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Nice little machine! 👍

You will want to get some weight on the back of the Kuboter if you want to move anything decent with the forks. I have a big gannon box that I leave on the back all the time. Does the job most of time, but I've still had mine tires up. The box would be good for snow removal too if you just want to drive in reverse haha. I've thought about adding tire ballast.

 
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Nice little machine! 👍

You will want to get some weight on the back of the Kuboter if you want to move anything decent with the forks. I have a big gannon box that I leave on the back all the time. Does the job most of time, but I've still had mine tires up. The box would be good for snow removal too if you just want to drive in reverse haha. I've thought about adding tire ballast.

I did have the tires filled before I picked it up. Not sure what they used. It works great, already inadvertently side hilled in a way that should have caused me problems. It clearly works.

I don’t have any rear mount implements yet but it does make sense that they’d serve well as rear ballast. Good thinking.

Since you have the cab, definitely get the front mount snowblower. My parents have it on their B3350 (old version of the LX) and it works great!
I want a blower but some I’ve talked to here in Denver swear that it doesn’t snow enough to justify it (the storage, the cost, etc). I was thinking for my driveway a plow with tilt control might be better…still contemplating tho
 

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If you have a loader, a pusher and the bucket should be more than necessary for snow removal. Blowers do well when you have nowhere else to push snow, but loaders work for that too.
 

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Matt, I had wondered where you've been lately as I haven't seen you active on the forum. I also must have missed this thread starting last week. Now I can see you've been busy house hunting.

I remember 6+ years ago when we bought our house and started posting the shop build that you mentioned you would like to move but hadn't been able to find "the one" you wanted.

I hope this is "the one" as it sure looks nice and the view is amazing. Do you think this will be yours and your wife's forever home?

I'm glad you decided to finish out the garage and shop because from my experience watching others, if they don't finish them before moving tools and equipment in, there is a very high chance that they never will get finished out inside.

Looking forward to seeing the new place come to fruition with all of your tools and equipment moved in and organized. It's definitely a journey.
 
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ItIf you have a loader, a pusher and the bucket should be more than necessary for snow removal. Blowers do well when you have nowhere else to push snow, but loaders work for that too.
That’s what I’ve been reading. Around here we get about 4-6 major enough falls to justify a blower maybe. The lot is small enough that I could probably just use the bucket as a pusher too…just increases the amount of cleanup passes I’d need to do.

I remember 6+ years ago when we bought our house and started posting the shop build that you mentioned you would like to move but hadn't been able to find "the one" you wanted.

I hope this is "the one" as it sure looks nice and the view is amazing. Do you think this will be yours and your wife's forever home?

I'm glad you decided to finish out the garage and shop because from my experience watching others, if they don't finish them before moving tools and equipment in, there is a very high chance that they never will get finished out inside.

Looking forward to seeing the new place come to fruition with all of your tools and equipment moved in and organized. It's definitely a journey.
Your memory serves you well. I’ve hunting hard for about a year. My inactivity has largely been due to the lack of space in the shop. Quarters were so tight I couldn’t move around without tripping over something or knocking something over. It got to the point where shop time wasn’t fun. I still did it but memorizing it just reminded me of how much it *****. It’s all my fault tho, I overran the space, it was my doing.

This is THE one. Last who-rah until I’m an old(er) fart. Ranch and laundry room off of the master… 😂

Yes, finishing the garage before moving in was really important to me on this one. I made the musket of not doing so twice now and swore I’d slow down and do it right. Last step is plumbing in electrical and water…
Right, but for the couple-few times a year it happens, in a personal property situation, the speed difference here is a minor point.
I could live with a bucket alone. Beats the **** out of shoveling or a snow blower. Having an enclosure and heat will make just about anything seem better.
 
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Got out and mowed with the tractor for the first time today. I was so excited to sit back and enjoy A/C and tunes.

