"Limitless Garage" 21'x25' Detached

[BBSkylark]

Little update on what has been going on, a couple of things have come home with me over the past week or so.

Got this Lista from my grandfathers machine shop collection. My Dad was re-arranging some tools and knew that I always wanted one of the boxes so he decided that he could part with this one. It was used in his drafting room to house his plans/supplies. I plan to modify my workbench so it will slide right in underneath.

Next this Parker Vise, its a 106-5 and man it weighs a good amount. This will make its way onto my welding bench once I find a nice steel top to finish it off.

Other than that, not much garage build going on but still keeping myself occupied with projects inside.

 

[BBSkylark]

I haven't updated this thread in a little while but have been able to work on some projects and plug away at the Garage build.

I modified my workbench to incorporate the Lista cabinet.

Finally finished up my wiring for the garage (lots of circuits) and Cat5 for future controls.

Then built my wife some coffee tables for the basement out of cherry and black iron pipe.

So as of last night I am ready to start insulating and putting up drywall. There are a couple little nuances I have to work around on the back wall before sealing it up but I cant wait to reach this milestone.

As for the cars, the Buick is still in Paint Jail and not really being worked on but that just gives me a little extra time to finish up the shop before it comes home for final assembly.

 

[BBSkylark]

Finally getting somewhere... Man this pink stuff is not fun to work with.

 

[BBSkylark]

Took a few days off work last week to keep the progress happening.

First my awesome wife bought me this for my B-day (RapidAir Maxline 1/2" kit). I roughed all the lines inside the walls before insulating. I placed three drop's plus one additional off the compressor.

Then I emptied all my cabinets took everything off the walls and moved it to the center of the garage to push on finishing the insulation and vapor barrier. Got it all finished in time for my yearly fishing trip.

Every time I see the mess a nervous twitch comes on but I smile that the electrical chapter and itchy pink chapter is closed. Now on to drywall!

 

[BBSkylark]

A quick question for everyone. What do you suggest filling the foundation block courses with? Concrete? Grout? Hydraulic Waterstop? Something else?

As you can see in the picture above the only block courses that have been filled with concrete are the ones that hold the lags for the wall footer.

Thanks

 

[burger]

Garage looks great, as do your house projects! I like the creativity and craftsmanship on the black iron tables.

Can you tell me what procedure you used to clean the cabinet in post #37? I own a similar metal cabinet that's grungy with light surface rust. Before hanging it in my new garage, I'd like to clean it up.


Thanks,
Ed

 

[BBSkylark]

Garage looks great, as do your house projects! I like the creativity and craftsmanship on the black iron tables.

Can you tell me what procedure you used to clean the cabinet in post #37? I own a similar metal cabinet that's grungy with light surface rust. Before hanging it in my new garage, I'd like to clean it up.


Thanks,
Ed

Hi Ed,

Thanks for the kind words. For the cabinet cleaning I actually used a pressure washer with a lower pressure nozzle, dawn dish detergent (original blend) and some scotch brite scouring pads. I used the pads as little as possible to avoid taking off the deteriorating paint finish. Make sure there is ample soap on the pads otherwise you will be taking some paint along.

Good luck with it and post some pics when your done!

 

[BBSkylark]

So another big feat this weekend was fitting my car back in the garage by getting the drywall off the floor. It really makes the space look a lot brighter already! Hopefully I can make some time to start the mud and tape work.

 

[Trey T]

nice job on the insulation. Why did you choose that insulation type over the paperback?

 

[BBSkylark]

Thank you for the kind words Trey. Where I live they do not sell the paper back insulation. I don't know if its a Canadian thing or just my specific location.

 

[Mr. Roboto]

Nice progress! Are you going to keep the roof exposed? Or are you going to be hanging rock there as well?

 

[BBSkylark]

Thanks! I will be doing a G-Rib profile white tin ceiling with as much of a storage attic as possible after I finish the walls. Originally it was going to be rock but as with all my projects, scope change.

 

[dubber]

REally like those tables that you build. Been thinking about taking on one of those projects at some point. I've seen some nice shelving units using the piping.

