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Moparman

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I ordered a lift from Americn lifts on Friday. I get an e-mail today with the following:



"When your order arrives, please be prepared to unload it with the aid of a fork lift, a wrecker, or a roll back truck. You can also remove the lift by taking the package apart and removing the parts piece by piece. This method will require 2 to 3 people."

OK, I cannot be home when it comes, my wife will be home. She cannot take the parts off of the truck, nor do we own a fork lift, roll back or wrecker.

This is nuts.
 
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mikeyr

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yup...same with me when I talked to several lift manufacturers.

I went with one that brought it up in advance rather then after I asked but its pretty common I think. Look to see if they can deliver it to some truck facility where they can load it onto your trailer, that is what I did and it was a GREAT way to get it, I was able to back my trailer right into my garage and use my hoist to remove the lift that way.
 

6t7gto

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How about having it delivered to a local towing company, put it on one of the roll-backs, and have them deliver to your house.

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Piper

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another member had their lift delivered to a local lumber yard to be unloaded/loaded. I'd just suggest you pick someone/business who you see fairly regularly. That way they'll be apt to do you a favor, although I'd be expecting to pay for this for sure.

Piper
 

1fastvx

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The unit is heavy. How else did you expect it to come? I don't mean that in a bad way, i am just curious?

John


I ordered a lift from Americn lifts on Friday. I get an e-mail today with the following:



"When your order arrives, please be prepared to unload it with the aid of a fork lift, a wrecker, or a roll back truck. You can also remove the lift by taking the package apart and removing the parts piece by piece. This method will require 2 to 3 people."

OK, I cannot be home when it comes, my wife will be home. She cannot take the parts off of the truck, nor do we own a fork lift, roll back or wrecker.

This is nuts.
 

jimval

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This is how I got two lifts home at once........
 

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Ign

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This is standard practice.

Doesn't necessarily have to be a forklift... if you've got a friend w a tractor this may work, too.
 
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Moparman

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I have none of the aforementioned equipment. I jsut canceled the order. Not worth the trouble. If I am paying $375 for shipping, I want the damn thing unloaded in front of my garage. I am not paying a second shipping bill, from a towing company or anyone to get it from a terminal to my home. Nearedt terminal to me is 35 miles away.
 

SteveU

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I would be looking to have mine delivered & installed at the same time, now to locate someone who does that.
 

cobrabob

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Two people can unload it (take a day off work). Before I knew how to get the posts in the air I called these guys: Northcoast Equipment Specialists 440-826-1120. They do new and used equipment install and service (at least in NE Ohio). They may be able to connect you w/someone in your area.
 
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Moparman

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Cn't take any more days off from work for now. Just took a few days off because my mom is in the hospital. I would live to find and installer, but the company does not know of any.
 

Junkman

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Possibly if you post the town where you live, you might be able to get some help from someone on this website. I know that if someone near me needed help with a lift install, I would be glad to come over and give them a hand. I am certain from past experiance that others on the board would be willing to help. I got a engine from Ohio to New Jersey with the help of someone on the website. Another friend picked it up in NJ and brought it to MA. I still haven't picked it up from him, since I have no place to store it till warm weather. Thats what friends are for.
 

PxTx

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I sell lifts in the Philly area, handle and install our own as well as the popular hobbiest competitors like Complete, GS, Backyard Buddy and such. Buying the lift is the easy part. Where are you located? Which one id you buy again?
 
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Moparman

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I live in Jonas, PA in the western Poconos. The nearest ZIP is 18210 Albrightsville. The lift is a 7000 lb four post lift from American Storage Lifts.
 

PxTx

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What freight terminal is it comming out of? You've got the FedEx terminal near 380&940. Even closer you could flip the guys at Stauffer Concrete to unload it and then bring it home from there. I have to admit, the shipping charge form ASL is very reasonable and expecting the truck to drop it off at the front of your garage door is a little unrealistic for that price.

They can be tought to handle if you're new at it. After handeling a couple hundred, you'll be able to easily throw them up in parking lots for races, as seen here:
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BEECHFRONT

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go rent a uhaul car trailer for the day at end of week for 50 buks pick it up at freight company etc... and unload it on saturday and take the uhaul back
 

sneezer41

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I have to say, you are being a little unreasonable Moparman, although many places show a charge for tailgate delivery, and I would assume you could pay off

the trucking company to do such a thing.

It isn't like UPS, most people buy one or two lifts in a lifetime, so I would think about how to get the job done.

Perhaps because I have a dock and deal with half a dozen freight deliveries a month i am more in tune with this

Even with a dock, the driver was like 'it's a lift!'
 

carguy123

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I don't think he's being unreasonable at all. The company wants to sell a lift, he wants to buy. They need him more than he needs them.

Obviously not ever lift goes to a business. If they want to sell lifts to the general public then they need to find a way to accomodate him.

I have bought a great number of larger items from various companies and have only had to go pick something up only one time and that was due mostly to my scheduling issues.
 

Vicegrip

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Flat bed tow truck. Hire a tow truck guy for a flat fee to get it and slide it on the ground in front of your garage. Or have him meet the truck in front of your house and slide it from the truck to the bed then to the ground.
 

colmiller

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Isnt it normal in the US for local delivery trucks to be fitted with Hyab or Palfinger type hydraulic cranes when delivering heavy equipment ?

No one in Australia would expect to deliver a couple of tons of equipment without a crane to lift it off the truck with !