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What I didn’t account for was how the sun thru the cab windows would heat me up and how bumpy the turf was due to erosion. This tractor ain’t got a soft suspension like my Jeeps, it’s got serious overloads designed to support implements and a full load…duh.

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Trying to give y-all some perspective - the lot isn’t flat. The house sits up a bit overlooking the property.

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The lower section of the lot is flat but getting to it is slightly downhill. In the picture above I’m standing at the furthest most stake on the property looking back at the house. Here’s the reverse view…back port looking down at the stake.

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The mow is as you would expect, there were dozens of rocks and mounds that wreak havoc on more blades. I couldn’t help from running over a few but I did manage to catch a bunch first. Some are big enough to add as decorative landscape in the front.

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There were sections where I had to use the bucket to remove left overs from the construction such as concrete, wood, and left-over landscape rocks. Having a bucket made it a snap.

All in all it took about 3 hours to get it all done. Tractor overheated once due to dust from cutting the grass building up and blocking the grill. After learning that was something to worry about, I prevented it by checking in on it every so often.

Back to lesson 1 - AC was awesome but the sun beating down on me thru the cab glass, jumping in and out to pick up errant stones, rocks, and debris nearly negates the AC. Didn’t see that coming. By the end of 3 hours I was beat…thrown around by stiff springs and hot/sweaty from the sun beating on me. Still had a blast.
 

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Meet the neighbor kids who need to make some money...introduce them to the game of "pick up rocks and toss into bucket"...repeat ad nauseum as they will pop up for awhile. I spent many days growing up in fields playing that and it's close cousin..."pick up sticks"

Progress looks great...and well done on getting the infrastructure in place before moving in....biggest regret I have right now on mine is moving in prematurely and not doing the floor and painting the ceiling beforehand.
 

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What a great place you picked up. Looks like you’ve got your work cut out for ya but the bright side is it’ll be your own when it’s finished up. And judging from what you’ve already accomplished in short order, it’s going to be spectacular.
 
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I upgraded all the lights on mine to LEDs floods with side throw. They cast a ridiculous wide beam. I have them front and rear and can easy see 360dg no problem.

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Those are sweet. Who makes em, where did you get em? I have some left over jeep stuff but none are side shooters like those. I do have them on my Jeep and they’re awesome. You’re right, that’s what I need.
What a great place you picked up. Looks like you’ve got your work cut out for ya but the bright side is it’ll be your own when it’s finished up. And judging from what you’ve already accomplished in short order, it’s going to be spectacular.
Thanks, we’re both really excited to get into the house permanently…and yes, I’m certain now there’s way more work on this setup than our previous house. I think it’ll be worth it.
 

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Those are sweet. Who makes em, where did you get em? I have some left over jeep stuff but none are side shooters like those. I do have them on my Jeep and they’re awesome. You’re right, that’s what I need.

They are these. "Cheap". But I'm actually super impressed with them. Nice aluminum housings. Actually built pretty well. I wired this pigtail on them so that they plug right into the factory wiring. So nothing on the tractor side was touched at all.

Not sure what harness the Kubota runs, you might just need a different pigtail.

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Does this mean with the larger shop your powdercoat oven will get bigger?

On another note, did you finish your daughter’s jeep build? Was following and interested how it turned out compared to yours and your son’s?

Yes. The plan is to build something big enough for my biggest car parts I’d ever coat (except not things as big as frames). Big enough for a set of wheels. But not too big. Choosing to coat the floor came prevents me from building a an oven that sits directly on the floor so I’ll have to get a little creative with the design. I suspect I’ll keep it about 4’ x 4’ x 7’ or slightly smaller. I’ll also need a larger spray hood…so I need to plan for that space-wise as well.
 
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Today was a long day. Big step Accomplished tho - moved the machines. I ended up being able to find the guy who moved me into this house who specializes in home shops (read: residential lower ceilings and garage doors). He has some custom gear he made which he wasn’t excited about me taking pictures of so you’ll just she to take my word for it….it works. Here’s the “gizmo” loading my 4500 lb lath onto his trailer.

