Lift comparison ? Please help with reviews
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positive I will be ordering the Dannmar D-10 CX tmr morning. It's positive thing when they are ATL-ETL certified plus they was awarded the gold globe media award at Sema in 2018. I have heard and read lots of reviews/discussions on both lifts. Not trying to bash Greg Smith Equipment but that was where I was going to purchase the Atlas OH-10X but seen a few negative reports. I will be purchasing the Dannmar from bestbuyequipment.com, I will try to update the transaction as it goes through.
positive I will be ordering the Dannmar D-10 CX tmr morning. It's positive thing when they are ATL-ETL certified plus they was awarded the gold globe media award at Sema in 2018. I have heard and read lots of reviews/discussions on both lifts. Not trying to bash Greg Smith Equipment but that was where I was going to purchase the Atlas OH-10X but seen a few negative reports. I will be purchasing the Dannmar from bestbuyequipment.com, I will try to update the transaction as it goes through.FANTM58
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I just pulled the plug on my order,,,
I went with the Forward I10,,,,,
Delivered to my shop for $2799.
They are made by and assembled by ROTORY. overseas....
I did not compare the units you mentioned...
I went with the Forward I10,,,,,
Delivered to my shop for $2799.
They are made by and assembled by ROTORY. overseas....
I did not compare the units you mentioned...
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Where did you buy from? Haven’t found it that cheap yet.
FANTM58
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So this is one of the Tuxedo family of lifts that are widely denigrated.
This morning, I was at a local shop getting my car smog tested. The shop had a bay with one of the Tuxedo TP9KAC 9K lifts. This is the really cheap lift that was sold under dozens of names. The Greg Smith site has a page showing how to identify one so you don't buy one by accident. It is a 3 bay shop and the other bays have an alignment lift and an in ground center post lift. It clearly gets a lot of use.
I asked the shop owner what he thinks of it. He likes it. Uses it all the time, especially for muffler work. Doesn't have problems.
I'm pretty sure he uses it more in two months than I will use a lift in my lifetime. My heaviest vehicle is a 2wd 1/2 ton extra cab pickup. The heaviest thing I can imagine ever buying is a 4wd f250 (no diesel, no dually). I expect to only work on my own cars, mostly jeeps.
This has me wondering if I am overthinking that whole thing.
I'm now considering an "Auto Lift AL2-11KC-DX 11,000 lbs" https://www.bestbuyautoequipment.co...1k-bi-symmetric-2-post-lift-p/al2-11kc-dx.htm
This appears to be the non-certified version of the TP10KAC-DX. It is $400 cheaper.
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Mesozoic
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I'm also looking closer at the Auto Lift AL2-11KC-DX. The brand was suggested to me by a friend who owns a transmission shop and has installed and operated about 5-6 lifts at his shop in addition to 3 lifts he's installed in his private garage. For the hobbyist, it appears to be a solid choice, especially at the price point.
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I just put in my atlas 10X and am very pleased with quality and ease of assembly. picked it up at dealer and saved on shipping. Have lifted a f250 crew short bed power stroke and a excursion had some deflection on posts, but upon repositioning of truck was gone, operator error. Would highly recommend.
Thanks for the feedback on those. I know this is an old thread, but it's still good info. I was always planning on getting a new lift from Greg Smith in Portland, but they've closed down! Now I'm looking at adding several hundred in shipping costs. No thanks. I'm sure Greg Smith has a vested interest in scaring people away from the Tuxedo type units, but they're not exactly selling Bendpak quality at GS themselves.
That seems like the same unit as the Tuxedo TP11KC-DX, right? I think I'd like to have a bi-symmetric unit like this. My Fiat was kind of a pain with the symmetric lift I left at my old house. Symmetric was fine for balancing a Superduty crew cab longbed however. I woundn't mind easier access through the driver's door when I'm doing smaller rigs as well.
My new shop also only has one bay, so if I want to pull my GMC motorhome inside to do some work, the extra wide 116" column spacing of the TP11KC-DX will be very nice. I can get it to my door from $2700 from Lowe's with a veteran's discount. Does anyone know if I can beat that price anywhere else? Tuxedo or similar?
