Let's show our wood (screwdrivers)

[RTM]

Ok, now more time to look. In the screwdriver section the most likely patent is number 2,287,457, there's a note here about screwdriver #88 adapted for interchangeable bits. 1942 issued

US2287457A - Screw driver - Google Patents

 

[Private Lugnutz]

That's it! Nice work, and thanks.

By the way, dear steward, I respectfully submit that I think the note in the Walter book and the note at the bottom of the DATAMP page for 2,287,457 ("This is Stanley's No. 88 tool handle.") are potentially misleading, or, at the very least, incomplete. The patent, for "a screwdriver comprising a handle adapted to receive removable bits," and entirely focused on the pinched shank meant to accept and hold a tapered bit by wedging, is not exclusive to the No. 88. It clearly also applies to the No. 8. In fact, there is no mention, reference, or allusion to a hollow cavity in the handle for extra bits in the patent text, and none shown in the patent drawing, making that feature of the No. 88 extraneous to the patent's claims. I recommend, "This is Stanley's No. 8 and No. 88 tool handles." Please use my photos and catalog cuts if you need them.

 

[RTM]

That's it! Nice work, and thanks.

By the way, dear steward, I respectfully submit that I think the note in the Walter book and the note at the bottom of the DATAMP page for 2,287,457 ("This is Stanley's No. 88 tool handle.") are potentially misleading, or, at the very least, incomplete. The patent, for "a screwdriver comprising a handle adapted to receive removable bits," and entirely focused on the pinched shank meant to accept and hold a tapered bit by wedging, is not exclusive to the No. 88. It clearly also applies to the No. 8. In fact, there is no mention, reference, or allusion to a hollow cavity in the handle for extra bits in the patent text, and none shown in the patent drawing, making that feature of the No. 88 extraneous to the patent's claims. I recommend, "This is Stanley's No. 8 and No. 88 tool handles." Please use my photos and catalog cuts if you need them.

I'm not that steward. I'm braces and bits. Gotta stay in my lane for a while. Or find my way back to my lane, been a while.

I suspect that DATAMP steward who originally entered it took that info from Walter's book, since it is the bible for Stanley. Was the best reference back then, oh these many years ago. My version has about 50 pages of patents in it, an easy jump start

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Rgr/Ack. I'll contact someone else (eventually!)

 

[paulm12]

anyone want these? free.



PM me if interested, thanks.

 

[bigb5454]

Hi Everyone, hopefully I'm in the right thread (if not please point me in the right direction) was trying to find out some information (age - scarcity) of this Phillips brand Phillips screwdriver and am running into some road blocks. I can find history of Phillips and such but nothing that shows how to tell age? Any help or point me in the right direction?

 

[d42jeep]

I believe that Lic 1 belonged to Stanley although they were apparently selling shanks or permission to other manufacturers. Most Lic 1 screwdrivers are Stanley. What patent numbers are marked on the blade? Patent 2507231 is post 1950. These are pre 1950.
-Don

Pre 1950 patent numbers.

 

[bigb5454]

Hi Don, The patent numbers are: 2046837 and 2046840. Take a look at the other photo's in the thumbnails. Gives some more views.

Brian

 

[bigb5454]

Hi Don, The patent numbers are: 2046837 and 2046840. Take a look at the other photo's in the thumbnails. Gives some more views.

Brian

Looks like your pics also have those same patent numbers. Didnt know Phillips provided shanks to others. Makes sense. Have any clue on who the tool manufacturer would be for the tool I have? No markings so maybe it will remain a mystery....

 

[Mintgrun]

Have any clue on who the tool manufacturer would be for the tool I have? No markings so maybe it will remain a mystery....

I see what looks like WP2 next to the pliers marks. I'm going to guess the pliers rubbed out the Bonney script. Here's a photo I shared in post number 488 above.


Tom

 

[d42jeep]

I seem to recall that Username told me that Stanley was supplying screwdrivers to Bonney so very likely manufactured by Stanley no matter the markings.
-Don

 

[bigb5454]

Wow Mintgrun! You picked that up and I never even saw it. Looking closer I believe that you are correct it does look like a "WP2". Great eye!
Thanks Don. So I'll take it since the Pat. date is the same as in your pics, that the tool is pre 1950's. It looks like the "flutes" on the handle of your Stanley's are space a tad further apart than on my tool. Interesting about Stanley providing tools to Bonney.

 

[bigb5454]

Wow Mintgrun! You picked that up and I never even saw it. Looking closer I believe that you are correct it does look like a "WP2". Great eye!
Thanks Don. So I'll take it since the Pat. date is the same as in your pics, that the tool is pre 1950's. It looks like the "flutes" on the handle of your Stanley's are space a tad further apart than on my tool. Interesting about Stanley providing tools to Bonney.

Also, it looks like I can make out a very faint "Y" in the right light.....

 

[d42jeep]

Here is my Bonney that Mintgrun IDed for me upthread.
-Don

 

[bigb5454]

Here is my Bonney that Mintgrun IDed for me upthread.
-Don

Nice. So you saw my patent date looked like the same as yours. Before 1950 vintage, correct?

 

[d42jeep]

Correct.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Before 1950 vintage, correct?

Those tandem patents were granted on July 7, 1936.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Found this cutiepie at the flea yesterday.