Damit the customer is always right in this sort of situation.
 

sneezer41

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It is normal if you PAY for it. Freight companies are designed to deliver to and from businesses with loading docks. Most of these guys have union contracts that say they have to bring it to the end of the truck and that is it. Hell "FOB" means freight on board, and is not an accidental term, it means they quite specifically do not have to unload it.

My whole point is that the lift company will dock him for the shipping and maybe a return fee, so what are you going to save?

Yes, the lift company should have set up the shipping much more carefully, I have a dock, but even the crooks asked.
 

ovilla

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Please don't order a different lift simply because they are going to somehow accommodate shipping the unit right to your door. You WILL be paying to get it shipped either way (regardless of who you buy it from). Honestly though, getting the unit home from the terminal or wherever is the easy part. What are your plans for assembling it? It really sounds like you need to buy a lift from a company that will deliver and set it up for you. A friend of mine bought a Mohawk lift and simply wrote a check and put tape down on the floor to show the installer where he wanted it. He paid a lot but it is a really nice 2-post lift. Anyway, we should all be so lucky to have these kind of problems. Best of luck to you!
 

LVDell

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This is on the American Lifts website (and on every lift website I looked at when ordering mine). I understood that I would need to be able to unload it so I chose to have it delivered to a local commercial equipment company and they delivered and installed for me.

Here from the website:
Shipping Policy

We will always try to ship from the nearest location to lower your shipping costs. And we go to great lengths to ensure that you get the best freight rate from one of our several freight providers. If you have any specific questions about shipping procedures, or if you would like to receive an exact shipping quote, please contact us at 1-800-637-2884.

Note: American Automotive Equipment does NOT own or operate the trucks that ship our equipment.

The majority of our products are shipped by common carrier, in which case a forklift (or something similar) might be needed to unload the product. It is less expensive to have a product shipped either to a business address or trucking terminal. (rather than a residential address)

THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RESPONSIBLE FOR UNLOADING THE PRODUCT FROM THE TRUCK

The customer is always responsible for providing the necessary offloading equipment, unless the lift is picked up at a trucking terminal. If a product is picked up at a terminal, the terminal staff will be able to load the equipment on your trailer or truck. If you would like to locate a terminal in your area, or if you would like a shipping quote, please contact us
 

mike944

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Isnt it normal in the US for local delivery trucks to be fitted with Hyab or Palfinger type hydraulic cranes when delivering heavy equipment ?

No one in Australia would expect to deliver a couple of tons of equipment without a crane to lift it off the truck with !.......

That's very interesting to hear the customs around the world. As others have said, In the US, it's standard practice that the reciever is responsible for unloading the freight. (except in certain circumstances) Usually, that means you need a loading dock, and pallet jack, or forklift, etc... If you choose to dissasemble the package and remove it from the truck piece-by-piece with a few friends as someone mentioned, the driver is going to be rather ticked-off, and you may find an extra charge on your freight bill, unless you complete it within 1/2 hour, which is a standard allowable removal time. Time is money, and the driver is expected to make a certain number of deliveries in a day, and be at certain places at certain times. The driver is not required nor expected to help unload. If they're nice, and maybe are interested in cars or something, they might be inclined to help or bend the rules regarding unloading time, but don't expect them to.

In the US, commercial truck deliveries are mostly to businesses with loading docks. Around here, virtually all businesses that recieve deliveries larger than UPS/Fed-Ex/DHL sized packages are pretty much expected to have a loading dock available to them. A commercial truck delivery to a home address is fairly rare, as most people don't need to recieve anything that heavy at a residence. Many freight companies do have a "home-delivery" service, in which case the freight is transfered to a smaller truck, with a lift-gate, but be prepared to pay extra for this service. Again, this is a "non-standard" delivery. Standard deliveries are dock-to-dock.

The only "normal" exceptions to the dock-to-dock rule are companies that specalize in local delivery to residences, like lumberyards, and such. They either come with a built-in crane on the truck, or a portable forklift. THis is really for local deliveries though, the long-haul trucks don't carry this equipment. The trucks don't want to carry the weight of loading/unloading equipment across the country, because that means less capacity is available for paying cargo. Besides, as per local custom, their customers can all handle loading/unloading, so they have little incentive to accomidate the unusual situation.

I have no idea how far the shipment was going, but that price for shipping an item that heavy and large sounds quite reasonable. At that price, the trucking company is dealing in volume. They're definitely not going to do anything out-of-the-ordinary for that price.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not defending the lift sales company. If they expect to regularly sell to the general public, they really should have made standard freight delivery practice clear to you, and asked you if it was going to a residence. If you said yes, they should have reccomended a delivery company that offered lift-gate service to your area.
 

Beegs

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I have none of the aforementioned equipment. I jsut canceled the order. Not worth the trouble. If I am paying $375 for shipping, I want the damn thing unloaded in front of my garage. I am not paying a second shipping bill, from a towing company or anyone to get it from a terminal to my home. Nearedt terminal to me is 35 miles away.

I'm guessing you are a young pup....as in: a little wet behind the ears.

People here are giving you some great advice. Listen and learn. :beer:
 

Jononon

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That's very interesting to hear the customs around the world. As others have said, In the US, it's standard practice that the reciever is responsible for unloading the freight.

Rest of World points and laughs.

He said, unhelpfully :pimpflash
 

The Alchemist

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I plan on renting a uhaul trailor and picking up my lift from Delaware. I've got a couple car buddies willing to make a Saturday out of coming over and helping to unload it and set it up. It's going to be a four post, so the heaviest part is the runway with the cylinder in it and the company told me it weighs roughly 400lbs. Not too bad for four guys to move and set in place.
 
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