 

[Mr. Roboto]

Thanks! I will be doing a G-Rib profile white tin ceiling with as much of a storage attic as possible after I finish the walls. Originally it was going to be rock but as with all my projects, scope change.

Nice, that should go up quick, and look great! I went back and fourth on doing something similar in my garage. Are you going to be insulating the attic space? If so, I'm curious as to what your solution will be for storage. The bottom chords of most of your trusses will probably disappear into the insulation since they're only 4" (as are mine).

 

[BBSkylark]

REally like those tables that you build. Been thinking about taking on one of those projects at some point. I've seen some nice shelving units using the piping.

Thanks Dubber, I really like the rustic meets industrial revolution look.

Nice, that should go up quick, and look great! I went back and fourth on doing something similar in my garage. Are you going to be insulating the attic space? If so, I'm curious as to what your solution will be for storage. The bottom chords of most of your trusses will probably disappear into the insulation since they're only 4" (as are mine).

The attic space itself will not be insulated. I will be insulating the ceiling with bats (R40) where my attic floor will be. My plan is to double up the 2x4's of the ceiling so I can fit the R40 in there. This is all pending how much height I can get to store things, it is pretty tight up there. The remainder of the ceiling I will be blowing in insulation hopefully between the R40-R60 range.

These cooler nights and darker mornings have me going about getting everything buttoned up and insulated.

 

[BBSkylark]

So a question for all you painters out there.

Just doing my mud and tape thing on the walls and started to really think what to use for a good primer. My paint plans are a two tone with a stripe (surprise surprise). I would like to keep the upper tone white. Do you think the primer will suffice for the painted surface as well or should I put a white paint over top of the primer?

So,

1) What primer should I use for the walls?
2) Because the upper portion of the walls are going to be white should I just prime it and call it a day or use a white paint over top?

Thanks,

 

[Bunk]

I'm not a pro painter by any means, not even semi pro, but..
1) Kilz makes some great primers.

2) Definitely do not just leave the upper portion primer. I used a satin EXTERIOR paint actually on my walls (after researching here). If you leave it primer, it'll pick up dirt and not have the durability that a topcoat would have.

Both those steps give you a decent vapor barrier on your walls to boot.

 

[BBSkylark]

Good to know, thanks a bunch Bunk.

 

[sean Buick 76]

Keep up the great work!

 

[BBSkylark]

Keep up the great work!

Thanks Sean,

Your car is rocking , when my garage is done I am going to really start pressing the shop to finish up the body work.

Question for anyone who has primed fresh drywall in a garage. What primer did you use? There are so many different types I really don't know where to start.

PVA?
Acrylic?
High Build?
All Purpose?
...Other?

I managed to tape all my sheet rock and get the first coat done on the weekend. Second coat tonight!

 

[BBSkylark]

I ended up buying PVA primer and just finished priming the walls. I must say, to the guys that do drywall day in and day out

I am very pleased with how well the walls came out for my first time. There is a couple of spots where I need to fill in some knife scrape marks but overall it came out great.

Paint is all purchased and ready to go. I went for some Frog tape to tape my transition edge, any tips on this are appreciated!

Anyone know of a good source for a 1/2" Red Pinstripe? Vinyl? I am dabbling with the idea of using this for that portion of my stripe.

 

[sean Buick 76]

Looking good!

 

[BBSkylark]

Looking good!

Thanks Sean,

Little bit of an update. I just finished painting the walls. I must say Frog tape works amazing to cut lines on the wall. I have a little bit up my sleeve for the stripe, it will be vinyl and has been ordered.

 

[nsogiba]

looks great! what color is the vinyl stripe?

 

[BBSkylark]

looks great! what color is the vinyl stripe?

Thanks, it will be a 5 stage stripe of sort. Complicated but worth it in the end. It will involve Red, Black and the white wall colour. The vinyl arrived, however wont be installed until a little bit down the road. Pushing to seal up the ceiling before the cold comes.

 

[craft]

I'm loving the white and gray, can't wait to see this stripe. I'm leaning toward a similar setup. Keep the images coming.

 

[jtny]

Awesome progress already, but I can't wait to see how your garage turns out. This has been a great inspiration for my small 20x20 detached garage (basically like yours but without the side door entry part).

Keep up the great work!