 

[RTM]

Chefs Hat!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Yessir. Looking through a few catalogs, I am pretty sure it's from the 1920's, before 1938 for sure, and they called it a No. 66, although the ferrule has no part numbers, just the brand and location. Note the knurled shank. Cocobolo handle. The tip has been altered, unfortunately.

 

[ararat]

Nice little screwdriver. It reminded me that I have this little unmarked screwdriver. Tuna can for scale.

 

[Mintgrun]

This is the first WORTH screwdriver I've seen. That brand name makes it hard to pull up search results because most of them have to do with questioning value. I dangled it in the E-bucket for a few minutes and then chucked the shank in the lathe and spun it smoother with sand paper. It looks like it may have been black to begin with.

 

[d42jeep]

I need to quit accumulating these but this one was very reasonably priced. These with the FSN stamped on the shank are Korean War era, not WW2. They are commonly mis-identified by sellers.
-Don

 

[Private Lugnutz]

This is the first WORTH screwdriver I've seen. That brand name makes it hard to pull up search results because most of them have to do with questioning value.

Nice find! It's not clear if you resolved it for yourself or not, so I'll point out that is a Pexto trademark. Registered 1935, first use 1914.

 

[Mintgrun]

Nice find! It's not clear if you resolved it for yourself or not, so I'll point out that is a Pexto trademark. Registered 1935, first use 1914.

Thanks, Lugz. I debated posting it in the Pexto thread, but put it here instead.

Deciding where to post tools is similar to figuring out how to store them; by brand name, or by tool type. I searched the Pexto thread and didn't see any WORTH screwdrivers, so I considered sharing it there. I put some WORTH pliers in that thread and have a chisel I could add, as well as a pipe wrench.

I don't have a dedicated WORTH tool box, so it'll live in the wood-handled-screwdriver collection... and appear in the w-h-s thread, for now.

I don't come across many WORTH tools. I am fond of that brand, maybe because I like the long-topped-T and smaller "OR" logo.

The first thing I noticed about this screwdriver was that the ferrule was large, compared to the wood handle. That's also true for this VACO screwdriver I recently bought, shown alongside a Stanley Defiance handle for comparison.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Deciding where to post tools is similar to figuring out how to store them; by brand name, or by tool type.

I have a few other storage categories that exacerbates this fundamental issue, such as application (Bell System, US Army GMTK, etc). Definitely a headache. Second only to trying to remember whether I stored something by brand, type, or application!

I am fond of that brand, maybe because I like the long-topped-T and smaller "OR" logo.

It's a very cool logo.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Picked up this Disston "Electric" beehive at the flea this morning. The blade has been whittled. ('Scuse the blurry markings!) Shown with its big bro in the last pic.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

An old Stanley hurwood screwdriver

 

[d42jeep]

GMTK correct 16” perfect handle Irwin arrived in the mail yesterday. These are getting pretty hard to find, especially in this condition.
-Don

 

[Ksem89]

Picked these up at an estate, not sure why lol. What am I gonna do with 27 " screwdrivers!?

There is a couple Stanley's here, and Yankee, and mechanics tool &forge.

K

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Any North Bros is good, and I LOVE the big two-handed handle, but the early MAC is a very special find!

 

[Ksem89]

Any North Bros is good, and I LOVE the big two-handed handle, but the early MAC is a very special find!

I had to research your comment a little lol. I had not idea mechanics tool & forge made MAC. What so special about it? I really know very little on wooden handled screwdrivers.

thanks

k

 

[Private Lugnutz]

What so special about it?

That it's early MAC. Not commonly found.

 

[Mintgrun]

The size/shape of this handle caught my eye. It's unusually large, compared to most of the ones I've come across.

It's the first Australian made tool I've found.



I can't quite make out the brand name, or find any others online. Any help?​

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Turner. (Which could not be a better name for a screwdriver mfgr! )

 

[Farmer J.]

Turner. (Which could not be a better name for a screwdriver mfgr! )

Turner Industries Ltd Tools

Hand Tool Preservation Association of Australia Inc. - Turner Tools

htpaa.org.au

 

[Old Radar]

Here's a Reed & Prince, Fearson's cross-recess screwdriver I found some time ago.
It's 14.5" OAL and the shaft is 3/8"
The ferrule differs from others posted here in that it only has "Made In USA" and has knurling on the end instead of a prominent lip.



The shaft has the RP trademark just forward of the ferrule and has what appears to be an "S" or less likely a "5" directly below it.
Does anyone else have a character below the trademark on theirs? Could it be a date code? (BTW, the JWB are the smallest owner stamps I've ever run accross)


The remains of the company name and address are on a single facet of the handle.
I can just make out the first "R", PRINCE, and the CO.
The second line is completely illegible to me.
The tip is in fairly good shape despite someone trying to use this monster to turn a tiny screw.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Does anyone else have a character below the trademark on theirs?

No.

The second line is completely illegible to me.

If I had to guess, "Worcester-Chicago", which is ink-stamped on a separate flute on mine.

 

[Old Radar]

I agree, but wonder if, due to the other differences, this example is older and would only be Worcester.
Regardless, here is a logo I found:

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Could be.

That would make a neat tattoo for a Reed & Prince nut.