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And placed in the new shop. I assure you it makes no sense where it’s placed now, but it’ll make sense later. I promise.

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We then tackled the chemical stripper, table saw, and the new compressor. none of these will stay here, this is just staging until I can figure out where they best fit.

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Last was the mill. About 9pm and we were all beat.

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But it’s now home.

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I’m doubting the placement just a little but am hoping my hours playing with shop layout in CAD are worth trusting.
 
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Today was a long day. Big step Accomplished tho - moved the machines. I ended up being able to find the guy who moved me into this house who specializes in home shops (read: residential lower ceilings and garage doors). He has some custom gear he made which he wasn’t excited about me taking pictures of so you’ll just she to take my word for it….it works. Here’s the “gizmo” loading my 4500 lb lath onto his trailer.

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And placed in the new shop. I assure you it makes no sense where it’s placed now, but it’ll make sense later. I promise.

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We then tackled the chemical stripper, table saw, and the new compressor. none of these will stay here, this is just staging until I can figure out where they best fit.

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Last was the mill. About 9pm and we were all beat.

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But it’s now home.

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I’m doubting the placement just a little but am hoping my hours playing with shop layout in CAD are worth trusting.
Is that a customized pallet jack being used to move the heavy iron? I’m very intrigued. Very curious what your plan is with the placement of the machines are you going to be building some sort of containment walls to contain the chips?
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The number 1 thing is change from my current setup to my next would be to place the mill in a location better suited to contain the chips. So curious to see what you come up with.
 
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Is that a customized pallet jack being used to move the heavy iron? I’m very intrigued. Very curious what your plan is with the placement of the machines are you going to be building some sort of containment walls to contain the chips?
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The number 1 thing is change from my current setup to my next would be to place the mill in a location better suited to contain the chips. So curious to see what you come up with.

Wow, you have a very creative use of space in your shop. How in the world do you keep your floors so clean with those mats?

He referres to his machine as a mill-ipede. It has the overall shape and function of a pallet Jack but it’s designed somewhat differently. Best way I can describe it is the legs/forks gave lips on the that go under the base of the machine which lifts it as then Jack goes up.

Chip containment was a project that I started in my old thread but hadn’t finished. Finishing it will be one of my first projects in the new shop.
 

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I’m sure it’s fine, but that trailer doesn’t look like it could hold 5k of weight. Sounds like the guy is good at this tho’. Looking forward to seeing the next steps!
 
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I’m sure it’s fine, but that trailer doesn’t look like it could hold 5k of weight. Sounds like the guy is good at this tho’. Looking forward to seeing the next steps!
If he hadn’t moved the same lathe before I would have thought his setup was sketchy. If it were me, I’d have a dual axle bare min. His steel deck thou was crazy cool. He had built into it strap downs over the full length of the deck and the deck tilts too. Most importantly, the machines made it A to B.
 
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Forgot to share an aftermath picture from what’s been moved to the new house so far - bare shelves and large empty spaces where machines and stuff used to be.

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I’m starting to think about how in the hell I’m going to layout the new garage. My typical reaction to a situation like this is to build custom shelving and tailer it to the space but I have so much shelving already built it seems not only incredible wasteful but also it might take a significant amount of time. Need to keep thinking about it but kinda have to hurry.
 
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I'm very interested in how you keep your shop so clean, and also how you manage metal and wood in the same space. I'm in that boat and have to keep the wood tools almost unused to prevent problems with the metal machinery.
I’m curious as well, it’s a challenge. What I did is isolate machining to the back of the tandem and only do one or the other (metal or wood) at a time in the main 2-car using hood dust collection and cleaning up frequently. I did have to clean up the (metal) machines every so often but it wasn’t bad.
 

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I'm very interested in how you keep your shop so clean, and also how you manage metal and wood in the same space. I'm in that boat and have to keep the wood tools almost unused to prevent problems with the metal machinery.

