HP Block. will this make a good grinder stand?
Me want, me have to get bigger garage!

cheers

My 3/4hp Industrial Rated has circlips. But I don't have pictures, so you'll just have to trust me.

I have not inspected one like that, yet. Thanks.

Cleaned up and installed a different lamp that arrived yesterday. I was pleasantly surprised how well it cleaned up as a scotchbrite quickly removed the overspray and light tarnish/rust. The paint was in surprisingly good condition. Forgot to snap a before shot, but found a couple the seller had posted.
That doe look nice!

On mine and others that I have seen on Blocks, they weren't shy about saying who made it. The shade, the socket, and the socket cap all say Vimco. The socket cap on mine also say Buffalo, NY.
Now I'll have to check mine. That is sweet.View media item 47532

 

[drivesitfar]

TM: I don't have the 1967 Craftsman catalog saved for some reason and maybe Jake does. I've got most of them from 1933 to 1970 saved. I think i'd have to open the catalog on my computer and save the grinder page. is that how you did it? what years do you want me (us) try to post?

Nines: any idea what stainless is worth or should i just try to go to the welding supply steel warehouse and do some horse trading? maybe 2 pieces of steel for same size of my stainless or ?? i could also just pop up an ad on Craigs and probably find a few new friends? can you weld stainless and how because my neighbor has about $30,000 worth of welding equipment?

ALL: by the way my funny story earlier used to drive my wife crazy with me looking on Craigslist or Ebay, but after 30 years i guess she is coming on board now or maybe my kissing has improved. cheers

 

[nine4gmc]

That's Kool.

Do you still spin vinyl?

Funny, my son loves vinyl. He has a number of my LPs.

I 'built up' a vintage system for him when he was a freshman in 2005, which he still uses. Mitsubishi components and large Advents. All eBay and very reasonable at the time. Found a good used turntable and new stylus, before he went on to grad school. Slowly he's acquiring my vinyl library.

I sold or gave away all my records when CDs got popular, then late last year I saw a cl ad in the free section for 100s of records. I could not believe it but the guy just wanted them to go to a good home. I got almost 300 albums for free, after picking trough them and keeping what my girl and I wanted, we ended up with well over 100 great albums. I didn't have a player so I shopped the garage sales for a couple months before my step dad mentioned he had some things for me to keep/sell whatever I wanted to do with. Turned out to be another couple hundred albums and two record players. SCORE !

Funny you mention the Advents too, my neighbor gave me a set of Advents that needed new surrounds on the 10" woofers, I ordered a set and now have a jamming system and huge library for less than $20. If you factor in the excess records we sold for $1ea, I'm actually up almost $200

 

[torqueman2002]

Here's the latest update to the Want/Wish List.

Please let me know if there are corrections, updates to be made.

For more information the W/W List, see: 01/03/2015 GJ (post #3761).
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4516788&postcount=3761

 

[torqueman2002]

My comments are in Blue.

TM: I don't have the 1967 Craftsman catalog saved for some reason and maybe Jake does. I've got most of them from 1933 to 1970 saved. I think i'd have to open the catalog on my computer and save the grinder page. is that how you did it?
I went to the link below, opened/saved the catalogs I wanted. (pdf)
what years do you want me (us) try to post?
Sorry, I should have explained myself better. I have downloaded Sears Craftsman catalogs from the following link.
http://www.blackburntools.com/articles/rose-tools-catalog-archives/sears/index.html

This is what I believe is missing.
1951
1958
1961
1962
1965
1967
1970
1974 and newer

ALL: by the way my funny story earlier used to drive my wife crazy with me looking on Craigslist or Ebay, but after 30 years i guess she is coming on board now or maybe my kissing has improved. cheers

I sold or gave away all my records when CDs got popular, then late last year I saw a cl ad in the free section for 100s of records. I could not believe it but the guy just wanted them to go to a good home. I got almost 300 albums for free, after picking trough them and keeping what my girl and I wanted, we ended up with well over 100 great albums. I didn't have a player so I shopped the garage sales for a couple months before my step dad mentioned he had some things for me to keep/sell whatever I wanted to do with. Turned out to be another couple hundred albums and two record players. SCORE !

Funny you mention the Advents too, my neighbor gave me a set of Advents that needed new surrounds on the 10" woofers, I ordered a set and now have a jamming system and huge library for less than $20. If you factor in the excess records we sold for $1ea, I'm actually up almost $200
The Advents were heaven sent when I was in school. I saved for months to buy the vinyl wrapped pair.
Then to hear the congas in Black Magic Woman! Oh, man!
I was so lucky, my upstairs landlord worked nights.

I found a document on my computer that mentions how to mount a 3/4-HP grinder to the pedestal stand. I don't know the date of publication.