let's see your craftsman block grinders

[jakemac]

While innocently minding my own business this morning, a flock of Ninja's came out of nowhere and threatened to do me bodily harm unless I submitted to their demand for me to put this Block grinder in the back of my truck and take it home. And then to add insult to injury, they stole $40 out of my pocket to buy Egg McMuffins to eat on the ride back to their lair. I've never felt so violated !



It's a model 397.19340 1/2hp 6" Flat Top with the short removable quench tray and original stand. The side covers are the round style, with no exhaust ports. The only parts missing are the rubber feet and black plastic lamp cover. I have extra feet in stock, and the cover is only a mouse clik away.

It runs smooth with a long run-down time, but the wheels may need to be replaced. They're both clogged smooth as a baby's **** with burnt wood. I'm not sure that the contractor that I bought it from ever used it to grind metal. I'll try dressing them first, but they may be too far gone.

My #6 Block grinder

 

[trijeff]

I can't believe the audacity of that guy stealing McD's money ... the thievery!! But seriously, nice score jakemac! Btw, know where I can get those rubber feet? They're for the stand bottom, right?

 

[mtwaterguy]

Here's a shot of my 257 if that'll help.

Based on the casting date stamps of the last of the flat tops (which were early to mid 1980's), I would guess late '80's or early '90's. Definitely the end of an era of USA made grinders. Very nice find and, like TM, I would like to some pics of the internals as well.

 

[jakemac]

Btw, know where I can get those rubber feet? They're for the stand bottom, right?

No, I was talking about the ones that go on the grinder. The ones that someone made for under the stand were repurposed boat bumpers, I believe.

 

[harleybuilder]

The rubber feet for the grinder are Hillman #884633 at Lowe's

 

[mtwaterguy]

The rubber feet for the grinder are Hillman #884633 at Lowe's

Just picked up 5 of those yesterday. They fit just as originals.

 

[harleybuilder]

Just picked up 5 of those yesterday. They fit just as originals.

Yes they do.

 

[Outlawmws]

I just got this Sad Sack for $10 today: 1/3 HP no date on either side of the metal plate on the bottom. Not sure of age based on the gold label and plain Craftsman lettering...

 

[jakemac]

Outlaw - I can't see the pictures, but a goldish plate suggests to me earlier, rather than later. Sometime in the 60's perhaps.

 

[Outlawmws]

Try the Garage sale thread; they are linked from there.

 

[drivesitfar]

Jake: nice find and sorry for your loss of $40. original stand too and if you have room do all 6 of yours have different wheels and all original stands too?

Outlaw: for some reason your pictures didn't post on your most reason overpriced block find. can you check that or post again?

 

[jakemac]

Jake: nice find and sorry for your loss of $40. original stand too and if you have room do all 6 of yours have different wheels and all original stands too?

For some reason I always end up being 2 short on stands. I keep buying them, but I always seem to have 2 more grinders than I have of the stands.

Oh, well. Maybe if I keep buying them, the math will work itself out.

 

[Outlawmws]

OK I found the problem the upload didn't complete on submit. it should be OK now...

 

[jakemac]

Ooooooo [cringe !] Poor baby fall down, go boom.

That label looks like one of he silver backed ones with the gray painted area where the data is. My gold backed ones are dated 1967. I couldn't find a date on the silver backed one, but I think it's earlier.

 

[Outlawmws]

It is actually the gold/bronze, color. And yes, been dropped more than once! what is amazing is I plugged it in and it SANG. good start-up and smooth and quiet...

 

[exmaxima1]

IIRC, the commercial factor is dual voltage.
1/2 Hp with dust ports are 7" units
-115v only are non commercial
-115/230v are commercial

3/4 hp and above are 8", dual voltage, some are labeled commercial, some are not.

They also made a 1/3hp round top? with dust ports that was dual voltage and labeled commercial.

Adding to this:

1/2 hp w/o dust ports are 6" wheels
3/4 hp with 1/2" shaft are 7" wheels

Any issues with this?

 

[bczygan]

There's a 1/4HP block on Detroit CL.
Haven't seen one of these.
387.19300
He wants $75

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tls/4985414978.html

Manual:

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=2183

 

[torqueman2002]

There's a 1/4HP block on Detroit CL.
Haven't seen one of these.
387.19300
He wants $75

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tls/4985414978.html

Manual:

http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/detail.aspx?id=2183

Beat me to it.

 

[torqueman2002]

I just got this Sad Sack for $10 today: 1/3 HP no date on either side of the metal plate on the bottom. Not sure of age based on the gold label and plain Craftsman lettering...

After I finish up with Huey, Dewy, and Louie's 1/3-HP Blocks, I should have a 1/3-HP parts grinder that could help out this poor little fella.

 

[bczygan]

Beat me to it.

I'm full up on grinders and out of the game.....

 

[jrobb316]

Picked up this 1/3 HP with both original wheels, one is installed, and the original manual. On an aftermarket stand. Don't worry, I did NOT stray into Michigan, though I was close. Seller said he bought it new in 1977 and only used it a few times.