I’m curious as well, it’s a challenge. What I did is isolate machining to the back of the tandem and only do one or the other (metal or wood) at a time in the main 2-car using hood dust collection and cleaning up frequently. I did have to clean up the (metal) machines every so often but it wasn’t bad.


What is this "wood" that you speak of? I'm not familiar. :cool:
 

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Wow, you have a very creative use of space in your shop. How in the world do you keep your floors so clean with those mats?

He referres to his machine as a mill-ipede. It has the overall shape and function of a pallet Jack but it’s designed somewhat differently. Best way I can describe it is the legs/forks gave lips on the that go under the base of the machine which lifts it as then Jack goes up.

Chip containment was a project that I started in my old thread but hadn’t finished. Finishing it will be one of my first projects in the new shop.
That sounds like an interesting and efficient way of moving the machines. I put custom skates / leveling feet on my Monarch 10ee, and really wish I would have done it with the Bridgeport. Whenever I move into my next shop, ill rent a forklift, and build a custom base of the mill then.
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Ive been using these magnetic plexiglass chip shields with the mill. They do a great job of containing the majority of the chips to the machine, as most chips get thrown in one or two directions depending on what direction you are cutting. I also keep one of my Festool Dust extractors close by and am pretty religious about cleaning as I go. At some point it's on my list to create a bracket to hold the dust extractor nozzle in place while I am machining.

The rubber matts then trap whatever chips gets by where they fall, so it's just a matter of vacuuming over them when done. Twice a year I pull all of the matts, sweep out the garage and pressure wash the matts in the driveway.
I'm very interested in how you keep your shop so clean, and also how you manage metal and wood in the same space. I'm in that boat and have to keep the wood tools almost unused to prevent problems with the metal machinery.
All of my wood tools are festool, so they always get sued with one of my dust extractors. IT does a really good job of keeping the vast majority of the dust collected. The really big dust producer is my cabinet saw / router table combo. I have a small dust collector on them thats not very adequate. Since it is on large castors, I just wheel it out into the driveway when I use it and let my neighbors deal with the wood dust.
I’m curious as well, it’s a challenge. What I did is isolate machining to the back of the tandem and only do one or the other (metal or wood) at a time in the main 2-car using hood dust collection and cleaning up frequently. I did have to clean up the (metal) machines every so often but it wasn’t bad.
I would ideally have put the mill in the back corner of the garage along with the lathe, however I had the garage pretty well built out by the time I picked both of the metal working machines up, so need to live with them where they are at until I move at some point in the future. Ideally on my next shop setup, I would build a covered shed area next to it, and keep the grinders / Baldour buffer there as they really make the most mess.

Really curious to see how you ended up setting up the shop to contain the chips, etc.
 
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Still a nice view Matt, even with the fog and inclement weather.
Agreed. I’m embarrassed to say I’ve never noticed Colorado’s skyline and skies before and I’ve been here nearly my whole life. I know it’s ridiculous…but the clouds in every picture are amazing and many times better live. I’m now realizing that living in dense(r) neighborhoods were robbing me of an appreciation of my natural surroundings.

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Made a major push over the last few days to get cabinets moved to the new shop.

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It felt like a never ending process - take ‘em down, load the truck, unload the truck, make a pile…(sigh). I’m freakin exhausted.

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I was able to capture Andrew taking a moment to take the new shop and it’s first mess in.

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The fantastic capstone on the series of days was the move of Andrews pride and joy into its new spot. At this point it’s real. 😎

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Agreed. I’m embarrassed to say I’ve never noticed Colorado’s skyline and skies before and I’ve been here nearly my whole life. I know it’s ridiculous…but the clouds in every picture are amazing and many times better live. I’m now realizing that living in dense(r) neighborhoods were robbing me of an appreciation of my natural surroundings.

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I bet Mike Z was looking at the size of that yard and calculating in his head the time to mow and edge....!!
 
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