Mesozoic
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Yes, I believe the Auto Lift is a Tuxedo. I'm impressed with what I received from Best Buy Automotive Equipment. It's definitely not a small lift, so that has its challenges and there's a couple of parts that come with the installation kit that aren't up to the task, but overall it is an excellent deal and has thus far performed solidly. The issues I had were the copper seals that come with the hydraulic fittings and the safety shutoff switch mounted in the top beam. I replaced these components with higher quality parts and no issues.
Good to hear. Thanks for taking the time to provide a little feedback.
sweetk30
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all these cheeper **** quality lifts are flooding the market . they scare me a lot from a guy who worked 15+ years in a shop with lifts going up day after day .
my current home shop has a cheepy 2 post in it that was here already so i figured i would try it . . . . when i can save up the money its going in the TRASH can . its a pita to set a car on it from the ground already as 1 arm is welded off square and it needs the car up on a 1x4 or pick the fender to swing the arm under .
the arms have more slop that good brand lifts . the adapters for height are small and wobbly on the arms . and there ether 1.5" or 5" tall no middle ground . i had a machinest friend make me some new ones with a wiider body for more stability and 3" and 4,5" heights . these and stock get me 95% spot on now .
the lift towers that hold the arms are all over the place up and down in the main towers . i have metal shavings dropping out some times from them binding up . the plastic wear pads get chewed up from all the weld over spray splatter they got in the areas the pads run up and down .
the adjustments for the towers to be equal i can not get them to be equal at all so i gave up .
so do your self a favor . buy QUALITY and look at others first hand before you buy one .
i am a fan of rotory for the most part . if i had unlimited funds or a smoking deal used it would be mohawk .
watch this video to see what some of the points i am talking about add up to and how to avoid a bad lift .
my current home shop has a cheepy 2 post in it that was here already so i figured i would try it . . . . when i can save up the money its going in the TRASH can . its a pita to set a car on it from the ground already as 1 arm is welded off square and it needs the car up on a 1x4 or pick the fender to swing the arm under .
the arms have more slop that good brand lifts . the adapters for height are small and wobbly on the arms . and there ether 1.5" or 5" tall no middle ground . i had a machinest friend make me some new ones with a wiider body for more stability and 3" and 4,5" heights . these and stock get me 95% spot on now .
the lift towers that hold the arms are all over the place up and down in the main towers . i have metal shavings dropping out some times from them binding up . the plastic wear pads get chewed up from all the weld over spray splatter they got in the areas the pads run up and down .
the adjustments for the towers to be equal i can not get them to be equal at all so i gave up .
so do your self a favor . buy QUALITY and look at others first hand before you buy one .
i am a fan of rotory for the most part . if i had unlimited funds or a smoking deal used it would be mohawk .
watch this video to see what some of the points i am talking about add up to and how to avoid a bad lift .
I would take a look at this one. They are in Washington State. I haven't seen it in person, but the specs look great, plus ALI certified.
https://www.apluslift.com/collections/car-lifts/products/apluslift-2-post-car-lift-falcon-tr-10c#
Short discusion here: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467192
https://www.apluslift.com/collections/car-lifts/products/apluslift-2-post-car-lift-falcon-tr-10c#
Short discusion here: https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=467192
sweetk30
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Looks the same main parts as the 1 i linked here in the video that failed bad in testing . Just the color is different.
I can agree that the lift was overrated, but that doesn't make it inherently unsafe. Remember, it wouldn't lift 10k, and it took 15k to break it. So if the power unit will only lift 8k, it probably won't come crashing down on your head. The bypass valves are usually matched to limit the lift to weights it can actually handle (I've read this in multiple manuals). They had to force the thing with a different pump, circumventing the bypass valve safety feature. This isn't much of an unbiased test. Greg Smith is already trying to serve the low-end market with their Chinese products, so of course they target the competition.
Is there an actual testing standard for these things? I know the narrator likes to say "industry standards", but I'd rather read an ANSI spec or something.
I think everyone is pretty used to things from China with over-inflated specs. They're trying to lure everyone in with overrated stuff and pretend it competes with the higher end stuff. Nothing new under the sun there. I think the actual weight of the lift can be somewhat telling as well.