 

[BBSkylark]

Thanks, hopefully some more progress pics will come this Monday. I just finished grouting the foundation blocks and picking up insulation for the ceiling. It was in the 40's this morning so need to get this thing wrapped up!

 

[BBSkylark]

Here are some pics that have been on my phone for a little while.

As I mentioned earlier I finished grouting the block wall cavities. My ceiling arrived last week which will be installed shortly.

The vapour barrier and insulation is 90% complete on my ceiling, I went with doubling up R22 batt's of insulation giving me R44 to keep me toasty in the winter.

Before starting on the ceiling I did some air exchange calculations and installed the required roof vents and sofit vents with interior runners where the sofit's are perforated.

 

[jesse72]

Your garage is coming along very nicely! That Lista looks great under the bench too

 

[Mr. Roboto]

Looking good! Can't quite tell from the pictures, did you run those 2 layers of batts in opposing directions? or are they all running the same way?

 

[BBSkylark]

Thanks guy's, I alternated directions with the insulation batts (turned the upper ones 90 degrees from the lower ones).

 

[Mr. Roboto]

Thanks guy's, I alternated directions with the insulation batts (turned the upper ones 90 degrees from the lower ones).

Perfect

 

[AldeanFan]

Great looking garage,
I'm planning to paint mine the same colour scheme once i get some other projects out of the way,

I see you're in Niagara, I'm outside Virgil.

 

[BBSkylark]

Great looking garage,
I'm planning to paint mine the same colour scheme once i get some other projects out of the way,

I see you're in Niagara, I'm outside Virgil.

Sounds like you have good taste in where you live and music.... I'm around the corner from you in Virgil!

 

[AldeanFan]

The whole internet and i find one of my neighbours!

Get that Buick together, cruising season is only 6 months away

 

[BBSkylark]

So my ceiling started to go up this weekend. Talk about an awkward job, even with two people. I have about 2/3 of it done, 6 sheets to go!

I need advice on what to do about the lap edge for the panels. There is a decent size gap because they fall between two roof stringers. What do you guys think?

- Caulk the seam?
- PL Construction Adhesive inside and press together
- Some how sheet metal screw them together (don't really like this idea)

Also where the sheets overlap becuase my building is not 100% square the lap edge does not match 100%. Any thoughts on what to do with this.

(Sorry about the junky phone pics).

 

[Mr. Roboto]

Do you have access to the space above the seam anymore? If so, I think I would lay a 1x3 furring strip across the seam, and run a line of the same screws you're using to fasten the ceiling to the trusses along the seam up through the metal and into the 1x3. Should pull it together nicely, and will just blend in with all the other rows of hardware you already have going on.

EDIT....sorry, I just remembered you've already insulated the space above the panels. Perhaps there will be enough holding power if you just screw the seams without the strapping. Try it on 2 scrap pieces. Just have to be careful not to over tighten and strip it out.

 

[BBSkylark]

Do you have access to the space above the seam anymore? If so, I think I would lay a 1x3 furring strip across the seam, and run a line of the same screws you're using to fasten the ceiling to the trusses along the seam up through the metal and into the 1x3. Should pull it together nicely, and will just blend in with all the other rows of hardware you already have going on.

EDIT....sorry, I just remembered you've already insulated the space above the panels. Perhaps there will be enough holding power if you just screw the seams without the strapping. Try it on 2 scrap pieces. Just have to be careful not to over tighten and strip it out.

Looks like I will be going the sheet metal screw route. I checked out place up north to see how the ceiling in the shop was done and that is exactly what they did. Hopefully it will blend enough that it wont be noticeable.

In other news, this followed me home today (yesterday)!

This is the first machine my grandfather started his mould making business with. (I haven't shared any pictures of our machine shop up North but will once I have time to document everything.)

Cheers

 

[JohnnieMo]

Great looking build. I really like how the walls turned out. This has convinced me to stick with drywall for most of my walls.

The ceiling is something I have to ponder..... I don't love it or hate it. How is the difficulty compared to drywall? How is the price?

How did you send up filling the cement blocks? I would probably fill them with sand or expanding foam.

I can see why your ceiling was sagging. No trusses! Wow. Good thing you fixed it.

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