 

[torqueman2002]

Picked up this 1/3 HP with both original wheels, one is installed, and the original manual. On an aftermarket stand. Don't worry, I did NOT stray into Michigan, though I was close. Seller said he bought it new in 1977 and only used it a few times.

Nice score.

Lat time I checked, VintageMachinery's web site did not have a copy of your manual.
http://vintagemachinery.org/home.aspx
If you get a change to scan it and submit it in pdf format, I'm sure you'd receive a big thanks from the members.


BTW - I consider MI's UP part of WI anyways!

And the bumpy part around Benton Harbor, MI isn't worth hanging on to either.

 

[jrobb316]

Nice score.

Lat time I checked, VintageMachinery's web site did not have a copy of your manual.
http://vintagemachinery.org/home.aspx
If you get a change to scan it and submit it in pdf format, I'm sure you'd receive a big thanks from the members.


BTW - I consider MI's UP part of WI anyways!

And the bumpy part around Benton Harbor, MI isn't worth hanging on to either.

I was close to Benton Harbor. Made a run on a few things, this was one of them. I will scan it and see what I can do. I think you should just give the UP to Canada. WI doesn't want it!

 

[jrobb316]

Scanned the owners book. Here are the pics, I don't have pdf creation software. If you need the originals, just PM me and ill email them direct to whoever wants to make a book out of it.

 

[jrobb316]

Part 2

 

[jakemac]

I can do it, PM sent.

 

[torqueman2002]

I can do it, PM sent.

jakemac & jrobb316 - Thanks!

 

[RivennHewn]

Somebody has a birthday coming up:

I started cleaning up my new toy, but didn't really find much to clean.

For being 41 years old, I think it looks pretty dang good!

 

[CNGsaves]

Wow, the SUCKAGE is awful deep . . . . your scores are AWESOME !!

That 1/3 HP and 1/2 HP grinder are both pristine. Congrats !!

 

[Outlawmws]

After I finish up with Huey, Dewy, and Louie's 1/3-HP Blocks, I should have a 1/3-HP parts grinder that could help out this poor little fella.

Cool! let me know!

 

[bagged89s10]

I have not seen a low priced block in my area for a while. I saw this 1/3HP today but it's pricey at $125. If the seller lets it go for $75 i might grab it because I kind of want that stand. Anyone know what kind of stand it is?

 

[mtwaterguy]

Looks like a generic stand for remote mounted drive motors. Maybe table saw or band saw? I have one similar in wood with a band saw mounted on it.

 

[jakemac]

It's not a Craftsman stand. Maybe an Atlas or Delta/Rockwell. I've seen it before, but I can't remember what it was sitting under.

 

[exmaxima1]

It's not a Craftsman stand. Maybe an Atlas or Delta/Rockwell. I've seen it before, but I can't remember what it was sitting under.

The curved legs certainly look like Delta or Atlas. I would guess a jointer or bandsaw stand

 

[drivesitfar]

Bagged: since the 1/3 HP fills up the stand pretty well i'm also guessing maybe a Delta/Milwaukee bandsaw stand. it does have a nicely made wood top to it so it does have some value in the deal.

 

[nine4gmc]

I'm guessing that stand is a Delta as we'll, looks like what's under my miter saw.

 

[zkling]

It is a Delta stand, off the top of my head and aspect ratio without knowing dimensions I'd say jointer or possibly bandsaw. The bandsaw stands were pretty narrow though. Based on the width of the grinder I don't think that is for the bandsaw. Could be a sander stand as well. :

 

[bagged89s10]

It's not a Craftsman stand. Maybe an Atlas or Delta/Rockwell. I've seen it before, but I can't remember what it was sitting under.

The curved legs certainly look like Delta or Atlas. I would guess a jointer or bandsaw stand

Bagged: since the 1/3 HP fills up the stand pretty well i'm also guessing maybe a Delta/Milwaukee bandsaw stand. it does have a nicely made wood top to it so it does have some value in the deal.

I'm guessing that stand is a Delta as we'll, looks like what's under my miter saw.

It is a Delta stand, off the top of my head and aspect ratio without knowing dimensions I'd say jointer or possibly bandsaw. The bandsaw stands were pretty narrow though. Based on the width of the grinder I don't think that is for the bandsaw. Could be a sander stand as well. :

Thanks everyone for the info. I already have a genuine craftsman stand for my 1/2HP so this stand might be cool to either put my other 2 blocks, or mount my belt sander project.

Not to get off track but I have this Dayton belt sander I got for $23, and I have an 11" inch pulley that I got for free with a table saw, which had a 3/4 Hp craftsman motor. I want to make a tubular vertical mount for it.







~Veeps

 

[bczygan]

1/3HP round top Industrial
397.19580
May have been posted before with rusty metal eyeshields and has water tray.
Westland, MI
Posted an hour ago
$55
http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tls/4986776118.html

Manual:
http://vintagemachinery.org/pubs/222/2202.pdf

 

[harleybuilder]

I have emailed the seller twice about shipping with no response so maybe someone on here in that area might go save it.

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/tls/4983321508.html