I'm not surprised the baseplate model's columns deflected like that. It's an inherently poor design, and places WAY too much bending moment on the attachment points and concrete, and demands a much stiffer column. The difference is enormous. I'm definitely going with an overhead.
I find it interesting that the comments on that video got turned off...
Seems like they don't want called out on their scientific methods.
sweetk30
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I get your points and feel the same on most .
And my lift the towers are starting to deform just a hair bit were the tower arm risers go up and down. If you look at them dead on they bown just a bit .
I like to live on the edge but if i was buying a new lift i would be 100% name brand and rock solid proven life span of workmanship .
I know others dont use them every day like some of us do . But think over the few bucks your saving in the long run and is the lesser quality worth it ?
To each there own and hope our view pount both sides help you pick a good option for you .
And my lift the towers are starting to deform just a hair bit were the tower arm risers go up and down. If you look at them dead on they bown just a bit .
I like to live on the edge but if i was buying a new lift i would be 100% name brand and rock solid proven life span of workmanship .
I know others dont use them every day like some of us do . But think over the few bucks your saving in the long run and is the lesser quality worth it ?
To each there own and hope our view pount both sides help you pick a good option for you .
Looks like there's over 600 2-post 10k+ lifts on the ALI certification list:
https://www.autolift.org/ali-directory-of-certified-car-lifts/search-certified-car-lifts/?productCat=2-post-surface-mounted-lifts&manufac=All&model=&rate_value=%3E&productbrand=All&rateload=9999&searchsubmit=Search
It could take a while to compare them all. I do see some Aplus, Atlas, and Tuxedo stuff in there, though not the 11K bi-symmetric one I was interested in.
https://www.autolift.org/ali-directory-of-certified-car-lifts/search-certified-car-lifts/?productCat=2-post-surface-mounted-lifts&manufac=All&model=&rate_value=%3E&productbrand=All&rateload=9999&searchsubmit=Search
It could take a while to compare them all. I do see some Aplus, Atlas, and Tuxedo stuff in there, though not the 11K bi-symmetric one I was interested in.
If I can fork out an extra $500 for a certified, "reputable" Chinese lift, I think that could be worth it for the peace of mind. The difference between $2500 and $3000 just isn't that bad. I don't think I could justify forking out $6k for a Rotary though. I guess I'd have to call that the happy medium.
It looks like APlus has a discount pickup location 4 hours from me in Tacoma. They must import them there. They don't say what the discount is, but I might look into that. I really wanted that extra space between columns and the bi-symmetric arms on that Tuxedo though. Hmm, this will be an excrutiating decision process that I'm sure to obsess over for weeks.
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sweetk30
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That happen cause they didnt set rear arms @ leaf spring eye . And these 88-98 style trucks have a design flaw @ the combo mount welded to the frame for rear cab mount and front box mount . There is a pocket that holds **** and rots the frame out . Then pick up a thin one this way and BAM folded up truck frame .
Wow, you'll never see that happening in Oregon.Challenger 10000 lb. Asymmetric arms 2500 used. Oh yea be careful
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Good to see the lift arms didn't flinch with that shifting load.
Cairo94507
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I have had 2 BendPak lifts and love them. The first was a 4-post and then in my current home I installed an in-ground mid-rise scissor lift. BendPak was wonderful to work with both times. My wife and I are presently looking for another home on 3-5 acres so I can build a nice 60X35 shop and I would likely install a 2-post and a mid-rise in that shop - I would do BendPak for both. And, no, I do not work for BendPak. Just a very satisfied customer.
It was paper thin in that area. I could/should have used farther back pick points but would have failed eventually anyway possibly on the road.
Honestly, it's a huge blessing that it happened on the lift, assuming no one got squashed. Better there than 60 mph somewhere on the road!
Challenger 10000 lb. Asymmetric arms 2500 used. Oh yea be careful
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Holy balls!
Buy the best, see if you can find a used Mohawk. Warranty to first owner is 25 yrs. . No hoses, no cables, no Chinese, total 3/4" forklift U-channel and massive 20 x 30" base plates.Never buy a lift that is not ALI certified It's your life.
Watch Youtube vids on the Mohawks.
Watch Youtube vids on the Mohawks.